― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 01:38 (eighteen years ago) link
Ebay. I think a Revox A77 might be a good bet that's not too expensive. I have a huge boat anchor of a Studer mono B67 that I don't know how to get rid of if you want to take it off my hands.
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 01:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― amon (eman), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 01:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 01:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― amon (eman), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 02:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― simon 803 (simon 803), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 12:32 (eighteen years ago) link
if you are lucky enough to track one down, you could buy the tdk endless cassette - a tape loop cassette. fantastic things.
it's got absolutely nothing to do with pauline oliveros mind you.
― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:34 (eighteen years ago) link
for example you can take the playback head out of an ordinary walkman and do some pierre boulez type stuff -- cut up a cassette tape and past the pieces onto a board, then run the head the over the pieces. it takes some practice, but you can do it.
― Dan Gr (certain), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link
these digital kids thinking their doing all this hot loop stuff on their laptops or these pedal heads with the ubiquitous samplers... they all sound the same and almost all are derivative.
― Dan Gr (certain), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Old School (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link
You mean Pierre Schaeffer? Or perhaps Pierre Henry? Confusing isn't it?
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Gr (certain), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Gr (certain), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Old School (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:12 (eighteen years ago) link
someone at the 1958 world's fair cut up bits of tape and mounted them on the wall. then invited viewers to run playback heads over the tape manually.
― Dan Gr (certain), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:17 (eighteen years ago) link
trivia time! Sender's son Johnny Sender was the bass player for Konk and now works with Bruce Smith from the Pop Group. He's also a great disco/hip-hop/latin DJ.
If you want to really do tape music...THE machine to use is the Otari MX-5050. That's what we were trained on at Oberlin, it's the standard in all studios, Jim O'Rourke had 2 of them when he still did everything by tape, etc.
Of course you can use any old piece of junk, Radio Shack used to sell splicing blocks and tape. The only other tool you need is a grease pencil to mark up the tape. The trick about tape loops with reel-to-reels and why it's not as easy to do it with cassettes is that in the cassette player, which is basically two reels in a little plastic case, the reel spins and pulls the tape, but in a reel-to-reel, there's a thing called the Capstan that pulls the tape through, and the reel just spins to pick up the slack, but isn't needed.
When I was an electronic music major at the Oberlin Conservatory, our first assignment was Musique Concrete. We went around with a cassette deck and recorded sounds, then transferred them to the Otari, then went back and forth between the Otari and some sort of 8track I don't remember. Tape loops, splices, speeding up and slowing down, etc. I think I taped some tape to a pencil and tried to play it on the head like Laurie Anderson (or Severed Heads on Exploring the Secrets of Treating Deaf Mutes)
http://cgi.ebay.com/OTARI-MX5050-BIII-2-Track-Analog-Tape-Recorder_W0QQitemZ7356963101QQcategoryZ15199QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link
You should start hanging out at Harvest Works and see if they'll let you take the old tape decks out of the closet.
http://harvestworks.org/
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost
― mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Old School (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Gr (certain), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 15:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Old School (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Analog-Siemens-Tape-Delay-Kraftwerk-style-echo-moog_W0QQitemZ7357184902QQcategoryZ17401QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
― zappi (joni), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Gr (certain), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:23 (eighteen years ago) link
Not like I'm going back to tape, ever, but...
fifty bucks!
― milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 22:07 (eighteen years ago) link
surreal
― milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 22:33 (eighteen years ago) link
God, I am SO old . . . . sigh.
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 23:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Milton Babbitt, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:39 (eighteen years ago) link
that was Nam June Paik - the year is probably right, i wasn't aware of it being at a world's fair though.
i just wanted to add that mellotrons do not use tape loops- they cut off after about 10 seconds.
― tremspeed, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link
http://youtu.be/7AJX4flkK_w
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 1 May 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link
https://vimeo.com/53891959
― am0n, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link