i don't even know what that means -- not to mention that my tastes in rock & pop are not really abnormal by ilm standards (except for maybe extreme blink 182 stannery)
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 December 2010 04:43 (thirteen years ago) link
heard "No Such Thing" in the mall yesterday, that is a good-ass song
― some dude, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Thursday, 23 December 2010 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link
http://cdn.20minutos.es/img2/recortes/2011/10/06/34013-944-550.jpg
― markers, Friday, 16 August 2013 17:22 (ten years ago) link
glad "no such thing" won because if not that would've been stupid
― markers, Friday, 16 August 2013 17:23 (ten years ago) link
fathers be good to your markers, markers will love like you do
― some dude, Friday, 16 August 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link
i actually like "bigger than my body" a lot
― dyl, Friday, 16 August 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link
this guy can really shred!
― ( (brimstead), Friday, 16 August 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link
thought this revive was gonna be the album out next week with Frank Ocean and Katy Perry features and a Taylor Swift diss
― some dude, Friday, 16 August 2013 22:38 (ten years ago) link
wow that is a hideous sentence
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 16 August 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link
he moved to some ranch in montana and listened to the dead 24/7.
― ( (brimstead), Friday, 16 August 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18mkzdvkkinc8jpg/original.jpg
― markers, Sunday, 8 September 2013 06:49 (ten years ago) link
makes sense, he's kind of the Ben Affleck of music
new album is boring even by his standards
― suggest ban & threadban method man & redman (some dude), Sunday, 8 September 2013 16:34 (ten years ago) link
i wish i was paying attention to apple when he was doing shit w/ jobs during keynotes
― markers, Sunday, 8 September 2013 16:35 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MRDDJjTwTw
wow, kanye IS the new steve jobs, he knows john mayer too
― suggest ban & threadban method man & redman (some dude), Sunday, 8 September 2013 16:45 (ten years ago) link
http://cdn.cultofmac.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/761181fda92ac8f1225f7a1a29509c3d753cce2c.jpg
― markers, Sunday, 8 September 2013 16:51 (ten years ago) link
thread need more pictures of the modern day john mayer that gets to see katy perry naked
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/ac1394dbdcca6a36cbf486633b129cd813095ac3/r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2013/07/13/1373736450003-AP-People-John-Mayer-1307131332_4_3.jpg
http://www.billboard.com/files/styles/promo_650/public/media/john-mayer-press-2013-650-430.jpg
― suggest ban & threadban method man & redman (some dude), Sunday, 8 September 2013 16:56 (ten years ago) link
Craftsman, feh. I wouldn't sit in his chairs -- and he'd use that one as a sex metaphor.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2018 01:26 (five years ago) link
Oh please.
Sob Rock. July 16. pic.twitter.com/Hhn2sO9KRY— John Mayer (@JohnMayer) June 1, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 20:40 (two years ago) link
You want to play with yourself in a hotel room and cry, go right ahead.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 20:42 (two years ago) link
is there an album cover he's directly aping or is it just a general 80s AOR look?
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 20:43 (two years ago) link
Are we sure it's not "SOB rock"?
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 20:43 (two years ago) link
gottem
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 20:58 (two years ago) link
i think im gonna have to like this album
― Spottie, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link
i hate himi hate himi hate himi hate himi hate himi hate him i hate himi hate himi hate him
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 05:51 (two years ago) link
where is brad’s hot take that his consensus fourth or fifth best album is actually the best?
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 06:26 (two years ago) link
uh i try to have as few opinions on john mayer as possible but i feel like there's no way he's made a record better than continuum and iirc that's the fan favorite
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 06:38 (two years ago) link
My sister picked out some Taylor Swift songs for me to listen to and I told her I thought “Dear John” was very good, and she told me it’s about John Mayer, who is not Josh Groban.
― Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 06:46 (two years ago) link
i enjoyed a number of songs from heavier things (not including "daughters")
― dyl, Thursday, 3 June 2021 03:47 (two years ago) link
i think i've figured out which album cover this reminds me of
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41cN2xnb0oL.jpg
― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Friday, 4 June 2021 22:05 (two years ago) link
*grits teeth* didn't see the damn amazon logo
DON: I think it was my wife who alerted me to John Mayer's work years ago, back when "No Such Thing" was all over the radio and television. I've kept listening through the years, quietly admiring his career arc proving he's more than just a smart guy with a guitar--a struggle I'm all too familiar with.
GLENN: We truly were the Vasco de Gama and Cabeza de Vaca to his Kit Carson in exploring bodies as Wonderlands.
DON: Well, yeah.
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 4 June 2021 23:05 (two years ago) link
It's got the tropes down:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Ne5dVDfLM
― too cool for zen talk (Eazy), Monday, 14 June 2021 20:50 (two years ago) link
(Don Was producing! Toto/Thriller guy on keebs!)
― too cool for zen talk (Eazy), Monday, 14 June 2021 21:08 (two years ago) link
I…. don’t hate this?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 14 June 2021 21:26 (two years ago) link
it's pretty good. nice to see maren
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 14 June 2021 21:28 (two years ago) link
Xpost lol was gonna say synths sound like "Africa".
Is this his Tunnel of Love?
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 June 2021 21:46 (two years ago) link
It feels like a sibling of Miley’s Plastic Hearts, as far as mining a specific 80s sound that hasn’t been overdone already, and then aiming to write a standard that holds its own against the originals from that time.
― too cool for zen talk (Eazy), Monday, 14 June 2021 23:58 (two years ago) link
feel like there may be songs like Genesis's "Throwing It All Away" here, surely he'll pull out the guitar more.
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 00:04 (two years ago) link
It was several days before I heard the "Africa" thing people were talking about, because my immediate impression was Steve Winwood. Not just the synth sound choices, but the progression, et al. I mean, I assume it's a hodgepodge of many different things, but Winwood stuck out to me most initially (and still does).
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 02:13 (two years ago) link
I heard Winwood too more than Toto. Smart of him to upload an acoustic version, just to show the bones underneath the arrangement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtDhSX_77fg
― too cool for zen talk (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 04:05 (two years ago) link
hornsby
― brimstead, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 05:48 (two years ago) link
kinda
I think I like everything about this except the outro with the female vocalist. It gets too corny at the end there. Also that add histrionic vocals for extra emotion in the last choris sounds more like a 90’s trick than an 80’s one to me.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 13:20 (two years ago) link
Some interesting bits in this interview.
“Yeah, it was, ‘Pretend someone made a record in 1988 and shelved it and it was just found this year.’ I think if you’re wise enough and care enough about the thing you’re doing, you can go back to another time and reanimate it —you can go heat that mercury back up, and find a way not to reproduce something but continue to produce it from the original loom.”
Around 2011, the idea returns that being stingy with melody is what’s cool, and it was, because people had gone too extreme with being so melodic. Now we love asymmetrical song composition — as perfected by Frank Ocean. Post-’Pyramids,’ we go, ‘I could be melodic, but I choose not to. I’m not going to paint a face, I’m going to paint shapes.’ Then everyone spoofs that and you get people painting impressionistic shapes — and at a certain point, people go, ‘I really wanna see a face again!’ No offense to anyone doing triangles, but I wanna see humanity in the music, and for me, Sob Rock is this cautious return to how powerful it is to hear wide intervals played loudly on a synth.
― too cool for zen talk (Eazy), Thursday, 8 July 2021 21:04 (two years ago) link
Ge1r to thread
― r u rolling pop 2021 (morrisp), Thursday, 8 July 2021 21:06 (two years ago) link
It's interesting to me how he's sort of reinvented himself as a guitar hero (blues rock, fronting Dead & Co., etc.). Like he is constantly mentioned in guitarist circles today. I guess deservedly so, not exactly my thing but he is a really good guitar player.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 8 July 2021 21:45 (two years ago) link
I guess it's partly interesting to me because the category of guitar hero is semi-dead, and to the extent it exists it's mostly people outside of the pop world.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 8 July 2021 21:46 (two years ago) link
I don't know, I think the "guitar guy" narrative has followed him for a lot longer than that, so I don't think it's a "reinvention" - more of a parallel thing to his pop star beginnings.
I mean, I really remember people telling me "but he's actually a killer guitar player" even before he started doing his trio records.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 8 July 2021 21:53 (two years ago) link
yeah like 15 years ago this dude played me Mayer covering Hendrix on some Live at Abby Road thing and I actually enjoyed it. Probably annoyed a few people with “actually John Mayer is a smokin guitar player” challops
― brimstead, Thursday, 8 July 2021 21:58 (two years ago) link
I looked up his stats for the NJ thread, and, well, yeah he doesn't really qualify. Big debut, followed by several solid sellers albeit with ultimately diminishing #s, ala Pearl Jam.
It's not the same, but I do recall tons of copies of his Trio live album hitting used bins shortly after it came out.
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 17 July 2021 22:12 (two years ago) link
Something I made and posted elsewhere on ILM
https://frinkiac.com/video/S04E05/ZcxmdX47EyOkm0rfXgzDlPTKch4=.gif
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 17 July 2021 22:27 (two years ago) link
I've yet to hear any guitar work from him that seems the least bit compelling to me, but he definitely seems to get a lot of kudos in that world
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, July 16, 2021 3:08 PM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink
think he says on record he just dumbs it down and keeps it simple
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Friday, July 16, 2021 3:16 PM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink
I've said before I'd like to hear him stretch out on something, maybe take some risks, make mistakes. Even in the Dead & Co footage I've seen he plays it safer than I'd like, part of why I more enjoy Billy Strings with Billy and the Kids even though you could make a case for John Mayer as the "better" guitarist. Like Mayer is obviously a guitar wiz -- if you've ever seen his guitar tik toks where he breaks stuff down, he is undeniably brilliant. But there's something about him that just can't bear to allow any cracks in the perfect facade. Even this new record, the concept, the way it's marketed, the sound, really "nails" the aesthetic. Does it do anything else?
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 22 July 2021 19:33 (two years ago) link
Fwiw, part of the thing with Dead & Co, especially in the early tours, is that Bob Weir is the de facto leader and he can be weirdly risk averse for a guy who built is legacy with a band like that. There were several times I'd get really interested in what Mayer was playing during a jam, only to have Bobby ripcord and overpower him with the song's main riff to bring it back in. It's gotten a lot better in recent tours though.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 July 2021 19:40 (two years ago) link
"his legacy"
MORE LIKE SAAB ROCK AMIRITE
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 22 July 2021 19:43 (two years ago) link
https://img.discogs.com/aEDzC0rVjpqPJTTvL1C7LDg4kSA=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-4096718-1355103855-8401.jpeg.jpg
― Max Ice (morrisp), Thursday, 22 July 2021 20:11 (two years ago) link
continuum: really good lowkey neo-soul record. so good that i look at most of what he's released since and think wtf happened to this guy
― ivy (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 15:16 (nine months ago) link
otm. Continuum is his classic, and then he abandoned that and went back to mostly middling stuff
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 15:18 (nine months ago) link
actually remember being surprised when I first heard "Vultures", as I hadn't heard anything of his after "Your Body is a Wonderland", and was like "this is THAT guy?"
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 15:22 (nine months ago) link
"vultures" sounds like a freaking maxwell song, it is outrageously wonderful
― ivy (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 15:24 (nine months ago) link
Surprised “vultures” was not released as a single, it’s one of his best songs and sounds to me very radio friendly.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 15:55 (nine months ago) link
I did have to endure an xgau panel paper where he went all-in on "Waiting for the World to Change."
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 15:57 (nine months ago) link
But yes, agree that Continuum is his definitive album.
Great production, great musicianship and his songwriting improves a lot from previous efforts. It’s the one that best balances his pop, rock, blues, soul influences into a John Mayer cohesive style. This album and the live performances around the era showed and undeniable skill and knowledge, shame he wasn’t up to continue on this path.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 16:04 (nine months ago) link
i dont trust myself sounds like a dangelo song
― Spottie, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 16:27 (nine months ago) link
that song was weird for me because I got into this album because the girl I was dating at the time was obsessed and both of us identified HEAVILY with "I Don't Trust Myself" lyrically at the time, but for different reasons.
was a beautiful bonding experience listening to the songs together.
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 16:34 (nine months ago) link
best Mayer song is Back to You imo.
― dc, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 17:06 (nine months ago) link