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Cards at Cubs, June 9, 2004

Tricks are for kids, 2004 edition: Matt Morris throws at Derrek Lee's head after failing to successfully intimidate Todd Hollandsworth in the previous at-bat. Lee delivers F-bombs to Morris and LaRussa, no punches thrown. Farnsworth DNP.

mattbot (mattbot), Thursday, 10 June 2004 13:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, Tony LaRussa not one week ago at PIT:

"Those pitches up there are unacceptable," La Russa said. "I don't care what the explanation is. If we'd have done it, the pitcher would have been pulled aside by the scruff of the neck and told, 'If you pitch like that, you won't pitch here.'"

I hate that guy with a passion.

mattbot (mattbot), Thursday, 10 June 2004 13:19 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
why the fuck isn't fox showing this game here? mf. not that i want to watch anyway.

John (jdahlem), Saturday, 24 July 2004 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link

So what the hell exactly happened? A-Rod got the shaft, jawed w/ Varitek, Varitek mushed him with the glove, & then what? Sucker punches? Bloodied Sturtze? Did Zim drive up from Tampa & mix it up, too?

David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Not sure how long it'll be up, but you can download a video of the brawl here: http://home.comcast.net/~rekilcoyne/soxyanksbrawl.mpg (via bostondirtdogs.com)

It doesn't really answer many of your questions though. But you can't keep David Ortiz away from a good fight!

mattbot (mattbot), Sunday, 25 July 2004 00:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I quite enjoyed A-Rod's careful enunciation of his "discussion" with Arroyo. Even I could understand it, and I don't even lip-read.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Sunday, 25 July 2004 04:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I think my 76-year-old Red Sox-lovin' mom could lip-read that.

Judging by the pic above, Varitek should be on the short list of Moes for the Farrelly Brothers' upcoming Three Stooges film.

As much fun as it was to see A-Rod get poked in his purty face after gettin' all bitchy, Varitek keeping the mask on was rather bush.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 July 2004 13:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Varitek looked like he was trying to slip his fingers in a-rods ass. Then Jete's came in and took over for him.

Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Monday, 26 July 2004 13:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Kapler would destroy Sturtze. I know Sturtze, he's from Worcester.


http://www.jasonhoke.com/images/gabe10.JPG

Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Monday, 26 July 2004 13:08 (nineteen years ago) link

my favorite part of that brawl (and favorite part of any baseball brawl) is the guy who comes in to play hero and wind up getting separated from the rest of his team thereby leaving himself open to a thrashing. this time it was tanyon sturtze who came up behind gabe kapler and hog collared him only to be dragged away from the pile by david ortiz and trot nixon.


and morbs, i think the fact that varitek not only kept his mask on but also his glove shows that he wasn't prepared for the situation to escalate as quickly as it did.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 26 July 2004 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link

How can a singles hitter look like that? Felix Fermin had more pop than that stud.

And Otto OTM. If only baseball brawls were more like 18th century presidential duels. "Good sir, please permit me to remove my catching paraphenalia before the fisticuffs ensue lest I possess an unfair advantage, I implore you."

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 26 July 2004 13:13 (nineteen years ago) link

there's the hero.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 26 July 2004 13:25 (nineteen years ago) link

You can have all the muscles in the world and not be able to hit homeruns, its a matter of timing.

Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Monday, 26 July 2004 13:40 (nineteen years ago) link

i forgot the img tag won't work now.

http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/nixonkaptacklesturtze.jpg


there's the hero.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 26 July 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Fair enough; if A-Rod is the one who said "Let's go" as reported, he got what he deserved. If only the Yankees had gone into the stands after Ben Affleck.

Big oiled man-tits do not a slugger make...

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 July 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

it looks like jeff garcia (pre jackinthebox dui).

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 26 July 2004 13:56 (nineteen years ago) link

"Good sir, please permit me to remove my catching paraphenalia before the fisticuffs ensue lest I possess an unfair advantage, I implore you."

Did anybody see that bit on Conan a while back where he was out talking to a group of guys who did re-enactments of turn-of-the-century baseball games? Conan suited up (complete with a fake handlebar moustache) to take some cuts and was talking trash at the pitcher in that same type of vernacular. The pitcher threw one high and tight and Conan charged the mound, paused to roll his sleeves up, and then took on a bare-knuckles boxer pose. I laughed my ass off.

boldbury (boldbury), Monday, 26 July 2004 14:22 (nineteen years ago) link

i remember when jim rice went into the stands at yankee stadium, that was classic. some guy stole rice's hat on a foul pop so jim ed jumped into the stands to get it. the look of surprise/shock/horror on the guy's face as he realized rice was coming after him was great.

i also remember claudell washington going into the stands at fenway but that was because he didn't realize how close to the wall in right he was. it resulted in the slowest inside the park home run i've ever seen. bill buckner looked like the tin man rounding the bases. i swear he had no knee cartilege left, you could almost hear the bone on bone grinding as he chugged around third.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 26 July 2004 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link

why didn't A-Rod take the base? It wasn't that bad of a hit. The NYC media's been crying "beaning" and "drilling" but c'mon, it hit him in the back and didn't look like it had much speed.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 26 July 2004 14:35 (nineteen years ago) link

h, we're talking about "the best player in baseball" here!

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 26 July 2004 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link

the best player in baseball would help his team, and that includes not leaving his starting pitcher susceptible to getting triple-teamed.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 26 July 2004 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Did someone order a tasteless reference?

Kaz Tadano (mattbot), Monday, 26 July 2004 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah that was a batting practice pitch for ya, dude.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 26 July 2004 15:00 (nineteen years ago) link

"the best player in baseball" = highest salary obviously.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 26 July 2004 15:03 (nineteen years ago) link

VB, I was going to include a lame lengthy disclaimer re: big pecs != HR power, but, shit, if you have that sort of physique, don't swing DOWN on the ball like a Walt Hriniak reject. Rob Deer that shit, Kapler!

Also, I thought the pitch hit Senora A-Rod (oh snap!) on the elbow. Regardless, that was a strange time for "the best player in baseball" to Cowboy Up to the original Marlboro Men. Also, I've never heard of a team headhunting a player for hitting the game-winning SINGLE in the previous contest. Unless Bob Brenley was the manager.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 26 July 2004 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link

gygax, seriously, WHY DO YOU CARE

i mean, in that other thread you were hinting that jeter might be a better shortstop, which would've gotten you strung up or worse in most parts a year ago. and he's had an off year, but it's not THAT off.

first of all, the best player in baseball tag is 75% agent hype from his free agency period after the 2000 season, a season in which he really WAS the best player in baseball. the tag stuck because in every year since he's been the best player in the american league, and the best all-around player in the game. even if he IS past his prime, you have to a allow a window for that perception to fade (especially now that he's a yankee(?)). and i'd still say he's probably the best all-around player in the game. IT IS JUST NOT A BIG DEAL OK. this is just some my-guy's-dick-is-bigger-than-yours-and-well-i-hate-the-yankees-too thing i'm sure, but gimme a break, like bonds is underrated by anybody?? get over it.

(and now i've really opened myself up so you're gonna continue to pull that shit just cuz, grr)


getting on topic now, i'm glad a-rod did what he did, and i don't think it was less about HIM being hit than it was about the yankees getting drilled left and right all year (and all last) by the sox and left unable to retaliate because of warnings issued. if a pitcher couldn't put a stop to it, a player had to, and a-rod did for this series. tell em when enough is enough, you know?

John (jdahlem), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link

as a red sox fan i for one want to thank a-rod for waking this team up. they've been sleepwalking since may day and that fight was the first sign of life they've exhibited all summer. i'm actually hopeful they can win the wild card now.

thanks a-rod!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I ain't thankin' no one for no thing until the Sox can actually beat the Orioles.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 26 July 2004 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link

hi john,

are there any yankees that are having "all-star seasons" other than rivera?

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 26 July 2004 20:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Tom Gordon, the best reliever in baseball.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/rrereport04.html


A-Rod, Sheffield and Posada are all in the AL top 15 in Equivalent Average. Even as a Yankee hater, I can acknowledge they're legit All-Stars. A-Rod falls short only by his previous Olympian standards, and unlike hstencil, I don't think he's overpaid by a cent.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 July 2004 20:53 (nineteen years ago) link

of course he's overpaid, just not by the yankees, who're paying low market value.

John (jdahlem), Monday, 26 July 2004 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Judging by Tom Gordon's career #s (and there's quite a sample size in his case), he's due for quite a few shellings.

But John seriously why you want to get ALL CAPS on me?

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 26 July 2004 21:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Former Cardinals prospect Adam Kennedy, currently an Anaheim Angel, went to war with Rangers catcher Gerald Laird while the teams were warming up for their Tuesday night game.

"I've seen a lot of brawls," former Angel Bobby Grich told he Los Angeles Times, "but never during batting practice."

So what happened? The night before, Laird accused Kennedy of leaning into a pitch, hoping to get hit with the bases loaded to force in a run. He told him as much during that at-bat.

Kennedy sought to revisit the issue the next day . . . and one thing led to another. It started when Kennedy glared at his accuser.

"Do you have a problem?" Laird asked.

"Don't be trying to show me up," Kennedy said.

And then the two became entangled. Rangers outfielder Brian Jordan, the former Cardinal, jumped in and applied a headlock on Kennedy as the two teams converged.

bnw (bnw), Thursday, 29 July 2004 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Those former Cardinals are such ruffians. Gashouse Gang indeed!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
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Kendall v. Kennedy, 8/15/04

mattbot (mattbot), Monday, 16 August 2004 12:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Better shot here: http://www.post-gazette.com/images2/20040816mf_bucs_kendall_fitePJ_450.jpg

I can't get these to display this morning.

mattbot (mattbot), Monday, 16 August 2004 12:31 (nineteen years ago) link

this one kind of came out of the blue. i'm not aware of bad blood between these 2 and the pirates & rockies aren't exactly competing for a division title or anything¡

dyson (dyson), Monday, 16 August 2004 12:48 (nineteen years ago) link

As even the sponges on BBTN pointed out, it's because Kendall is one of those assholes who stands on top of the plate and leans into pitches... cf Carl Everett.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 August 2004 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/2006/05/20/h4JAfVgE.jpg

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Morbius there is an incredible photo - even more incredible - of that dust-up; let me find it

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:24 (seventeen years ago) link

what is it about a Cub uni that turns hot blond guys from Georgia into psycho thugs?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:32 (seventeen years ago) link

you're insane if you think it wasn't barrett's fault.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link

i know it was barrett's fault, and he appeared to after the game.

We know from the brawl chart in BB Between the Numbers they don't "fire up" win totals of crappy teams, too.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Yay to the girl in the black top and the 70's-80's style White Sox cap = I'd hit it.

This is a great picture, but the fan reactions are a reminder of my unfulfilled dream to be in attendance at a true bench-clearing brawl.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

why, because hockey doesn't do it for you anymore?

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a better photo out there that has Pierzynski's undeterred face a fraction of second before Barret's fist hits it.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

haha:

http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/images/admin/aj_mot3.jpg

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

• Pirates pitcher Keone Kela has received a 10-game suspension for intentionally throwing a pitch in the area of the head of Derek Dietrich of the Reds in the bottom of the seventh inning and for his role in instigating the bench-clearing incident.
• Reds pitcher Amir Garrett has received an eight-game suspension for inciting the bench-clearing incident by running to the area outside the Pirates’ dugout and throwing a punch in the top of the ninth inning.
• Pirates infielder José Osuna has received a five-game suspension for his aggressive and inappropriate actions during the ninth inning incident.
• Reds pitcher Jared Hughes has received a three-game suspension for intentionally throwing a pitch at Starling Marte of the Pirates in the top of the ninth inning.
• Pirates pitcher Kyle Crick has received a three-game suspension for his inappropriate actions during the ninth inning incident.
• Cleveland Indians outfielder Yasiel Puig, who was then a member of the Reds, has received a three-game suspension for his aggressive actions during the ninth inning incident.
• Reds manager David Bell has received a six-game suspension for returning to the field following his ejection; escalating the incident with his aggressive actions; his Club’s intentional pitch at Marte; and his numerous ejections this season.
• Pirates manager Clint Hurdle has received a two-game suspension for his Club’s conduct during the incident and his Club’s multiple intentional pitches thrown at Dietrich this season.

mookieproof, Thursday, 1 August 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link

kela's mistake was admitting that he'd thrown at dietrich. still kinda surprised he got more than garrett tho

is six games for a manager a record?

mookieproof, Thursday, 1 August 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link

Dietrich must have honked off most of the division, as the Brewers also hit him 3 times in a game earlier this year.

earlnash, Friday, 2 August 2019 00:15 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Bob Johnson throws behind Lenny Randle. The next pitch Randle bunts down the first baseline just so he can fucking blast Johnson. pic.twitter.com/YvE5jUXCiA

— Jomboy (@Jomboy_) August 28, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 August 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

that may have stoked the flames and helped lead to the 10 Cent Beer Night riot a few nights later between the same two teams

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Cent_Beer_Night

omar little, Thursday, 29 August 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link

a+ bunting skillz

mookieproof, Thursday, 29 August 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

also -- no one was ejected!

omar little, Thursday, 29 August 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

thread, en español:

Aquí arranca la noche entre Águilas y Caribes: Pelotazo de Rómulo Sánchez a César Varela

🎥: @YouTube Águilas del Zulia mcbo / @IVCNetworksVE pic.twitter.com/HtbE6XhCKf

— Jean Carlos Arias (@Comandante81) January 9, 2020

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 9 January 2020 18:06 (four years ago) link

seven months pass...

Man seems like nobody likes the Astros anymore.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 9 August 2020 22:44 (three years ago) link

laureano needs to work on his approach

mookieproof, Sunday, 9 August 2020 23:17 (three years ago) link

in the spirit of the thread, youre sposed to link to some clips (I haven't seen any yet)

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 August 2020 01:08 (three years ago) link

Ramón Laureano charges the Astros dugout, a breakdown pic.twitter.com/2XaBn57Jsx

— Jomboy (@Jomboy_) August 10, 2020

mookieproof, Monday, 10 August 2020 14:11 (three years ago) link

yep, Cintron appears at least as guilty as Laureano if not moreso

The tough guy on Astros bench deserves 10 games for telling Laureano to come at him and 40 for hiding behind everyone else when he did. https://t.co/1wbdextB4Y

— Alex Pavlovic (@PavlovicNBCS) August 9, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 August 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

20-game suspension for cintron

mookieproof, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link

laureano got five

mookieproof, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

not terrible, laureano can still appeal ya?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link

A 20-game suspension for a coach is nearly unprecedented, no?

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 04:10 (three years ago) link

he was being a real special asshole

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 04:44 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I'd kick him out of the majors if I were commish, that's some first-class yellow-bellied chicken shit.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 05:07 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Benches clear!!! 👊@Angels | #GoHalos pic.twitter.com/EUnTTcjW1D

— Bally Sports West (@BallySportWest) June 26, 2022

mookieproof, Sunday, 26 June 2022 20:49 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/ELniMTnSZe

— Angels MiLB (@AngelsMiLB) June 26, 2022

mookieproof, Sunday, 26 June 2022 21:04 (one year ago) link

nevin suspended 10 games for being a shithead

winker suspended seven games for . . . being plunked

raisel iglesias gets just two for being insane

mookieproof, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 03:40 (one year ago) link

Winker did, you know, flip off the entire stadium

one year passes...

lucky shot but congratulations to tim anderson on becoming the new robin ventura

synced up hammy’s radio call with the better angle broadcast

down goes anderson pic.twitter.com/oUxhEHT1eH

— paco (@AllaireMatt) August 6, 2023

mookieproof, Sunday, 6 August 2023 05:16 (eight months ago) link

funny how he squares up southpaw

k3vin k., Sunday, 6 August 2023 17:24 (eight months ago) link

Ramirez had crazy kid energy just throwing two-fisted prayers and one got answered.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Sunday, 6 August 2023 17:42 (eight months ago) link

lol insult to injury

Tim Anderson suspended 6 games for fight, Jose Ramirez out 3

mookieproof, Monday, 7 August 2023 19:39 (eight months ago) link


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