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Why the hell did Cicero not have bodyguards? That was the most casual political assasination ever .

― Bill Magill, Thursday, 22 February 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Perhaps he wanted to die a martyr to the Republic.

― Michael White, Thursday, 22 February 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

that last episode was so good, and so bloody! cicero's neck omg!

also, killing rich merchants to pay the army? whoa
i've been thinking and talking a lot lately about (the failed/ongoing project of) democracy, and this show keeps coming up. interesting.

― rrrobyn, Thursday, 22 February 2007 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

The proto-fascism of the late republic/early empire has always fascinated. Read Monesquieu's 'The Spirit of Laws', rrobyn.

― Michael White, Thursday, 22 February 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks!
(and thanks internet - http://www.constitution.org/cm/sol-02.htm)
a friend of mine actually brought this up when the first season was on, but i forgot about it. totally interesting!

― rrrobyn, Thursday, 22 February 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Phillipi explains why this series is only ten episodes.

― Gukbe, Thursday, 22 February 2007 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm two weeks behind, so I can't contribute much (except my undying love of Titus Pullo, and some confusion re: all the "Attia can't act" stuff), but where is the love for the Town Crier (or whatever he actually's called)!?!?! I live for his oratorial semaphore!

― David R., Friday, 23 February 2007 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

On IMDB they call him the News Reader.

I enjoyed the super goriness of the most recent episode.

― accentmonkey, Friday, 23 February 2007 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i didn't realize my love for titus pullo was so strong until this season, but damn...
and lookit him, aw

http://www.serialseries.ch/mm/Rome_stevenson.jpg

― rrrobyn, Friday, 23 February 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I had a dream one night that I was running away from him. He wasn't lovely then, let me tell you.

― accentmonkey, Friday, 23 February 2007 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

SPOILERS ABOUND!

Titus Pullo and Sayid (Lost) are pretty much dreamy.
This last episode of Rome bothered me because...I am supposed to believe that Cicero is killed by Pullo and the last words he wrote were made into a hat for Vorenus' kids?
let's put history into a neatly wrapped up newspaper!
It's typical in television - and it's weird that we know they (HBO) cancelled the series. But, please.
Does everything have to be a link to another story?

Brutus' death was amazing.
The last stand was amazing.
The warriors going forth on command was amazing.
And i liked Vorenus and the kids being happy in the country.
I don't like it when it gets contrived.

― aimurchie, Friday, 23 February 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Wish they hadn't killed Eirenne like they did.

I'm digging the Aventine stuff, which surprises me slightly.

and OMG, Posca married!

I liked Octavian's "oh, just so ya know" talk to Livia re: beating you from time to time for sexual pleasure.

― Gukbe, Monday, 12 March 2007 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

You mean OMG PULLO MAN TONGUE!

Did HBO actually cancel the series, or was it supposed to be short-lived? I can't see the series being worth much once Anthony gets dispatched, unless they're going to play that clip of Purefoy calling Octavian "BOY" in every episode of the 3rd season.

― David R., Monday, 12 March 2007 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Pullo as head of the Aventine will be interesting since much of the rest of the plot is foreseeable.

― Michael White, Monday, 12 March 2007 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Also (thinking on that awesome hoe-down in the Aventine), I can't think of any character's death in the series that has seemed cheap or cheesy. Sparta would've been proud (especially of Servilia & her servant)!

― David R., Monday, 12 March 2007 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

The initial estimates due to budget/set building of how long the show would need to run to get their money back/be profitable/whatever was 5 seasons. After the disappointing first series ratings/critical acclaim, the Italian investors amongst others decided they didn't want to go for anymore than 2.

I think it would have been great to have five seasons, as I'm sure they could have taken their time with certain things (a season ending with Phillipi, more development of Lepidus and his death in the East, more development of Livia, etc...), but I'm happy with what we've got. I figured ten episodes to get from death of Caeser to Death of Antony was going to feel really rushed, but it is working out fine at the moment.

― Gukbe, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

http://members.aol.com/paulspage/private/sorry.gif
Tony's gonna die!

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 12 March 2007 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I did love the understated (and underdressed) Anthony and Cleopatra meeting. It was very DO YOU SEE, but in a good way.

Now that Mister Monkey has told me all about Livia, I too am sorry there will not be more of her.

Nice to see Titus Pullo back swedging again.

― accentmonkey, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:26 (seventeen years ago) link

He always reminds me of John Cale.
Was this every otm'ed? It should have been.

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 18 March 2007 23:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Tonights episode delivered, for me at least. So what are we gonna do when it's all over? (Re)read Tacitus, Suetonius, Gibbon and Graves, as mentioned on the other thread? Rent Trainspotting and Small Faces and have a Kevin McKidd film festival?

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 19 March 2007 03:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Mark Antony, Mountain Man >>>> Mark Antony, New Wave Egyptian - really missing the beard, but his continued loyalty to Vorenus is great. The sole chink in Antony's suit of hedonist solipsism.

Skanky Jane Wiedlin makes for a good Cleopatra.

― milo z, Monday, 19 March 2007 03:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I would have sex with all of this Cleopatra. They sure packed a lot of cool shit into one episode. The look on nu-Octavian's face when Posca revealed the A&C will made me like him as an actor. It was a perfect "I want to do backflips around the room and then blow you but I must maintain some sense of decorum" look.

― marmotwolof, Monday, 19 March 2007 05:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I have completely changed my mind about nu-Octavian and now think he is the greatest thing in it. Lord Blakeney would merely have looked peevish while getting smacked across the gob during sex. I will miss this show so much when it finishes.

― accentmonkey, Monday, 19 March 2007 14:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm already missing it. And we're not gonna get the second season of Life On Mars over here until who knows when, assuming it's worth watching.

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, that was an awesome episode - lots of everyone and everything i love about this show
i really really wish it did not have to end so soon :(

― rrrobyn, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

assuming it's worth watching.

If it's Gene Hunt you're after, you won't be disappointed.

― accentmonkey, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

David R - I have much love for the news reader/town crier. I dig his amazing gesticulations. I've taken to imitating them sometimes when trying to make a point ;-).

Rrrobyn - I have to agree about Pullo. I've only just recently realized how hot he is!

Gah - I'm going to miss this so much!

― ENBB, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 00:12 (seventeen years ago) link

"Nobody listens to the newsreader."

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 00:53 (seventeen years ago) link

sexy episode!!

― s1ocki, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 00:57 (seventeen years ago) link

livia is pretty nasty!

― s1ocki, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 00:57 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah whoa this ep was pretty much half sex/nakedness w/ biting/hitting!

― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 01:04 (seventeen years ago) link

i have also immitated the newsreader. it is fun.

― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 01:05 (seventeen years ago) link

If it's Gene Hunt you're after, you won't be disappointed.
That is exactly what I'm looking for. Gene Hunt and Sam Tyler are my favorite brains and brawn team ever after Titus Pullo and Lucius Vorenus, although right now it's a distant second.

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 01:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i have also immitated the newsreader. it is fun.

rrrobyn on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:05 PM (26 minutes ago)

i did today

― s1ocki, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 01:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I have not imitated the newsreader until now, but I'm thinking I might start, if you guys are all doing it. It sounds cool.

― accentmonkey, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 08:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I think you all should form a chorus line of gesticulating newsreaders and then speak-sing "Roundabout" in his voice.

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 11:40 (seventeen years ago) link

http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/7c6/a88/7c6a88c0-37b0-4143-ae02-f5f5bf8c3ce4.medium
We've had this date coming for a long a time

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 25 March 2007 12:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Stop it! It's too sad.

― accentmonkey, Sunday, 25 March 2007 13:59 (seventeen years ago) link

:( :(

― rrrobyn, Sunday, 25 March 2007 14:54 (seventeen years ago) link

And that's all she wrote.

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 26 March 2007 02:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I think they bowed out very gracefully

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 26 March 2007 02:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Twice as sad to see it go after that episode - it had all the details this season has been missing as the show crossed through time and space. Antony & Cleo domestic drama, Antony & Vorenus commiseration, Vorenus & Pullo, Atia regaining first-season form w/ Livia - all brilliant.

― milo z, Monday, 26 March 2007 05:46 (seventeen years ago) link

RIP BESTEST SHOW ON TV

― marmotwolof, Monday, 26 March 2007 05:49 (seventeen years ago) link

"Define good..."

― milo z, Monday, 26 March 2007 05:49 (seventeen years ago) link

"She said I had a rotten soul."
"..."

― marmotwolof, Monday, 26 March 2007 06:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Was Antony quoting Joe Pesci in Goodfellas near the end there? Or maybe Joe was quoting Antony all along. It seems that there is an audiobook out there of Antony and Cleopatra with, um, Ciaran Hinds as Antony.

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 26 March 2007 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Attia vs. Livia at the triumph was delicious.

― Michael White, Monday, 26 March 2007 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link

any way to cure a hangover

― Gukbe, Monday, 26 March 2007 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha ha! That was a good line.

― Michael White, Monday, 26 March 2007 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Looks like Kevin McKidd is going to be in a time-travel cop show!

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 26 March 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

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