― anthony, Tuesday, 26 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
1. The completely unique sound she gets out of an acoustic guitar on "Blue". 'A Case Of You' = classic.
2. "The Hissing Of Summer Lawns": my definition of Pazz & Jop. Also includes Burundi music way before it was fashionable to do things like this.
3. A band like Nazareth can do great covers of her material. Also her vocal lines are ideal fodder for bootlegs (as Fluke demonstrated years ago). Recontextualisation and all that.
4. She kept Jaco busy - hence fewer shitty Jazz Rock records were made.
(I'm joking about No.4 alex!)
― Jeff W, Tuesday, 26 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
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― Fabrice (Fabfunk), Friday, 29 August 2003 08:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 29 August 2003 10:12 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 29 August 2003 12:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:38 (twenty years ago) link
and/or multiple alternate tunings, some of her own invention, i believe?
she's one of the greats, compositionally, subject-matter-wise and maybe persona-wise. and yes, arguably hot, if you like the personality. and probably harder than anyone who thinks she's "twee".
Both For the Roses and Court and Spark are arguably better than Blue. Her best singing (and guitar-playing?) may be on the otherwise middling though convenient pre-C&S-greatest-hits live Miles of Aisles
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:49 (twenty years ago) link
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― Sean (Sean), Friday, 29 August 2003 17:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:12 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:19 (twenty years ago) link
― youn, Friday, 29 August 2003 18:21 (twenty years ago) link
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― Sean (Sean), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:22 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:26 (twenty years ago) link
i wish i liked anne briggs more.
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:26 (twenty years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 29 August 2003 19:02 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 August 2003 19:08 (twenty years ago) link
just noticed gygax's post. well, a 2nd opinion then.
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 29 August 2003 20:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 30 August 2003 07:10 (twenty years ago) link
That should read v. famous SCOTTISH guitar player etc., hope you never meet Bert on a dark night!
― Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 31 August 2003 12:43 (twenty years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 31 August 2003 19:07 (twenty years ago) link
― christoff (christoff), Friday, 5 September 2003 12:59 (twenty years ago) link
Expanded 2CD remasters of "Court And Spark", "Hissing Of Summer Lawns" and "Hejira" were supposed to have been released by January this year. They are not yet in the shops half a year later. Does anyone know what happened and when and if they are due?
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link
she dumped them in the ocean, I heard.
― sw00ds, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 20:26 (sixteen years ago) link
listened to Dog Eat Dog the other day hoping to find a dollar bin gem amidst the 80s production. unfortunately it sucked doggie dick
― jaxon, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link
hence the album title?
― sw00ds, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link
...lesbian dogs?!
― t**t, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link
I only know Blue but I love it. I started a little cult of Joni in secondary school when I traded my extra copy of Psychocandy with my friends extra copy of this. I think we both did well.
― I know, right?, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link
I still think the real gems are those mid 70s ones, when she used more instruments and adopted a more "floating" and sophisticated song style. Even if there may be a bit too much chorus guitar on "Hejira" at times.
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 22:27 (sixteen years ago) link
I agree... Hissing of Summer Lawns is my favourite Joni Mitchell record.
― Keith, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 22:31 (sixteen years ago) link
Court and Spark is my favorite because of the incredibly strong songwriting . I prefer it over Blue for sure. I'm shocked at the animosity up-thread.
― humansuit, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 23:12 (sixteen years ago) link
"Good Friends" is a good track and single!
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 23:16 (sixteen years ago) link
"Night Ride Home" is an underpraised gem
― J0hn D., Thursday, 12 July 2007 01:09 (sixteen years ago) link
the album or song?
― jaxon, Thursday, 12 July 2007 01:15 (sixteen years ago) link
"Come In From The Cold" is my favorite Joni song of the last 20 years.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 July 2007 01:22 (sixteen years ago) link
i really enjoy about 1/2 of Dog Eat Dog - 'Fiction', 'Good Friends', 'Impossible Dreamer' and the title track all work for me, esp. the first two.
it's odd to think of Night Ride Home as underappreciated - i always considered it one of, if not her very best, post-'70s albums.
― derrrick, Friday, 13 July 2007 08:03 (sixteen years ago) link
And nobody knows anything about the remasters?
I only have burned copies of those three, and I plan to buy them, but even though they often only a third of the price, I refuse to buy the old editions now that I know remasters are probably on their way anytime soon.
― Geir Hongro, Friday, 13 July 2007 22:12 (sixteen years ago) link
I think there's a thread somewhere on the reissues and someone in the know seemed to imply that the remasters were not gonna happen.
― baaderonixx, Friday, 13 July 2007 22:21 (sixteen years ago) link
The current bunch of Mitchell albums in the discount bins suggest otherwirse.
The remasters have been done - there were even press releases being released just a couple of weeks before the supposed release date in January. But they were postponed obviously.
― Geir Hongro, Friday, 13 July 2007 22:24 (sixteen years ago) link
To me the HDCD versions of these albums sounded excellent, with nice warmth and dynamics. The enticement of new versions would have to be either in exras (in which case what are they?) or in surround versions or advanced resolution. (I recall that there was a quad version of Hissing....)
SpinCDs.com say August 10, but these have been delayed before — originally they were to be released in February 2006 — so I wouldn't put much store by that date.
― eatandoph, Saturday, 14 July 2007 02:21 (sixteen years ago) link
I got most of Joni Mitchell's 70s output on vinyl for about $10 bucks out of dollar bins. My favorite album that she did is Coyote. She did other records that are kind of jazzy, but that is the best one. Her other records generally have a few songs that really catch with me. I like the two 70s live albums better than much of the studio records.
I always thought "Help Me" would have been a good song for late 80s Dinosaur Jr. to cover.
― earlnash, Saturday, 14 July 2007 02:30 (sixteen years ago) link
The HDCDs are of her earlier singer/songwriter output only. "Court And Spark", "Hissing Of Summer Lawns" and "Hejira" have never been released in HDCD.
Warner's CDs from the 80s sounded better than most other 80s CD, with better dynamics and more stereo separation (I guess that's why they have yet to do anything about the back catalogues by the likes of Prince or Phil Collins), but they still don't hold up today when compared to HDCD ones.
― Geir Hongro, Saturday, 14 July 2007 22:54 (sixteen years ago) link
I will say she is Classic for Blue alone.
― I know, right?, Saturday, 14 July 2007 23:00 (sixteen years ago) link
I spent some time in England and remember that for some reason you could find the HDCD versions of the early albums but not of the mid-late-seventies ones. Presumably this is still the case in the EU. The HDCD versions can be differentiated by the spines: instead of having big block print, the lettering is the same as that used on the back cover, and the artwork wraps around where applicable. I think the catalog numbers are the same.
― eatandoph, Sunday, 15 July 2007 00:30 (sixteen years ago) link
does "Song For Sharon" have the best chord progression ever or what?
― aaron d.g., Sunday, 11 January 2009 08:04 (fifteen years ago) link
A couple of memos I just recently got:Graham Nash w Joni Mitchell: "Our House" demo:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYjRzQc_ch4
Joni w Neil & Stray Gators: "You Turn Me On (I'm a Radio)" demo:http://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#sent/KtbxLthNPsswdGjwZhDhqMMTPvwXWqzhHL?projector=1
― dow, Saturday, 14 October 2023 18:33 (six months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE9arLNixB4
― dow, Saturday, 14 October 2023 18:35 (six months ago) link
The "Hissing..." alternates and demos are beeeeyoooooootifulll
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 14 October 2023 22:33 (six months ago) link
Joni came out for the encore of the Brandi Carlile & Friends show at the Hollywood Bowl tonight, seated on her royal throne flanked by Brandi and Annie Lennox (the other friends included Wendy & Lisa, Allison Russell, and the two singers from the band Lucius). They played “Shine” (which Brandi said was her favorite JM song), “Ladies of the Canyon” and “The Circle Game” with the whole crowd singing along to the chorus, the music ringing out through the night air, just a stone’s throw from Laurel Canyon. Absolutely magical.
― donna rouge, Sunday, 15 October 2023 07:07 (six months ago) link
I was there too - it was terrific.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 15 October 2023 07:41 (six months ago) link
Happy birthday, ma'am.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfYT_RMhvLA
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 13:57 (five months ago) link
Goodness. Some of the very early opinions on this site are unbelievable.
Happy birthday Joni
― Duke, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 22:18 (five months ago) link
ffs, you're not kidding, Duke. I had actually forgot how bad it could be back then.
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 21:42 (three months ago) link
we paved livejournal and put up a fap zing lot
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 21:44 (three months ago) link
This message board as a whole is the best reminder I have of what the internet was like in the early 00s. Basically just a bunch of what we’d now call hot takes (mostly attention seeking it seems) and name calling and a lot of people who felt freely open to criticize each other from behind a keyboard when I know if they ever ran into each other in real life not a word would be said.
― zacata, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 21:46 (three months ago) link
Er, not “as a whole” implying that it’s the same now, but nowhere else do I consistently come across posts from 20 years ago that serve as a reminder of the above.
― zacata, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 21:50 (three months ago) link
“ felt freely open to criticize each other from behind a keyboard when I know if they ever ran into each other in real life not a word would be said”this is a good thing tho!!!!!!
― brimstead, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 22:01 (three months ago) link
Why is it a good thing? If you wouldn't say something to someone's face, you shouldn't say it to them online.
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 22:26 (three months ago) link
insert that won't do emoticon here
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 22:53 (three months ago) link
xp political speech, /trenchant blah blah never mind me
― brimstead, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 23:36 (three months ago) link
I guess I just meant “saying stuff” not “saying stuff TO ppl”, please disregard I don’t mean anything
― brimstead, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 23:37 (three months ago) link
Classic
― ꙮ (map), Thursday, 4 January 2024 13:45 (three months ago) link
The legendary Joni Mitchell will perform her first Los Angeles headlining show in over 24 years at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, October 19 – joined by the Joni Jam. Pre-sales start tomorrow at 10 a.m. with password JJAM24. Tickets go on sale to the public Friday, February 2 at 10 a.m.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 18:55 (two months ago) link
I saw her a few months back at Hollywood Bowl with Brandi Carlile (where the "Joni Jam" portion was not explicitly advertised the way this one is).
They only did, I think, three of Joni's songs. Joni herself was not in great shape. She was very much buoyed by all the women surrounding her (Brandi, Annie Lennox, Allison Russell, a few others). Annie Lennox especially. Nevertheless the pure joyousness of the atmosphere was incredible, and I'd imagine a full set would be wonderful.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:58 (two months ago) link
Just noticed that both Joni and Neil are back on Spotify.
― meatster of puppets (peace, man), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 16:54 (three weeks ago) link
Yep. After Neil Young saw that Joe Rogan and his misinformation podcast was now available from multiple outlets and he didn’t want to boycott them all, he decided to go back on Spotify. Then Joni did the same.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 17:00 (three weeks ago) link
'joni back on streaming' status update:
"sex kills" back in regular rotation, as the natural of things should be.
ps-hi alfred. you defend "sex kills" for your reasons stated above (all of which are good) , but also because we all know it's some of her best work. ♡i heart complainy joni♡
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Monday, 1 April 2024 23:48 (three weeks ago) link
What's bad from this era are a lot of finger-pointing songs about societal ills and the media. She'd written songs like this throughout her career, but at this point they became scolding and self-righteous.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:09 (three weeks ago) link
total banger.
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:14 (three weeks ago) link
I don't mind scolding and self-righteousness when the groove is food.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:20 (three weeks ago) link
And good food.
Is justice
Just.. ice?
― Premises, Premises (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:37 (three weeks ago) link
Are notifications
Not if I cat ions?
― Premises, Premises (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:38 (three weeks ago) link
I dislike "Sex Kills", me, but it does seem to me to be a rejoinder to/echo of Prince's "Sign O The Times", throwing some mutual respect back at the guy, which I like
― Premises, Premises (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:42 (three weeks ago) link