Sonic Youth new album "Rather Ripped"

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SY havent got any weak album, and i hope the new one wont change it. heard one track performed live (without o'rourke) and it was energetic (much more than anything from "Sonic Nurse") quite simple and catchy.

Squeegee Boy, Sunday, 26 March 2006 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link

The new kind of rock is obviously going to be....

smoove.

Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Sunday, 26 March 2006 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Michael McDonald on bass, btw

Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Sunday, 26 March 2006 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link

"Skunk" Youth

Zwan (miccio), Sunday, 26 March 2006 23:05 (eighteen years ago) link

If they had any brains they'd fill Jim O'Rourke's spot with Christine McVie.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 26 March 2006 23:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe, but Lindsey Buckingham would totally be up for that gig.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 26 March 2006 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Lindsey would be too fuckin' weird for Thurston and Lee.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 27 March 2006 00:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Pretty excited about it. I'll probably buy it first day it comes out. I owe them that much.

Mr. Silverback (Mr. Silverback), Monday, 27 March 2006 00:11 (eighteen years ago) link

well the first disappointment is that its not out on 6/6/6.

-- brontosaur (blancounderscoreguillerm...), March 26th, 2006.

Satan Is Boring

latebloomer: My name *COCKS SHOTGUN* is Horace! (latebloomer), Monday, 27 March 2006 01:09 (eighteen years ago) link

sonoc youth ran out of good ideas years ago.
why should tgis record be better?!
the only optimism comes from the fact that it supposed to "rock" which is good, for a young band, less for sonic "youth".

dietr, Monday, 27 March 2006 03:20 (eighteen years ago) link

yes,i'd "rather rip" this album instead of buying it.

xwert, Monday, 27 March 2006 03:56 (eighteen years ago) link

They have made some good records without O'Rourke before.

Please choose one: Understatement of a) the thread, b) ILM, c) the western world.

Edward III (edward iii), Monday, 27 March 2006 13:57 (eighteen years ago) link

we shall see...as always w/ those peeps.
that said, if Nurse was any indicator, i'll be pleased.

eedd, Monday, 27 March 2006 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think they've made a bad record yet and I see no reason why this might change.

Yes, that's quite a forumla they've got there.

Black Star, Monday, 27 March 2006 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm excited.

i think the title is funny! neat!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 27 March 2006 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

The cover are is great for sure.i thought it's a toilet for a second there.
http://rateyourmusic.com/album_images/o409133.jpg

samuell the puller, Monday, 27 March 2006 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Kinda minimal, huh?

To digress: anybody remember Rather Ripped records in Berkely? Alas, I never shopped there, but used to order from their catalog. Maybe the coolest store in America at one time, they were the hook-up for obscure imports and indies, and were probably the Residents' exclusive retail outlet for awhile. Subject of a notorious bootleg bust in the 70s, too. I hope the SY title is a tribute.

brianiast (briania), Monday, 27 March 2006 16:04 (eighteen years ago) link

I understand the need for people to make threads about anticipated albums, but not the length to which people will bother discussing it before hearing so much as a single. Most of SY's last few albums have been preceded by live shows where they play instrumental versions of the songs they're working on, have they done any of that this time? If nothing like that is out there, I'll probably wait til June to have any kind of opinion.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Monday, 27 March 2006 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link

http://rateyourmusic.com/album_images/o409133.jpg

willem -- (willem), Monday, 27 March 2006 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link

one more time
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/989/o4091334ry.jpg

willem -- (willem), Monday, 27 March 2006 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I liked the 'Beige Album' concept better.

Big Willy and the Twins (miloaukerman), Monday, 27 March 2006 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

do we really need the cover posted three times?

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 27 March 2006 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

The only time I don't see a solid pea-soup-colored square where I should see an album cover is Willem's last post.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 27 March 2006 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

weird

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 27 March 2006 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Some hatin' ass music fans up in here. Can we at least wait for a single before we rip it to shreds?

jonviachicago, Monday, 27 March 2006 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

we rather rip it to shredsl, yeah.
(whats with those "Blondie" connections all the time?)

sam the puller, Monday, 27 March 2006 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link

title and album cover are Truly Terrible

ath (ath), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

the cover sort of reminds me of the last blonde redhead album in a way.

i like it.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:29 (eighteen years ago) link

gah! worst SY cover art ever! and the font is terrible as well!

geeta (geeta), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link

ill give you the font geeta, but i kinda like the art...

bb (bbrz), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link

you're more forgiving than i am, then. it looks like a lame stab at surrealism as slapped together in photoshop in thirty minutes.

they should get pettibon to do their album covers again.

geeta (geeta), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Or Gerhard Richter.

I actually don't mind the cover, though.

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:56 (eighteen years ago) link

it looks like a rejected Luna cover. For an Australian-only single. From 1994.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link

"Or Gerhard Richter"

last good cover, last good album! *runs really fast from delusional sy fanz. never to return. i promise*

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Ot kind of surprises me that people can be even be bothered with caring about whether SY's album covers or titles (or even song titles) suck (the lyrics sucking, however, is a little more distracting). And I don't mean that in some digital age album-covers-are-irrelevent way, I just mean a few exceptions aside, the packaging and titles of SY records have never really impressed me, and are usually pretty incedental to how I perceive the music, somehow moreso than most other artists.

I mean, I don't dislike the covers (or titles) of Bad Moon Rising, Dirty, Jet Set, A Thousand Leaves, or Sonic Nurse, to name a few, but I don't think of them as "good" cover art/titles, either.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link

alex in baltimore, this one is actually that bad.

ath (ath), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Like, remember when they were working on A Thousand Leaves, and Thurston told SPIN that the title was going to be Ham Radio and the cover art would be "a picture of Sally Kirkland riding naked on a rather large hog"? I would've been fine with that. (x-post)

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link

ath, but is it worse than NYC Ghosts + Flowers?

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah

ath (ath), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link

oh for fuck's sake, just look at it for a minute:

http://img186.exs.cx/img186/4378/sonicyouthnyc2jh.jpg

although I have to admit, the way the "u" in Youth is directly below the "n" in Sonic as almost a mirror image is really striking, they should totally use that font for a logo on other stuff.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I like the cover of Murray Street a lot.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

me too. although the back cover would be a lot better if the top 'one way' sign wasn't so obviously photoshopped in and looked more real.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Day Dreamnation - sister - evol - goo - best covers/best records.
so if "rather ripped" cover sucks...

concomn, Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link

It's true -- Sonic Youth's career is filled with crappy cover art. Their only half-decent covers are "Daydream Nation" and "Experimental Jet Set, Trash and No Star".

"A Thousand Leaves" is the every defintion of "crappy Photoshop job".

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I like that cover

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link

NYC Ghosts + Flowers cover was at least sorta cool cause it looked like it was 3D glasses compatible, and the skeleton had two gap-shadow boners. The Rather Ripped cover could be a Billy Corgan solo cover. I dunno, is it??

ath (ath), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I like the cover of Rather Ripped! It seems vaguely similar to the cover of A Thousand Leaves.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:59 (eighteen years ago) link

it looks like a lame stab at surrealism as slapped together in photoshop in thirty minutes.

does surrealism own the copyright on images of the human eye or something? I think you're bringin' your own baggage to the table g

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

they should get pettibon to do their album covers again.

Well, haven't they made a point of having different artists do the covers of the records rather than repeating the same people?

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link

They should get me pretending to be Pettibon to do their album cover.

Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link

If that is true, it's too bad they didn't make 'Sister' louder in the mix! that record is about 100x better than 'Experimental Jet Set...' was. I don't think I've listened to the latter album since it came out.

geeta, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

it's true. turn up "Winner's Blues" real loud and you can hear "Schizophrenia." reusing master tapes was not unusual in the analog era.

a http://bit.ly/kv895M (some dude), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

geeta you shld re-listen to experimental jet set! its good!

just sayin, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

you shoudl alwyas store yoru tapes fast forwarded to the end so you dont get magnetic bleed through "preecho"

Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

Had a good chat with his nibs this evening. I forgot what some of the questions were (gutted about forgetting to ask about aTelecine) but he did have this to say:

Was Jim O’Rourke the catalyst for Murray Street and Sonic Nurse?
Thurston Moore: He was kind of a catalyst for those records... only because he brought a new voice into the group which at the time was really... shocking. Because we were in this place where we could never have imagined someone else coming into our group and actually sort of working within just how strange the group is. Both Kim and I are kind of coming out of a place where we taught ourselves. We’re just not traditional players but Lee and Steve have a much more... uh... they have chops! Jim came in and he was able to be this creative balance between these two aspects to the band. He’s someone who has a very intensified musical language. He’s a great, great player but at the same time he understood the wildness that Kim and I had. He could be a really great bridge [between these aspects] and it really excited us. It did influence the song writing. We wanted him to get involved with that process, so sure, there were some catalytic elements to his involvement with those records.

And he confirmed the Sister/Experimental Jet Set tape thing. He said you need to be wearing headphones, have it turned up loud and it's only really on the gaps between a couple of songs where you can hear it but it's there.

PG Harpy (Doran), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 02:54 (twelve years ago) link

Nice! Thanks for posting the bit about Jim. I'm a big pro-Jim era SY guy.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 04:41 (twelve years ago) link

super cool--thanks!

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 04:56 (twelve years ago) link

thurston definitely used an acoustic for 'or' in 2006.

matt h, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 09:40 (twelve years ago) link

ok cool, thanks!

a http://bit.ly/kv895M (some dude), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 11:25 (twelve years ago) link

Definitive answers to burning questions--love it

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, we should just get thurston to come to ilm so he can answer these questions whenever we want. "why have you not played 'mary christ' since 1992?!"

tylerw, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

haha i bet he'd post exactly like skot

a http://bit.ly/kv895M (some dude), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

we should get lee to post to ILM...i'd be more psyched for that. he once offered to write an article for me, when i was freaking out about it.

geeta, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

i would ask one of those guys if the record is named after the store

http://www.dedicatedfool.com/

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

"Jams Run Free" is still so wonderful.

Raymond Cummings, Saturday, 9 March 2013 00:15 (eleven years ago) link

for real

some dude, Saturday, 9 March 2013 00:22 (eleven years ago) link

Still p sure this is my favorite SY record front to back.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 March 2013 00:22 (eleven years ago) link

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"Rather Ripped" is the new title? Seriously?
I hope Thurston hasn't been pumping iron with Bobby Bonds! lol

I see M. Perpetua posts here, august company indeed!

― Wrinklepaws (Wrinklepaws), Thursday, March 30, 2006 11:11 AM (6 years ago)

Oh, Wrinklepaws.

this is a very good album, their most concise & focused imo. I still like Bad Moon Rising more.

sleeve, Saturday, 9 March 2013 02:52 (eleven years ago) link

it's def the best late-period SY album

congratulations (n/a), Saturday, 9 March 2013 03:01 (eleven years ago) link

eh it's my least fav of the last 4. still pretty good though.

some dude, Saturday, 9 March 2013 03:03 (eleven years ago) link

I used to prefer Sonic Nurse but not anymore; the last few tracks slay me.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 March 2013 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

God, was Wrinklepaws really 7 years ago?

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 March 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

least fave of last 4 for me also but still pretty great. man these guys are really done huh?

balls, Saturday, 9 March 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

eight years pass...

fuck, 15 years

sleeve, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 00:15 (two years ago) link

Mentioned seeing them upthread for this tour in Seattle, and that was the last time I did see them out of three total (first in 1999 just post-instrument theft, second at Terrastock 5 with O'Rourke doing all of Murray Street, then this show post-O'Rourke). Good way to bow out, really.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 03:19 (two years ago) link

Very fond memories of them playing in Reno for this tour on 4 July. "Jams Run Free" a definite highlight of the set — but the last song was "Shaking Hell" played behind a projection of dark psychedelic inverted color fireworks interspersed with bomb footage.

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 05:09 (two years ago) link

Only time I ever saw SY live was on this tour, and it was also the only time I've ever visited NYC (saw them at McCarren Pool). Kind of ideal imo.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 11:56 (two years ago) link

Saw them in South Burlington, VT, IIRC in the middle or aftermath of a snowstorm. My second and last time after a free Central Park show in 2002. I remember gangly Thurston saying "hello Brattleboro" at the beginning and sticking his tongue out and all excited to accept pictures given by young people near the stage. Kim looked very tired and did not speak to the audience, as best I can recall. In retrospect it seemed like a harbinger of things to come.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 17:01 (two years ago) link

Can report a similar dynamic at the show we saw. Thurston had brought an open beer on stage with him, which seemed to be much to Lee's chagrin. Perhaps also explains why "Jams Run Free" and "Shaking Hell" ruled so hard, as it was Kim's chance to steal the show. Which she did with ease.

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link


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