Matias Aguayo

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I think that this is the worst Kompakt record I've ever heard. I'm not exaggerating!

Lion-O (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link

! :-D

*hovers on 'buy' button*

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Only buy it if you've got loads of money to spend on bad records!

Lion-O (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link

what turned you around 180? the dodgy lyrics?

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:11 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah this feels very slight to me. which is a shame because the closer music album is very much the best artist lp kompakt has released

strng hlkngtn: what does it mean? (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link

what turned you around 180?

1. I'm one of the most fickle people on this board.
2. Maybe the lyrics, yes.
3. it only has two half-decent songs on it.

Lion-O (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, I can't really afford it this week anyway. Perhaps I'll download it first for once (I've just been listening to those samples linked above).

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I just heard this last night and tracks 2 and 3 seemed to bring things around a bit for me after the really bad opener. Beyond track 3, it seems to kind of float along without further development, but maybe some of it will grow on me with a few more listens.

Nowhere near the quality of the Closer Music and Ferenc albums, both of which still baffle me because they're two of the strongest full-lengths in Kompakt's entire catalog, and yet they've both been pretty much ignored (especially the Closer Music album).

But there is no way this is as bad as the recent Justus Kohncke album, i.e. two great tracks surrounded by absolute rubbish....

jsoulja (jsoulja), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I love Doppelben! The Ferenc is a real grower.

Lion-O (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Doppelben too actually! Especially the Carly Simon cover.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I am still puzzled by this CD. This excerpt from the press release is hilarious though:

"Anyone who drives faster than 125 will be pulled over, enjoy the journey around 119 bpm, as the sweat will drench your body equally as much if you were travelling this fantastic road at a faster speed and you are destined to come out of it reeking of great sex"

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 15 October 2005 22:54 (eighteen years ago) link

What are the "three good tracks" incidentally?

I'll take a guess at 'De Papel', 'Drums & Feathers' and 'New Life'?

The whole thing sounds almost like the exact opposite of the Closer Musik stuff to me, and in a good way. I'll save the tedious explanations why until I've actually y'know, heard it. I'm not going to write this off. I think it might actually be good and there be wrongness abounding on this thread!.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 15 October 2005 23:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I still really like like album after many listens. Well stands as one of my favorite songs of the year. De Papel,Drums & Feathers,So In Love, and Radiotax;i all I have used in sets I've played. These songs work well as tracks or layers in sets. The only song I find awkward is Are You Really Lost, the chanting sort of annoys me. Still I love closer musik a little more, but I'm trying to not compare the two so much.
xpost I also like Doppelben even the pop songs.

Jacobs (LolVStein), Saturday, 15 October 2005 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I liked Kaito more than the Closer Musik album but I guess that's a different can of worms entirely.

deej.. (deej..), Saturday, 15 October 2005 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I remember when I thought it was cool Kompakt had a spiky underground English guitar band on the label, broad church & all that.

But that was KaitO. Silly me.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 15 October 2005 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link

i love this album. press the 'buy now' button! miles better than the justus albums. usually vocals drive me crazy but something about his lyrics/delivery brings me joy.

biz, Sunday, 16 October 2005 03:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I love this one too. Sleek, spartan, empty.

It's the Ferenc album I'm not really getting (I mean it's good but never really leaves an impression.)


Omar (Omar), Sunday, 16 October 2005 07:29 (eighteen years ago) link

i agree with omar. what's weird is that you could use sleek, spartan and empty as negative connotations for the ferenc album and positive for aguayo. it's the beats. the ferenc album feels parochial whereas the aguayo feels open and now.

both doppelleben and are you really lost? are fantastic though. hard to pick between the two.

kompakt is turning into warp. (if it hasn't already)

tricky (disco stu), Sunday, 16 October 2005 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link

ahaha. It totally is already I think.

Especially if you consider the respective mp3 shops & the other labels they take under their wing or help distribute.

fandango (fandango), Sunday, 16 October 2005 15:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Now we just have to wait for Thom Yorke to declare his love for Kompakt to bring us full circle.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 16 October 2005 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Next Radiohead album will start with two gauzy foggy tech-house tracks with Thom singing in German.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 16 October 2005 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Yet you could still imagine them singing it in a stadium.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 17 October 2005 03:15 (eighteen years ago) link

This is great... weird and original!

login name (fandango), Friday, 28 October 2005 13:49 (eighteen years ago) link

This album comes in the middle of the electro house fuzz ... like fresh air to my ears.

ifeelspace, Friday, 28 October 2005 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Since it hasn't been mentioned before, there's a 5-hour DJ set with Matias Aguayo and Chica Paula at Betalounge, dated January 15, 2005. It's a very nice and diverse set, and if anyone recognizes the track at 3:33, please let know!

Jena (JenaP), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Is that 3 hours and 33 minutes? :)

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link

yep, any ideas as to what that may be?

Jena (JenaP), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd also like to mention that I'm quite happy with the way Realplayer streams are growing in bitrate these days, that set comes in at a steady 135 kbps, which renders it almost rippable.

Jena (JenaP), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

mmmm yes this album is very very good, much love for "Well" as well.

deej.. (deej..), Sunday, 30 October 2005 03:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I did an interview via email with Aguayo a couple of weeks ago. It's on a swedish website but the Q and A is still in english. Go here if you are interested:

http://www.digfi.com/default.aspx?id=8051

emil, Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link

thanks for that :)

This record is one of the few times where no writer-type seems to have quite nailed and described exactly the same thing I'm hearing in anything I've read, or maybe they have but it's all in bits & pieces.

I dunno, the sweatiness and sexiness is there. In how the slow tempo almost seem to reflect a need to move, but not any kind of hyperactive exertion. That would kill you in the heat. I love how organic this all feels, like it's been made out in the desert, with whatever pots & pans shit was close to hand, far away from any kind of regular electronic studio... in fact the whole thing feels spicy & heat-soaked, burning up, dusty... almost tribal, but without the usual 'banging'-ness. I guess the 'not driving too fast' thing in the press release reflects that 'road movie' feel. I mean 'So In Love' just has that vibe of someone totally losing their shit as some crazy unexpected affair is about to end, or leave that insane level of intial unsustainable pleausure. It hasn't quite happened yet, but it's subconsciously approaching.

I like the Closer Musik stuff I've heard too, but it's SO different to this. When that's minimal it's all cold, considered, worried & twitchy, and what warmth there is, is very much that detroitian electronic kind of 'warmth'. It's a completely urban record, albeit still one with hurt feelings.

Worst song, played on ugliest guitar (fandango), Sunday, 13 November 2005 04:51 (eighteen years ago) link

The fingerclicks in 'Drums and Feathers' (and that ever so slight fade (echo?) after, like it's been recorded plain, and live in an empty space) sound like they'd absolutely KILL played loud over the right system.

Worst song, played on ugliest guitar (fandango), Sunday, 13 November 2005 05:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i played "drums and feathers" out the other night, and you're right.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Sunday, 13 November 2005 13:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I played 'Radiotaxi' in a set of mainly older electro/disco/proto-house and it worked well. It mixes nicely with 'Bring Down the Walls' by Mr. Fringers/Robert Owens.

Jacobs (LolVStein), Sunday, 13 November 2005 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Interesting. I mixed "De Papel" with Mr Fingers "Gallimaufry Gallery" the other day. Went down very well.

Tobias Rapp (Tobias Rapp), Sunday, 13 November 2005 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Fantastic album. Really.

Tobias Rapp (Tobias Rapp), Sunday, 13 November 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I've been back and forth with this album and can't decide whether the sultriness of it is fantastic or just kind of silly. Regardless, I'm surprised as to the amount of coverage it's receiving, even for a Kompakt release. (Ref: Andy Kellman's review on allmusic for the most insight and melodrama. It's on the Spotlight today. You'd think Closer Musik's break-up was of Morrissey/Marr proportions.)

Also, what kind of house is this exactly? Is it house? Minimal techno? Is it the trendy Ketamine House? Or a new, sleazier K-Y House? Discuss further please- it's still not clear to me....

jsoulja (jsoulja), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Re-post.

jsoulja (jsoulja), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link

"drums and feathers" is definately the club track.

dd_____ (dayvidday), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I think this album has more in common with Adonis, Jamie Principle, Ron Hardy, than Dominik Eulberg or M.A.N.D.Y. I'm not saying it's retro or nostalgic, it doesn't sound like Chicago House, but it kind of feels like it at times

Jacobs (LolVStein), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I get the Jamie Principle and Adonis references, but there seems to be less soul here.

Plus, I think maybe Chicago House is to Matias Aguayo as Sounding Sexy is to Trying To Sound Sexy.

But that might be a little harsh.

jsoulja (jsoulja), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:38 (eighteen years ago) link

ouch

Jacobs (LolVStein), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I've had this for a week now and I think it's brilliant. Very brooding and almost menacing in places. Just right. Take away "The Green and the Red" and the title track and it's perfect to my ears.

matt2 (matt2), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah I was hoping to broaden the discussion on this record a bit, but nobody seems interested. The electronic bent ILMers are kind of absent lately maybe? Or maybe no one likes this record. Or maybe it's the time of year when everyone is content with

"Hey have you heard this remix? So fantastic!"

"Yeah, it is."

"Me, too."

jsoulja (jsoulja), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

"Could you YSI it, pleaze?"

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:40 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
So I'm still listening to this and still loving it. What does he use for the deep gurgly sound on New Life? I have no technical knowledge.

matt2 (matt2), Friday, 13 January 2006 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

The bonus version of "De Papel" never fails to make me roffle in a good way.

fandango (fandango), Friday, 13 January 2006 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I *really* want to love this, but I can't!

adamrl (nordicskilla), Friday, 13 January 2006 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Do you like it?

fandango (fandango), Friday, 13 January 2006 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

...not really...

adamrl (nordicskilla), Friday, 13 January 2006 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link

i'll prob end up filing it alongside mungolian jet set

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 08:56 (fourteen years ago) link

a/k/a one of the best dance releases of the year??

Tim F, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:01 (fourteen years ago) link

ha no, in that the amazing sounds battle with the bits that make me flinch and i end up not going back to it to sort out which are which

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:03 (fourteen years ago) link

best dance release of year sooo omar-s for me, and i think the new redshape may end up alongside it

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:04 (fourteen years ago) link

oh and black meteoric star!!! yes.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean if we're talking house/techno end not funky/dubstep/wvs.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:04 (fourteen years ago) link

srsly this aguayo album could be so much better if the amount of "spooky" voices was halved or possibly quartered, that fluttering synth marimba melody at the end of "desde rusia" is pretty irresistible

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:07 (fourteen years ago) link

they're a lot better when they actually break into a proper vocal chant as on "ritmo juárez" rather than doing that constant sub-beatboxing shite

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:08 (fourteen years ago) link

haven't heard this yet but lex totally otm about the MJS record

on a top secret challops mission in contraristan (The Reverend), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:17 (fourteen years ago) link

The MJS vocals kind of split between awful and intrusive and annoying (Could You Be Loved, Milano Model) and perfect for the record (Creepy, Ocean 0304).

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:20 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I'm really enjoying this on first listen - I don't hear the vocals as "comedy voices" at all and certainly not in the Mungolian Jet Set way.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Sunday, 15 November 2009 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link

anyone go to fabric on saturday?

djh, Sunday, 15 November 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

they're a lot better when they actually break into a proper vocal chant as on "ritmo juárez" rather than doing that constant sub-beatboxing shite

― lex pretend, Tuesday, October 13, 2009 2:08 AM (1 month ago)

Beatboxing is sub-Ay Ay Ay shite imo

throwbookatface (skygreenleopard), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link

sat 12th december
ALLEZ-ALLEZ PRESENTS
MATIAS AGUAYO
SHUMI (KOMPAKT)
CARGO, LONDON

Tannenbaum Schmidt, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:24 (fourteen years ago) link

enjoying this record a lot i must say. dew dew dew dew dew dew deeewwww deeeewwww

Roz, Friday, 4 December 2009 07:07 (fourteen years ago) link

It's essentially acapella house music, isn't it? I like this record best when there are no instruments involved at all, just the sound of voices imitating the clicks and snaps and detuning pling plong noises you'd treat as standard in minimal. It feeds perfectly into my argument upthread about Aguayo totally getting the inherent silliness and ridiculousness of even the most po-faced European techno.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Friday, 4 December 2009 10:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I like this a lot too. One of the most refreshing records I've heard in a while.

J4mi3 H4rl3y (Snowballing), Friday, 4 December 2009 12:00 (fourteen years ago) link

like this a lot but up there with Are you really lost and After Love? Not quite sure.

Pedro Paramore (jim), Friday, 4 December 2009 12:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't really think I've given this a fair shake yet but up to now... hasn't really clicked like I would have expected, am a bit on the fence :/

fndgo, Saturday, 5 December 2009 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link

(also)

fndgo, Saturday, 5 December 2009 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Mix:

http://soundcloud.com/sampler_podcast01

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 9 March 2012 10:50 (twelve years ago) link

He does a remix on the new Afro-Colombian comp on Soul Jazz called "Jende Ri Palenge". The whole collection is great, and it's worth much more than a Matias obscurity.

ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Sunday, 11 March 2012 02:02 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...
two years pass...
three years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg9yZsp8CCM

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 13:37 (five years ago) link

still nuts, then.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 15:39 (five years ago) link

Great track

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 16:56 (five years ago) link

kind of falling off the mati aguayo train in recent years. will give this a listen later

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 16:58 (five years ago) link

video better than track

or something, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 17:04 (five years ago) link


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