Wilco - Sky Blue Sky

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is the album title a laurie anderson reference? probably not

akm, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 23:34 (seventeen years ago) link

the new bright eyes single is better than the new wilco single.

just sayin.

tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 23:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't heard it, but I assume the lyrics in the Wilco single are appalling?

Drooone, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 23:40 (seventeen years ago) link

o they're ok in that vague tweedy way. conor's lyrics aren't really any better, but his song has a big hook and a nice fiddle part.

tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 23:43 (seventeen years ago) link

i also heard some of the live versions of these songs.
sounds great.

gman, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Albums sounds fine to me.
Shakey OTM about Must be High off AM

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

please do not pollute a wilco discussion with the mention of bright eyes. even if you were OTM.

Dandy Don Weiner, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Is Nels still in the band? I heard the first four tracks and there's lots of noodling. And not of the tasty variety.

Jubalique die Zitronen, Thursday, 8 March 2007 00:06 (seventeen years ago) link

The new album is great - listened through twice now and really digging it. Nice scrawly guitar work a la Neil Young. No, it's not YHFT, but it's not exactly A.M., either.

First post here BTW!

Rikard Fortworth, Thursday, 8 March 2007 00:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man, why can't the whole album sound like the middle two minutes of 'You Are My Face'? Christ, why couldn't the whole of 'You Are My Face' sound like that?

G00blar, Monday, 12 March 2007 01:13 (seventeen years ago) link

What does it sound like?

President Evil, Monday, 12 March 2007 12:04 (seventeen years ago) link

So far I am really digging about half this record. "On & On & On" is probably the most poignant thing they've every done.

Simon H., Monday, 12 March 2007 14:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Uh this album is really really really bad. Lots of "tasteful" acoustic guitar and piano and tippity-tappity drums and awful lyrics and endless songs.

n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

What does it sound like?

Like a Neil Young guitar bomb has been dropped in the middle of Acoustic Street U.S.A.

G00blar, Monday, 12 March 2007 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

G00blar--I hope you don't have a patent on "Like a Neil Young guitar bomb has been dropped in the middle of Acoustic Street U.S.A." because that's my new description for ALL roots rock.

MC, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

"passenger side" is my favorite song from AM....all songs about getting DUIs are good.

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

"On & On & On" is probably the most poignant thing they've every done.

So does that mean Tweedy's lyrics are the least cringe-inducing he's written? Or maybe that someone else wrote/sang that song?

Drooone, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm starting to get used to this record, and one thing's for sure: the guitars here are excellent!someone said "Television" quality playing and it's quite right.
plus,the new Randy Newman/Van Morrison take from Tweedy is nice.
and yeah,the lyrics:Tweedy had it better before on that part.

Zeno, Saturday, 17 March 2007 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i know theres going to be a lot shit when this comes up.
i mean what do you expect when you follow up AGIB and YHF with a soft rock form.
but id say this is one of the most impressive offerings ive heard from wilco, being a pretty tweedy fan.
theyve mellowed out their style since their last couple of albums (except for nels) but tweedys delivery on this album is impeccable, hes graduated (no one will agree w/ me on this) to the greats as far as his phrasing goes.
i mean i wouldnt say like astral weeks/highway 61 great, nobody will ever be that great, or new ever again. but on SBS tweedy shows that he can color and deliver a set of words better than any single songwriter in the indie music canon today. Its just a shame nobodys going to like it because its "kinda sorta not experimental"

davedestroybox, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm trying to sell a wilco ticket.
sunday 20th may, london shepherds bush.
price: £30 (face value + bf)

reply if you want it.

sorry if sales are not allowed here, but i want to sell to a fan not a tout.

drag ass snag, Thursday, 29 March 2007 11:07 (seventeen years ago) link

they need to do another pop album like summerteeth for me to care again now

akm, Thursday, 29 March 2007 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
this just got mauled on pfm

that won't influence my judgment however, particularly given that i recently saw them play and they were brilliant

Charlie Howard, Monday, 14 May 2007 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link

An Entertainment Weekly writer gave it an A- and compared it to '70s era Eagles(Tweedy as Don Henley). I haven't heard it yet and that comparison does not do too much for me (for others it might).

curmudgeon, Monday, 14 May 2007 13:51 (seventeen years ago) link

It's a very dull record, and occasionally irritatingly predictable and hokey on a melodic level. I loved the deconstructionist urges of the last two, and that's gone. It's very accomplished, just... unexciting, even when they're shredding out solos. Not bad, just... not good.

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 14 May 2007 14:08 (seventeen years ago) link

review in the phoenix:
For the past 11 years, Wilco leader Jeff Tweedy has been trying to carve his band’s image into the Mount Rushmore of Great American Rock, right alongside Creedence Clearwater Revival, the Byrds, the Band, and the Allman Brothers. Now he can lay down his chisel.

I hope the reviewer wipes the cum off the cd before he lends it to friends.

Edward III, Monday, 14 May 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I couldn't imagine a more pointless and horrifying musical goal than that which the reviewer claims for Tweedy.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 May 2007 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Aside from the Allmans I would have to say aspiring to be the Byrds, CCR, or The Band would be a hell of a feat, impossible but admirable. Or maybe its just the constant use of other bands in reviews to get a point across rather than acutally describing the album. I could see how that would be annoying.

ksg, Monday, 14 May 2007 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Aside from the Allmans

Why leave out the Allmans?

In some respects, more bands have failed at matching the Allmans than, say, CCR or even the Byrds. That's why there are so many bad jam-bands, but a significant number of darn good jangle-pop/country-rock bands.

As for Wilco, I've been listening to this new disc, and the jam-rock comparisons are over-played, which makes sense since most of these reviewers have probably never made it through all fours sides of Live Dead or Fillmore East.

QuantumNoise, Monday, 14 May 2007 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I like it and I think it sounds like they've been listening to Roy Wood, the drums remind me of Bev Bevan and there are lumbering guitar boogie licks straight out the the Move's "Shazam." pretty funny.

whisperineddhurt, Monday, 14 May 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I think some of those axe solo kinda have a slo-mo Thin Lizzy vibe.

QuantumNoise, Monday, 14 May 2007 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

It's the only record of theirs I've really liked since Being There/Mermaid Avenues. I like the soft-rockisms -- the
"deconstructionism" of the last two albums felt kinda ersatz and directionless to me. The new one's more fun.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 14 May 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm looking forward to giving this a really solid listen. i'm happy to persist with it if i'm not immediately touched.

i'd like to see people review this record in terms of its own, unique merits. when people assess wilco records, they're always making comparisons to what came before it, how the band has evolved, the repercussions of losing band members and obtaining new ones etc. for better or worse, the band's not on a mission to remake yhf, so constant allusions to that record in the context of discussions of new music is getting more and more pointless.

Charlie Howard, Monday, 14 May 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...

why do wilco members wear long sleeve shirts, and sometimes even a suit above it on their live performence, for example yesterday,in this hot crowded venue at the end of june?
just wonderin'..

Zeno, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 07:21 (sixteen years ago) link

just to enhance the visual chemistry on stage i guess.

works nicely for me

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 07:29 (sixteen years ago) link

The best thing about this album is the guitar solos. I've been wondering lately whether I might have a secret, as-yet-untapped jam-band love considering how much I like it when Wilco and Sonic Youth get all mellowed-out and jammy.

jaymc, Thursday, 28 June 2007 02:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, what do you think of the Dead?

Z S, Thursday, 28 June 2007 02:13 (sixteen years ago) link

This album kind of rules. I bought the vinyl, which sounds soooo amazing. It's the first Wilco album I've ever bought (maybe the first one I've ever heard all the way through?) I bought it cuz I kept hearing them performing the songs on all these radio shows .. i think it was the 'Prarie Home Companion' set that sold me. but anyway, Nels Cline is seriously the star. there are points where he sounds just like my hero John Cipollina but in general he just brings some bite to this band. Tweedy still bugs me -- though sorta hafta admire just how well he has the Lennon phrasing down on this record -- but the band and music really shine.

and yeah, the "Brontosaurus" rip in "Hate It Here" is funny and great.

Stormy Davis, Thursday, 28 June 2007 04:42 (sixteen years ago) link

"The best thing about this album is the guitar solos"

OTM.it's Cline at the peak of his powers,Tom Verline style..
i'd say this:
best album - being there
best production - ghost is born
best playing - sky blue sky (though it has the weakest songs)

Zeno, Thursday, 28 June 2007 10:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I reckon it's a lost John Lennon album from his Wilderness Years.

(That's the second half of the 70s, not 1980 - present day).

Matthew H, Thursday, 28 June 2007 13:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, what do you think of the Dead?

I haven't heard much of the Dead, although the little I have heard has them noodling over pretty basic three-chord blues progressions, so I haven't been too enthralled.

Tom Verlaine is another good example of a jammy guitar soloist I like.

jaymc, Thursday, 28 June 2007 14:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Nice to see people coming around to this disc. Bee OK (who sounds like he or she might be affiliated with Wilco's management team, but I'm guessing) said upthread that BSB is "a very good album." That's right. And it's really the perfect compliment for this record: Humble, succinct and accurate.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 29 June 2007 17:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Oops, I meant "SBS." Sorry.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 29 June 2007 17:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Bee OK (who sounds like he or she might be affiliated with Wilco's management team, but I'm guessing) said upthread that BSB is "a very good album." That's right. And it's really the perfect compliment for this record: Humble, succinct and accurate.

haha, no i have nothing to do with Wilco, Nonesuch, WB or anything else having to do with the business. i'm just a music fan.

Bee OK, Friday, 29 June 2007 20:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Fair enough. And it is a very good album.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 29 June 2007 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link

five months pass...

From FLUXBLOG today:

Some people seem a bit surprised when I tell them Sky Blue Sky is one of my top favorite records from 2007, and maybe a lot of that has to do with the fact that I've barely written about it. It's been a fairly private pleasure for me, particularly over the summer when its calming chords provided some relief from stress and worry. This isn't to say that Sky Blue Sky is an entirely relaxing set of songs -- if anything, I kept going back to it because its emotional state so neatly echoed my own experience of trying to stay cool and collected while quietly freaking out. Most of the worst reviews for the record glibly dismissed the music as "dad rock," which is sort of aggravating because I think that the epithet accidentally touches on the stoicism and maturity that is key to the record's appeal, but favors a kneejerk appreciation of less emotionally (or musically) complicated music. Also, it's a huge mistake to write it off as an album full of wanky, meandering guitar solos. Yes, there's a lot of solos, but they are part of dynamic, meticulously crafted instrumental sections that carry a great deal of the record's emotional weight. The words are fine, and as usual, Tweedy's voice is extremely charismatic and expressive despite his limitations, but for the most part, the major action on the record happens in the instrumental sections -- the climax, the resolution, the postscript. It's both the feelings buried underneath the surface that you can't quite let out, and the things you just can't articulate with words for one reason or another. It's a very sophisticated and subtle work of art, and though it is understandable why so many people would either neglect or dismiss it for not automatically revealing its charms, I promise you that the album has quite a lot to offer.

Yeah!

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 6 December 2007 02:07 (sixteen years ago) link

"Impossible Germany" is one of my favorite songs of the year.

Then again, Wilco is my favorite band.

three handclaps, Thursday, 6 December 2007 02:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Wow Daniel, thanks for posting that Fluxblog piece. Matthew is OTM.

three handclaps, Thursday, 6 December 2007 02:18 (sixteen years ago) link

He is. I like how he describes Sky Blue Sky as "a work of art." That's totally OTM and it makes the rockist in me happy.

What some people miss about this disc is how great the performances are, especially by Nels Cline. The DVD included in the deluxe version of Sky Blue Sky makes this clear; Cline's solo on Impossible Germany (also one of my favorite songs of the year) is breathtaking and dynamic.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 6 December 2007 03:10 (sixteen years ago) link

sky blue sky -
songwriting - mediocre.
instrument playing and production - superb.

Zeno, Thursday, 6 December 2007 04:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I like this. I'll probably never not like anything they do though.

W4LTER, Thursday, 6 December 2007 04:26 (sixteen years ago) link

xp or their biggest transition? i think if you're following Tweedy from the Uncle Tupelo years, Being There is a sort of pinnacle for his alt country sound. I'd say the same for Jay and Trace

Heez, Saturday, 29 January 2022 21:57 (two years ago) link

half of being there is excellent and the other half ranges from not my thing to dull

ufo, Saturday, 29 January 2022 22:01 (two years ago) link

re same chords changes on Being There—yep totally. I don’t hate it though. kinda gives it a thematic Red-Headed Stranger bine

concentrating on Rationality (the book) (will), Saturday, 29 January 2022 22:14 (two years ago) link

Being There (the prototypically erratic double album) is pretty clearly where everything goes widescreen. Power-pop, country, Grateful Dead, Big Star's "Third," etc. Then "Summerteeth" is where it goes Technicolor. "YHF" is where it all falls apart (by deconstructed design). "Ghost" is where even a great band can't quite make up for Tweedy shouldering all the songwriting in addition to a pill addiction. Everything after that is pretty clear-eyed and consistent, and often kind of safe, but there are plenty of weird detours to be found.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 January 2022 22:18 (two years ago) link

vibe*
Xpost

concentrating on Rationality (the book) (will), Saturday, 29 January 2022 22:20 (two years ago) link

(Speaking of Golden Smog's Faces cover, I literally only learned a week or two ago that "Bad Time" by the Jayhawks is actually a Grand Funk cover. I had no idea!)

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 January 2022 22:21 (two years ago) link

idk I'm the boring dude who says exposure to Billy Bragg + Guthrie tightened them

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 January 2022 22:21 (two years ago) link

Lotta fingers in that particular pie.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 January 2022 22:27 (two years ago) link

what i really miss from summerteeth/yhf is the power-pop influence, the tight pop hooks they used to have. it seems like bennett really helped push things in that direction, and then without him around tweedy's interests were firmly elsewhere after yhf.

ufo, Sunday, 30 January 2022 10:00 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I miss that power pop element too. It's even there on Mermaid Avenue Vol. II:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQhk__Ti3pc

birdistheword, Sunday, 30 January 2022 22:07 (two years ago) link

it's really just that the guitar on this record is so fucking amazing, every song's horizons are extended by some sick guitar part

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 31 January 2022 22:28 (two years ago) link

The power pop appeared to come back on the uptempo songs from The Whole Love (and perhaps on You Never Know) but I couldn't help wondering what Jay would have brought to them

It feels like Jeff has fallen back to writing every song in first position on the guitar which to me is making so much of his recent output sound so samey. He's clearly happier keeping vocal pitching fairly low and hushed too

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 01:12 (two years ago) link

Rather than retread old ground, these days I'd just be keen to hear someone come up with some more interesting (and lively) chord changes here and there

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 01:14 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5tmVsUKCiY

this 8 minute "impossible germany" rules

ufo, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 09:30 (two years ago) link

Just fired this up

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 22:57 (two years ago) link

So far: I can totally understand why the me of 2007 loathed this. It’s still not high in my overall Wilco estimation but after a long day of middle management it’s nice enough.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 23:06 (two years ago) link

“Glass of white wine, middle-aged, home alone on a weeknight” Wilco

Otherwise known as Chillco

(I’m not making fun of it anymore than I’m making fun of myself at this age)

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 23:30 (two years ago) link

Oh right, “Leave Me” was always such a pretty song.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 23:33 (two years ago) link

In conclusion: I’m in a mellower place with SBS but it’s still not The Wilco Album I Reach For Automatically.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 23:42 (two years ago) link

i think Sky Blue Sky is vastly underrated. i felt it was an album that had Wilco hit their stride. i understand that is not like by most of their older fans but think it is their lost. it really has some of their more solid songs but most people just say that it's dad rock, so whatever.

― Bee OK, Wednesday, May 6, 2009 9:11 PM (twelve years ago)

i pretty much stand by that and i have been wanting to listen to this present day to see how i feel

good revival series for Wilco Brad, it has been fun to read #originalthread

Bee OK, Thursday, 3 February 2022 05:12 (two years ago) link

i just remembered that years back when i worked at my college radio station we got the promo copy. i let my grad colleague hear it first because he'd been a bigger wilcohead and his immediate review was so lackluster that i'd never heard the album. what are the best YHF/AGIB type tracks?

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 3 February 2022 07:55 (two years ago) link

none of it really sounds much like yhf but none of it is too far from most of the mellower tracks on agib. just listen to "impossible germany"

ufo, Thursday, 3 February 2022 08:08 (two years ago) link

it's not the most agib-like track (idk which is exactly) but it's the album's defining moment

ufo, Thursday, 3 February 2022 08:15 (two years ago) link

Do they ever not play Impossible Germany outside of album shows?

PaulTMA, Thursday, 3 February 2022 16:05 (two years ago) link

I don't know if this is their best record (probably Mermaid Avenue for me) but it's the only one I still listen to, and didn't get bored of.

This post was OTM

Oh man, why can't the whole album sound like the middle two minutes of 'You Are My Face'? Christ, why couldn't the whole of 'You Are My Face' sound like that?
― G00blar, Monday, March 12, 2007 1:13 AM (fourteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 3 February 2022 21:54 (two years ago) link

Do they ever not play Impossible Germany outside of album shows?

I'm not sure about more recently, but it did get played outside of album shows now and then. The band recently issued a box set of shows from the Capitol Theatre from 2014 where it was played.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2022 22:58 (two years ago) link

they haven't played it at every show ever since its release but it's pretty close

ufo, Thursday, 3 February 2022 23:03 (two years ago) link

possible and likely at every show

I know we will continue to be a power couple (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 4 February 2022 02:01 (two years ago) link

I got the impression it has got to the stage where there'd be riots if they didn't

PaulTMA, Friday, 4 February 2022 12:01 (two years ago) link


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