Rafa Benitez, Football Manager

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course he could end up at spurs pretty easily if capello goes. Him or woy.

Genuinely tough call imo, obv like woy more, and we've always worked better under a man manager than tactician imo.

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 11:45 (thirteen years ago) link

but it would be nice to see jenas and bentley get rafa'd

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 11:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Bentley's basically been Rafa'd anyway.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 11:47 (thirteen years ago) link

nobody does it better tho

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually being Harry'd = get dropped for a year and come back twice the player. Being Rafa'd = get dropped and never heard from again.

I hear Aquilani is currently running tings in the Juve midfield though.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 11:58 (thirteen years ago) link

all woys fault, that

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 12:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Would be happy with Rafa going back to Anfield and running a sweepstake on how quickly he can get Liverpool fans to turn against NESV for "not investing seriously".

Inspector Anthony Slade, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 12:11 (thirteen years ago) link

He'll probably use the same excuse when the Benitez children are vocally disappointed with their Christmas presents.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 12:18 (thirteen years ago) link

"I am fully focussed on buying you Kinectimals for the Xbox 360 and the Gossip Girl DVD box set for Christmas"

Inspector Anthony Slade, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 12:25 (thirteen years ago) link

"i asked for a playstation and i received a game gear. You will need to ask fr christmas why"

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 12:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Hahaha.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 12:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I love Rafa but I don't think I'd want him back. Not yet. The press would make his job impossible, there are still fans who don't like him, and this thread would be unbearable! He needs to take some time out, recharge his batteries, spend time with his family, and stay out of the spotlight for a while. I'd have loved him to have stayed at Inter and won everything, but he did get them playing better football than Mourinho did, and he gained the respect of the fans, who were singing for him to stay after the Club World Cup victory. General concensus is that he was right to challenge Moratti, but it probably wasn't the best time to do so.

The referee was perfect (Chris), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 12:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the greater part of tactical knowledge is being able to respond to developments in a game in progress and adjust what the team is doing accordingly. Stubborn managers frequently struggle in this respect and infuriate the fans with bizarrely timed substitutions and failure to adjust to glaring on-pitch failings.

This is why Mourinho wins, basically.

Jonathan Wilson says much the same about Harry Redknapp, http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2010/dec/01/the-question-harry-redknapp-tactically

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Chris, have you actually watched this Inter side? Because I have 3 times. Once was the 4-3 against Spurs where yes, they played some nice stuff (until he told Coutinho to cut it out). The other two times they looked like a nasty bunch who didn't know what they were doing and were less pleasing on the eye than Mourinho's.

irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Excellent article on 'Arry and Cloughie, that.

baubles to the wall (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

o lol

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link

o holy lol

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link

inter now denying he's been sacked

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

dude is like football schizophrenia, he makes crazy shit happen wherever

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

x-posts, yeah, i have been watching inter. fans and players seemed to be happy, eto'o said he prefers benitez's pressing game - it's no coincidence that he's already scored more goals than he managed in the whole of last season.

The referee was perfect (Chris), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link

cant believe he was complimentary about his current manager.

Inter have been a disaster under benitez, so far.

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

why is it so unbelievable that eto'o would credit benitez for encouraging the team to win the ball higher? given that other teams have strengthened more than inter, and that inter have had bad luck with injuries, i wouldn't say it's been a 'disaster'. unlucky, but far from a disaster. still have 2 games in hand.

The referee was perfect (Chris), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

all teams have bad luck with injuries. its not a good excuse anymore. last season inter had bigger injury problems imo (curse of their left backs, no stankovic, muntari or zanetti for long periods means at least 2 positions weren't covered for most of the season), didn't stop them then.

irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link

muntari is waste tbf

No Wicked Heart Shall Prosper.rar (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

ageing squad, hardly strengthened in the summer. chelsea have had bad injuries and their form's been shocking.

The referee was perfect (Chris), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

defending benitez at inter is stupid

he's done some interesting stuff tactically but in terms of any aspect of management that involves considering players as ppl, he's an unmitigated disaster

No Wicked Heart Shall Prosper.rar (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

ageing squad, barely strengthened in summer, trouble with injuries.

Guess hodgson is doin pretty well so far all told.

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

defending benitez at inter is stupid... itt. tough crowd

abbott & coztello (cozen), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

1x champions league (& runner-up), UEFA cup, UEFA super-cup, world club cup (& runner-up), FA cup, italian super cup and 2x la liga and UEFA manager of the year

nuh bad for a high-functioning buffoon

abbott & coztello (cozen), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

it's extremely impressive for a high functioning buffoon, in fact. we've not disputed that.

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

defending benitez at inter is stupid... itt. tough crowd

― abbott & coztello (cozen), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 19:14 (52 minutes ago)

yeah cuz every1 else is totes chill about it

i've enjoyed watching inter this year cuz eto'o has been in form again and it's less dull than mourinho's inter, but taking a treble winning squad to this in under sixth months is srsly shit

then came 'four or five players'

his prior successes have no bearing on what a fucking disaster he's been at inter

No Wicked Heart Shall Prosper.rar (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry guys, i think i may have let my hatred of benitez blind me to the fact that he was good at valencia and won a cup with houllier's liverpool. mea maxima culpa innit

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

lol settle petal. I don't even have a strong view on it. afaic managing, like networking, is voodoo and the guy has won some in his time

so... if I have it right, houllier's getting some of the credit for rafa's champions league win but rafa's not getting any concession for mourinho's /exhaustion/ of his treble winners? ;)

abbott & coztello (cozen), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

has he actually been sacked btw? guardian still not updated their earlier report

abbott & coztello (cozen), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

as opposed to all those barca players exhausted after their (much more recent) world cup win but soldiering on anyway?

No Wicked Heart Shall Prosper.rar (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

it's up in the air, which is magnificent imo, just exceptional fuckery xp

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Moratti: "This situation is a bit tricky"
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MILAN - Massimo Moratti gave a brief interview to the journalists that were waiting for him outside the Saras offices in the centre of Milan.

Inter.it brings you the full comments of the Nerazzurri president:

Mr president, we were wondering who you were going to lunch with?

"Don't worry. I'm going home."

Therefore we shouldn't expect Benitez's sacking today?

"Nothing should be expected. I swear to you I have not had the means to speak to anyone."

Is it true Inter are working to rescind Benitez's contract?

"No. We are trying to understand some things. This situation is a bit tricky. What happened was quite surprising. It is clear therefore, that we are looking at it from every angle."

So today, Benitez is still the Inter coach?

"As long as he is there..."

No Wicked Heart Shall Prosper.rar (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

machines don't get tired

abbott & coztello (cozen), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

ok, houllier gets some credit for assembling a squad that benitez could win a cl with, something benitez never managed to build himself.

mourinho doesn't get any blame for leaving a team of pretty inarguable winners, rly

i dont think that's ridic inconsistent or anything

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

moratti sounds addled

No Wicked Heart Shall Prosper.rar (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

as I said I don't have a strong view. what did he ever do to you? or is it a principle thing

just can't ever imagine hating a manager so seemingly vociferously when he doesn't manage the club I follow but w/e

abbott & coztello (cozen), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

wikipedia still has him as their head coach so I'm taking that as definitive for the mo

abbott & coztello (cozen), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

there's a hitchcockian back story about what he did to dmac but we're yet to unearth the full grisly story

it's thought a gruff dutchman may have been involved too

No Wicked Heart Shall Prosper.rar (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

i was a pretty strong supporter when he joined liverpool, actually.

after about two years his nonsense decisions and pretty vituperative shifting of responsibility for them began to grind me down. after that, lfc/rafa supporting mates slowly turned me into the broken spitemonger u see before you.

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

is it cos he had a lower net spend (cumulative & average) while consistently out-performing spurs in the league throughout his 5 years

/flees thread

abbott & coztello (cozen), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

did xabi alonso actually leave because rafa alienated him (which is what my mate told me earlier)? I don't recall off-hand

abbott & coztello (cozen), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

gtfo giving houllier, or indeed anyone, credit for assembling that Liverpool squad

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

not rly a 'useful metric' when he's left them with a bloated squad full of shite that's amortised terribly, whereas for all his sins comlolli left the spurs squad in fairly fine fettle

No Wicked Heart Shall Prosper.rar (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

did xabi alonso actually leave because rafa alienated him (which is what my mate told me earlier)? I don't recall off-hand

― abbott & coztello (cozen), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 20:39 (1 minute ago)

yes

rafa tried to get barry instead, etc

No Wicked Heart Shall Prosper.rar (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Extra bonus points for mention of 'Net spend' or comparisons with Arsene Wenger.

― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Friday, July 9, 2010 2:27 PM (5 months ago)

^^^^^^

tbh

martin jol made me hate all underperforming yet sympathised millionaire managers. rafa became the next most appropriate target of my ire once that fat buffoon had awoken it

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link


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