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Sway #1 -- somewhere, Mick Taylor is saying "told ya so, woodie's a bloody mascot's what he is..."

rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 00:42 (eighteen years ago) link

1. Can't you hear me
2. Sway
(i'm sorry, i don't really know the rest of it, but i'm confident nothing will come before these two).

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 00:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm sorta surprised by the general (relative) disdain for "I Got The Blues."

Me too. It's a great track.

10th best song on Sticky Fingers >>>>>>>>>> 99.999% rest of shit ever recorded.

Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 01:56 (eighteen years ago) link

whats with the lack of love for sister morphine?

chris andrews (fraew), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 03:33 (eighteen years ago) link

1. Sway
2. Wild Horses
3. Moonlight Mile
4. Can't You Hear Me Knocking
5. Brown Sugar
6. Dead Flowers
7. Sister Morphine
8. I Got the Blues
9. Bitch
10. You Gotta Move

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 04:37 (eighteen years ago) link

ha, I actually heard this for the first time in a while just last night; well, the first three songs anyway. They put it on at my local before they kicked everyone out (it wasn't that late -- the staff wanted to adjourn to attend a going away party for a fellow bartender. fair enough.) And this is a bar that normally plays like, Coldplay, U2 and the Police. So nice to hear some actually rock in there. And god, when "Sway" came on it sounded so amazing, as always.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 04:45 (eighteen years ago) link

1. Sway
2. Bitch
3. Can't You Hear Me Knocking?
4. Moonlight Mile
5. Wild Horses
6. I Got The Blues
7. Brown Sugar
8. Sister Morphine
9. Dead Flowers
10. You Got To Move

Flyboy (Flyboy), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 11:41 (eighteen years ago) link

This is pretty much my favorite album, ever, so I can't rank the songs. I will, however, list 10 great moments:

1. Keith joining Mick on the last verse of "Brown Sugar"
2. The strings at the end of "Sway"
3. The delicate 3-guitar intro to "Wild Horses"
4. Hearing Mick yell "Hey" down in the mix at the beginning of the jam part of "CYHMK"
5. The drums in "You Gotta Move"
6. The horn riff on "Bitch"
7. The emotional build-up in the last verse of "I Got the Blues"
8. Ry Cooder's slide solo on "Sister Morphine"
9. The "with a needle and a spoon" line in "Dead Flowers"
10. "YEAHHH...I'M COMING HOME" at the end of "Moonlight Mile"

Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 11:47 (eighteen years ago) link

1. Dead Flowers
2. Brown Sugar
3. Sway
4. Moonlight Mile
5. Bitch
6. I Got The Blues
7. Sister Morphine
8. You Gotta Move
9. Can You Hear Me Knocking?
10. Wild Horses

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 11:57 (eighteen years ago) link

1. Wild Horses
2. Moonlight Mile
3. Dead Flowers
4. Brown Sugar
5. Sister Morphine
6. I Got The Blues
7. Can't You Hear Me Knocking
8. Sway
9. You Gotta Move
10. Bitch

Patrick (Patrick), Thursday, 11 August 2005 00:22 (eighteen years ago) link

1. Wild Horses
2. Dead Flowers
3. Moonlight Mile
4. Sister Morphine
5. You Gotta Move
6. Sway
7. Can't You Hear Me Knocking
8. Brown Sugar
9. Bitch
10. I Got the Blues

-vest, Thursday, 11 August 2005 01:09 (eighteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

As posted in the US Tour announcement today on FB:

The tour will also coincide with the Rolling Stones re-release of Sticky Fingers on May 26 in North America, and May 25 in the rest of the world, by Universal Music. Sticky Fingers, one of the most revered albums from the Rolling Stones, is set to enthrall a new generation of fans in 2015. The 1971 classic features timeless tracks such as ‘Brown Sugar,’ ‘Wild Horses,’ ‘Bitch’ and ‘Dead Flowers’. Sticky Fingers 2015, with its iconic zip cover, will be unveiled in a variety of formats. The deluxe editions include a generous selection of previously unreleased Stones studio outtakes from the Sticky Fingers sessions and stunning live performances from that time. These sought after tracks have never been available until this release.
Recorded in Muscle Shoals, Alabama and Olympic Studios in London, and produced by regular confidant Jimmy Miller, Sticky Fingers was released just before the Stones became tax exiles in the south of France, leaving Britain after a sensational farewell tour. It also featured some of the most ground breaking design in rock history, with its famous working zip on the front cover and artwork by Andy Warhol.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link

Having just attended last night's glorified DVD projection of Led Zep concert footage ('Fathom' theater 'events' ... of course Peter Grant era branding company was called 'Superhype' - indeed!), which seemingly was out just to promote the 40th anniversary 'Super Deluxe' Physical Graffiti box set, color me surprised.

BlackIronPrison, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link

Calling it a Zip Code Tour because the cover of yr album 40 yrs ago had a zipper on it is some cold-blooded laziness, even for the Stones.

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link

Dead Flowers
Sway
Wild horses
Moonlight mile
Can you hear me knocking?
Bitch
I got the blues
Brown sugar

You gotta move

primal, intuitive, and relatively unmediated (Treeship), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 20:37 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrsToLa3XEo

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 May 2015 00:23 (eight years ago) link

I refuse to put You Gotta Move last for anything!

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 28 May 2015 00:28 (eight years ago) link

Jagger discusses the composition and recording of "Moonlight Mile" at length:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/mick-jagger-and-moonlight-mile-1432735648

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 May 2015 17:36 (eight years ago) link

oh man I love Dead Flowers so much - where is that version from? doesn't quite have the laid back swing of the official version. I've always liked to think of it as future old rich asshole Jagger singing to young junkie asshole Jagger

Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 17:53 (eight years ago) link

I believe that "Dead Flowers" is a live in the studio run through-- the official lit is calling it "The Byrd's Version" because Taylor is playing a 12-string or something.

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 May 2015 18:01 (eight years ago) link

Wow, in a defiant turn against the tide, Target's exclusive edition of the CD earns its exclusivity by including a redemption code for a VINYL copy of the O.G. album 'to be delivered to your own door'.

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 11 June 2015 23:46 (eight years ago) link

oh my god this album is so good.

so, i dunno. maybe something like:

Sway
Moonlight Mile
Wild Horses*
Bitch
Dead Flowers
Can’t You Hear Me Knocking
Brown Sugar
You Gotta Move
I Got the Blues
Sister Morphine

*i might prefer gram parsons’s version, actually, but you can’t fuck with this

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 12 June 2015 00:39 (eight years ago) link

alt version of Dead Flowers upthread is interesting. Guitars are out of tune and vocals are flat, and Jagger's southern affectations are more conspicuous and excruciating than ever, but somehow this still rules

Wimmels, Friday, 12 June 2015 01:24 (eight years ago) link

Wild Horses
Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Dead Flowers
Sway
Moonlight Mile
Brown Sugar
Bitch
Sister Morphine
You Gotta Move
I Got The Blues

Rolling Stones 1968-1972 is the most unfuckwithable run in music history

thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Friday, 12 June 2015 15:58 (eight years ago) link

Sway
Moonlight Mile
Brown Sugar
Dead Flowers
Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Wild Horses
Bitch
You Gotta Move
I Got the Blues
Sister Morphine

Ha, same top two and bottom three as amateurist's

bunny slopes, Friday, 12 June 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link

Rolling Stones 1968-1972 is the most unfuckwithable run in music history

I love the stones and have no problem with hyperboles but even without going very far from their times and genre, Stevie Wonder's 72-76 is arguably even more unfuckwithable !

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 12 June 2015 21:59 (eight years ago) link

Rolling Stones 1968-1972 is the most unfuckwithable run in music history

Music does not get better.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 12 June 2015 22:02 (eight years ago) link

it just gets sick and dies

Οὖτις, Friday, 12 June 2015 22:04 (eight years ago) link

Or in the Stones case, it just gets weaker

kornrulez6969, Friday, 12 June 2015 22:12 (eight years ago) link

Sway
Moonlight Mile
Wild Horses
Dead Flowers
Cant You Hear Me Knocking
Bitch
Brown Sugar
Sister Morphine
I Got The Blues
You Gotta Move

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 June 2015 23:35 (eight years ago) link

wanted to just list Sway over and over tbh

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 June 2015 23:37 (eight years ago) link

i mean all the songs are great but Sway

jesus

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 June 2015 23:37 (eight years ago) link

any of these:
moonlight mile
can't you hear me knocking
sway

followed by this:
you gotta move

then any of these:
wild horses
brown sugar
dead flowers

then these:
i got the blues
bitch
sister morphine

fact checking cuz, Friday, 12 June 2015 23:41 (eight years ago) link

bitch is a jam tho! the horns slay me

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 June 2015 23:44 (eight years ago) link

they're all jams! my bottom three, anybody's bottom three, slay most other band's careers.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 12 June 2015 23:48 (eight years ago) link

This is the first time in a long time that I've put on a deluxe reissue and been just blown away by the album itself, to the point where I've put off listening to the bonus stuff. Usually it's the other way around.

Can't You Hear Me Knocking at the top, Wild Horses at the bottom only because I've heard it too many times. And yeah, at the moment I'm thinking this might be the best rock and roll album ever made.

dlp9001, Saturday, 13 June 2015 01:10 (eight years ago) link

three least favorite: blues, morphine, wild horses

big fat rascal (will), Saturday, 13 June 2015 01:15 (eight years ago) link

substitute "...Knocking" and yeah

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 June 2015 01:40 (eight years ago) link

i dig knocking! replace which one?

big fat rascal (will), Saturday, 13 June 2015 01:42 (eight years ago) link

Replace "Knocking' with "Sway."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 June 2015 01:54 (eight years ago) link

replace everything with sway

mookieproof, Saturday, 13 June 2015 02:02 (eight years ago) link

I wish the outtakes on the new edition were better. It seems they put the best versions on the original album. (Imagine that!)

calstars, Saturday, 13 June 2015 02:02 (eight years ago) link

wild horses just gets me, i've heard it so many times but it's so beautiful - harmony chorus cannot be fucked with

also ~keef~ high harmony <3

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 13 June 2015 02:14 (eight years ago) link

you can hear Keith's voice clearly on the outtake of Brown Sugar with Clapton. Probably the best moments of the track.

calstars, Saturday, 13 June 2015 02:18 (eight years ago) link

spoilers man, i'm still stuck on disc 1 lol

keef on any harmony pretty much gives me life though, love him

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 13 June 2015 02:20 (eight years ago) link

fuck

i got the blues would be a top 3 song on another album but SF is such a monster it ends up second last on my list

how can that be

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 13 June 2015 02:35 (eight years ago) link

also i just redeemed for my vinyl sticky fingers

i have no working turntable rn but hey

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 13 June 2015 03:00 (eight years ago) link

salivate like a Pavlov dog

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 June 2015 03:04 (eight years ago) link

proposal: a group time travel excursion back to the roundhouse 71

i want to see them in concert once in my life but i also want to go back and see them like this

fuck

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 13 June 2015 03:29 (eight years ago) link

Veg, have you ever seen Ladies and Gentlemen, The Rolling Stones? Obviously not the same experience, but it's the same lineup (Stones + Hopkins, Keys & Price) live in a big hall in Texas on the Exile tour. Very cool.

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 13 June 2015 04:05 (eight years ago) link

xps the song is expressing their disgust with slavery and imperialism much like stray cat blues is expressing their disgust with men molesting teenagers and under my thumb is expressing their disgust with patriarchal abuse and midnight rambler etc

I'm pretty sure all this was seen as fucked up at the time - that's what made it edgy - but BS is the kind of thing that would end a band in a just world and the half century of rock fans and critics defending and celebrating it is a repulsive spectacle

your original display name is still visible (Left), Monday, 23 January 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link

it's bad enough that I think of this album as one I hate even though I enjoy 80% of it to varying degrees

your original display name is still visible (Left), Monday, 23 January 2023 18:57 (one year ago) link

unlike the morally spotless avatars of rightiousness who exist today, the stones had the indecency to incriminate even themselves.

Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 23 January 2023 19:12 (one year ago) link

note how "scarred old slaver" in the first verse becomes "i" later in the song.

Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 23 January 2023 19:16 (one year ago) link

greil marcus thinking it through in real time:
https://greilmarcus.net/2014/08/06/rolling-stones-sticky-fingers-1071/

Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 23 January 2023 19:24 (one year ago) link

as a text it's certainly more generative than the average racist or sexist classic rock song and it does kind of give the game away- if white rock in general is the GOP then brown sugar is trump. but you don't have to hand it to them for nailing the ugliness at the heart of the genre so vividly

your original display name is still visible (Left), Monday, 23 January 2023 19:34 (one year ago) link

I see Greil provides another touchpoint for the "CYHMK" jam:

(T)he song rocks through its few minutes of glory like few songs ever have. If they eventually blow the performance by jerking the listener, as if someone had punched a button from WROK to WJAZ, into a pleasant and pallid excursion into what reminds me more of the Ventures than anything else, then again, this is part of their confusion and their inability to know what to do with their music, their talent, and their own best impulses.

Vexatious litigant (morrisp), Monday, 23 January 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link

xpost
and merging it with their most concise and powerful rocker into the bargain. i think it is a mistake to equate sexist classic rock with the GOP, thereby safely placing it "over there" and enabling anyone else to wash their hands of any inconvenient truths. but maybe that's why i'm persona non grata on the politics threads.

Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 23 January 2023 19:45 (one year ago) link

sure i'm complicit in racial capitalism and my repudiation of mick jagger is in part an attempt to distance myself from that unpleasant fact

is it hypocritical to find his wallowing and savouring of his position distasteful

Left, Monday, 23 January 2023 19:55 (one year ago) link

short of abolishing myself or embracing the worst of reality the options seem to be to throw my hands up and say it's complicated or to bitch and moan about the worst excesses in the hope that they become harder to defend more generally and then idk

Left, Monday, 23 January 2023 19:59 (one year ago) link

i'm not going to defend the song and i am sure there are many things about the stones' personal lives i do not want to know about. wyman's marriage to a teenager, for instance, was revolting, and i'm sure there would be more dirt if i dug into it. but i don't think that means i need to put away my stones records forever or anything. at this point these records are over 50 years old; dipping into them is like pulling out my copy of moby dick. they're just there, part of the culture.

treeship., Monday, 23 January 2023 20:00 (one year ago) link

the most insidious thing about them was probably the misogyny, actually. but like, understanding this aspect of their music and rock culture in the 60s and 70s helps explain the limitations and even the failures of the counterculture. i don't know what cancelling would accomplish at this point except whitewashing this history.

treeship., Monday, 23 January 2023 20:03 (one year ago) link

Greil's question seems apt:

The leer may be a parody, but is it still a leer?

And I think the answer is yes. The song in a way is a descendant of noir novels like Jim Thompson's The Killer Inside Me that trick you into rooting for a sociopath and then leave you wriggling on the hook to deal with your own feelings of guilt afterwards. Irony is no defense. I don't think the song should be defended. Its extremely toxic. Luckily its much easier to avoid now than I guess it was in the summer when Greil was writing that piece and it was blaring from every FM radio.

o. nate, Monday, 23 January 2023 20:12 (one year ago) link

lolita is like this too, i think

treeship., Monday, 23 January 2023 20:14 (one year ago) link

the culture is kind of shit in a lot of ways (sure so am i as a product of it). there is racism in moby dick (in a vaguely similar semi-knowing kind of way) and calling that out isn't the same as wanting to burn it or being unable to understand nuance and complexity or whatever. the kids who don't like huck finn aren't wrong or stupid or unable to understand what it's trying to do either, they just know it's not good enough. if that's cancel culture then i'm all for it

Left, Monday, 23 January 2023 20:18 (one year ago) link

"Moonlight Mile" is the greatest closing track of the era, minimum.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 23 January 2023 20:20 (one year ago) link

i still prefer exile, but nothing on that is as good as dead flowers

treeship., Monday, 23 January 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link

"Loving Cup" is.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 23 January 2023 20:22 (one year ago) link

"Sister Moonlight"s sometimes too affected for me to enjoy until Ry Cooder's solo slaps my face.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 January 2023 20:23 (one year ago) link

frankly they peaked with she's a rainbow / 2000 light years and i wish they (and other psych bands) hadn't felt the need to retreat into the rootsy bluesy manly rut they've largely been stuck in since 68

Left, Monday, 23 January 2023 20:29 (one year ago) link

i love that stuff too but i disagree

treeship., Monday, 23 January 2023 20:30 (one year ago) link

idk they got pretty swishy with the rock-disco stuff later in the decade. I wish they'd recorded an album's worth of "Let Me Go" and "When the Whip Comes Down"s.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 January 2023 20:30 (one year ago) link

"am i rough enough?"

treeship., Monday, 23 January 2023 20:32 (one year ago) link

"Waiting on a Friend" was their last great song.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 23 January 2023 20:34 (one year ago) link

Rolling Stones 1968-1972 is the most unfuckwithable run in music history

Best four-album run in rock history, hands down.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 23 January 2023 20:35 (one year ago) link

frankly they peaked with she's a rainbow / 2000 light years

I'm glad you're speaking out with such frankness, but, as much as I love "She's a Rainbow," that strikes me as absurd.

clemenza, Monday, 23 January 2023 20:41 (one year ago) link

rootsy bluesy manly rut

One of the things that makes Beggars Banquet my choice for best Stones album is that they retained a lot of the psychedelic haze that was soon cleared away by Mick Taylor, saxophones, and the whole barroom ambience.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 23 January 2023 21:10 (one year ago) link

stripped is good, imo

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Monday, 23 January 2023 21:29 (one year ago) link

their best disco is dance part 2 (if I was a dancer)

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Monday, 23 January 2023 21:29 (one year ago) link


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