Tindersticks : classic or dud

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the second album is just called Tindersticks (as was the first). it is by far the best album, and is an essential record.

gareth, Thursday, 11 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Album discog. - off the top of my head:

'Tindersticks' - '93
'Tinderstick's Second Album' - '95
'Live at Bloomsbury' -'96
'Curtains' - '97
'Donkeys 92-97' - '98
'Simple Pleasures' - '99
'Can Our Love... ' - 2001

I think that's right. They've also done a couple of soundtrack albums as well. And it's all good stuff.

DavidM, Saturday, 13 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

get Marks Moods if you can. and they did the soundtrack for Nénette et Boni.

ktrey, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

two years pass...
remastered reissues!

http://www.tindersticks.co.uk/reissues.html

i'm implausibly excited about getting the remastered first album. maybe the 2nd, too, although i already have the bloomsbury set on cd and i never like the 2nd album as much as the first, anyway. but the first album...

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 11 March 2004 09:31 (twenty years ago) link

oh deep deep joy. Looks like i'll be buying the whole bloody lot all over again then...might as well get "mug" tattooed across my forehead now and have done with it!

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 11 March 2004 09:51 (twenty years ago) link

heh. I have that first alb on cassete (taped it from my record library many many years ago), a great debut and prob one of my fave slabs of indie stuff.

I checked the third album and that was nowhere near as good so I just stopped bothering with them.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 11 March 2004 10:01 (twenty years ago) link

I still can't be arsed either way about most of their canon, but I have a little time for the 1st album, Simple Pleasures and Can Our Love...

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 11 March 2004 10:38 (twenty years ago) link

I'm very partial to Tindersticks - I've got all the studio albums + a couple of freebies that have come with them + Donkeys but I haven't actually bought any singles, EP's, live albums or either of the soundtrack albums.

If they'd released all this bonus material etc. as a boxset then I might well have been tempted (I'm a great big sucker for boxsets at the best of times) but being asked to fork out again for four albums I already own and a Greatest Hits I've already got every track on, to get this stuff just feels like a rip-off.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 11 March 2004 11:27 (twenty years ago) link

at least more people can hear simple pleasure now. i have that but nobody else i know seems to be able to find it.

!!!! (amateurist), Thursday, 11 March 2004 11:41 (twenty years ago) link

the soundtrack albums are pointless as i recall. the bloomsbury theatre album is fantastic though.

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 11 March 2004 11:47 (twenty years ago) link

? Amazon.co.uk, Play.com and 101cd.com are all stocking it - and all quite cheaply too, presumably because of the forthcoming remastered / bonus CD issues.

101's currently cheapest if you're going to buy something else as well, otherwise by the time you've paid a quid for postage & packing it works out the same as Play (£7.99).

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the "old" un-remastered single disc versions of all those albums kicking around extremely cheaply once the new ones come out 'though....

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 11 March 2004 11:50 (twenty years ago) link

Sorry, last message was replying to !!! rather than Toby.

The Bloomsbury Theatre one seems to be the only one that isn't still available in the original version.... if it's that good it might make re-purchasing the 2nd studio album a little more pallatable 'though.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 11 March 2004 12:05 (twenty years ago) link

This is weird - if I already have the second alum as a double CD set with the Bloomsbury gig as the second CD (bought in Germany in 1995ish), am I in possession of a rarity?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 11 March 2004 12:10 (twenty years ago) link

I'm perfectly happy with the sound on the first three albums, so see no need to repurchase them. The bonus disc on the 'greatest hits' set looks far more tempting, though.

Rob M (Rob M), Thursday, 11 March 2004 12:15 (twenty years ago) link

Unfortunately it seems to be one of those FREE BONUS DISC (when you buy the first disc at twice the normal price) deals.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 11 March 2004 12:34 (twenty years ago) link

what great advances in technology have been made in the past four years that would justify a 'remaster' of simple pleasure anyhow??

!!!! (amateurist), Thursday, 11 March 2004 17:53 (twenty years ago) link

so how come the original version of Marriage Made in Heaven(WITHOUT Rosselini) is nowhere to be found? Or am I dense?

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 11 March 2004 17:54 (twenty years ago) link

It would be 1/100 th as interesting without Isabella Rosselini. I wouldn't want to find it.
Does anyone else here have a lot of love for last year's "Waiting For the Moon"? I thought it was spectacular, but it didn't have anywhere close to the impact that their earlier records did.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 11 March 2004 20:14 (twenty years ago) link

Worst voice ever.

David Allen (David Allen), Thursday, 11 March 2004 20:29 (twenty years ago) link

Barry, have you heard the original? It's SOOOOO much better! The arrangement's totally different, and of course the singing is totally different....

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 11 March 2004 20:54 (twenty years ago) link

Dan: I haven't ... sorry, it's out of character for me to slag something without hearing it ... I think I have difficulty imagining any Tindersticks duet without the female singer. Those tracks are always one of the finest on their albums.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 11 March 2004 21:01 (twenty years ago) link

I adore this band but don't think I'll shell out for remastered versions of any of these records, because they all sound pretty good to me. well, maybe the first one. I liked waiting for the moon more than can our love or simple pleasures. The first two will always be my favorites though. The one asphault ribbons song I heard was terrible!

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 11 March 2004 22:31 (twenty years ago) link

The original Marriage Made In Heaven single was a Rough Trade Single Series release with a drawing of Lee Hazlewood on the cover and a dedication on the back, something like "To Lee, father of us all" and it DOES feature female vocals, just not Isabella Rossellini's. I forget exactly who sings but it's not too unlike Travelling Light, another great male/female duet from the second self-titled album.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 11 March 2004 23:56 (twenty years ago) link

since when have records that are 10 years old or so needed to be remastered? No way I am re-purchasing these.

mentalist (mentalist), Friday, 12 March 2004 01:01 (twenty years ago) link

the original "marriage made in heaven" is so so so much better than the pointless retread with isabella rossellini.

funnily enough the female vocals are by her out of huggy bear, greeham coxon's ex. endearingly nasal.

the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 12 March 2004 03:39 (twenty years ago) link

simple pleasure is still my fave tindersticks lp BY FAR

!!!! (amateurist), Friday, 12 March 2004 12:18 (twenty years ago) link

Love the first album, not sure if you need more than one Tindersticks record though.

holojames (holojames), Friday, 12 March 2004 21:21 (twenty years ago) link

amst, can you explain why you love simple pleasure?

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 12 March 2004 21:49 (twenty years ago) link

I have the other marriage made in heaven, I can put it on slsk tonight if anyone is looking for it.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Friday, 12 March 2004 22:18 (twenty years ago) link

You know how, on Shooting Stars, there's a bit where Vic Reeves sings a song in a ludicrous "pub singer" voice and the teams have to guess what the song is? Well that's The Tindersticks that is.

Dadaismus (Dada), Saturday, 13 March 2004 15:18 (twenty years ago) link

cozen i think i celebrated that lp on some other tindersticks thread...

!!!! (amateurist), Saturday, 13 March 2004 19:08 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
Revived because I'm listening to some early Peel sessions courtesy of s1sk and darned if it ain't all really good stuff.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 May 2004 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Total Freakin' Classic. Unless you're like, rilly rilly Calvinist.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Monday, 10 May 2004 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...
utter classic.

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 21:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I think theirs are the only indie strings I can bear.

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 21:07 (nineteen years ago) link

god, "(you take) this heart of mine" is soooo lovely

amateur!!st, Friday, 17 September 2004 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link

keep the first one. sell the others. they are just pale copies of the 1st tindersticks album. and yes. me too i spend half a year listening only to the 1st album. live they were disappointing. staples was on whiskey, i think. his voice is an acquired taste, that's the expression right? what i always loved about the album. the passion, the total indulgence, the physicalness. the others were much more subdued. extremely boring. a one trick pony that band. but they never arrived to repeat their trick!

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:03 (nineteen years ago) link

they are just pale copies of the 1st tindersticks album

simple pleasure doesn't sound like the 1st album at all, excepting stuart's very distinctive voice

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link

the only record that sounds like the first album is the second album, and some people I know like that one more (I prefer the first). I do think their albums can be uneven, or a little undistinctive, but there are exquisite moments on all of them; Simple Pleasures is my least favorite, the first and Can Our Love are at the top of my list. the two times I've seen them live they were amazing.

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:11 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah they are great live

simple pleasure is their 70s soul album, essentially. lots of philadelphia strings and hi records drum patterns

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah the only thing I didn't like much about that record was the background vocals. also, my CD got scratched years ago and skips, and the thing is impossible/expensive to replace. I should go download it and give it another chance.

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link

the second is my fave. I saw them play with a 13 member string section in Dumbo. It was amazing.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link

A nightmare is to be strangled with a Tindersticks-cd. What I'm saying is that Tindersticks playing Pavementsongs is too. Big fat dud. I don't like them. They are my definition of bad pretentious pop music. Maybe Mercury Rev is their opposite.

strom (strom), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link

. What I'm saying is that Tindersticks playing Pavementsongs is too.

has this ever happened? I can't imagine it.

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

It's true. They recorded a version of "Here" for a tribute some years ago.

strom (strom), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link

It's a b-side to one of their singles, "Kathleen", iirc.

Tindersticks albums rankings (not including live albums and soundtracks)

1) Tindersticks
2) Curtains
3) Waiting for the Moon
4) Simple Pleasure
5) Tindersticks II
6) Can Our Love ...

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 18 September 2004 19:22 (nineteen years ago) link

even though i understand almost anything bad about this band that one could say, I really adore them. Tindersticks II was sort of a fixture during the beginning of high school for me; even though I hardly ever put it on anymore, it's one of the strongest emotional reactions I've had to an album... these days, simple pleasure is probably the one I like the best - the opening few tracks are just wonderful. i think bathtime and whatever song follows it on "curtains" with that melodic round are their best songs.

dave k, Saturday, 18 September 2004 23:32 (nineteen years ago) link

the second album is my favourite too. for anyone who loves the 'sticks can i reccommend "by the roads and the fields" by Crescent (on fat-cat).

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 19 September 2004 00:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Tindersticks II is my fave

mentalist (mentalist), Sunday, 19 September 2004 04:58 (nineteen years ago) link

So is Can Our Love not so high on the ILMers' love scale? It's the only one I have...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 19 September 2004 05:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Seems amazing that 1000 copies of the Boulter album haven't just flown out of the shops.

djh, Monday, 5 July 2021 20:37 (two years ago) link

It’s a very good album. I notice Monorail are stocking it too now.

hamicle, Monday, 5 July 2021 20:58 (two years ago) link

Yeah, that's what made me notice that it hadn't just sold out.

djh, Monday, 5 July 2021 21:05 (two years ago) link

idk I'm a massive Tindersticks fan but I'm not really interested in hearing this since Staples isn't involved.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Monday, 5 July 2021 21:36 (two years ago) link

I'm not absolutely sure how the work is divided (never actually checked the credits) but it is worth hearing.

I've been less keen on Staples' voice on more recent recordings (though I think he's been trying to be creative and do interesting things).

djh, Monday, 5 July 2021 21:39 (two years ago) link

oh? I have to check that out then - what does he do, death metal growls? Belting tenor?

StanM, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 05:57 (two years ago) link

Anyway, there's a tour with orchestra booked for next spring which I'm super looking forward to. The write-up on the website suggests that the sets may have a retrospective feel, which would be welcome. A "career-spanning" compilation is also planned.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 07:27 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Enjoying this tonight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t3iOjLIDPI

I like the bits where the drummer is a bit "Animal from the Muppets". I'm guessing they disliked each other by this point.

I play "Ballad of Tindersticks" a lot. Best song about burn out, I think.

djh, Thursday, 26 August 2021 21:47 (two years ago) link

dud

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Friday, 27 August 2021 02:58 (two years ago) link

Pondering a "rowdy" Tindersticks play list - "Fast One" and "4:48 Psychosis" being the obvious starting points.

What should be on there?

djh, Monday, 30 August 2021 21:11 (two years ago) link

"Her" off the first record?

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 30 August 2021 21:26 (two years ago) link

"City Sickness"?

henry s, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 00:19 (two years ago) link

whiskey and water could be done in a pretty rowdy style

akm, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 05:40 (two years ago) link

So far ...

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2xkrEf49hQpLCMZyyFoWnZ

djh, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 08:32 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

gotta say, some beautiful Tindersticks energy on this new Liminanas/Laurent Garnier record (don't be put off by the cover)

https://theliminanas.bandcamp.com/album/de-pel-cula

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

There's a new David Boulter Xmas-y thing here:

https://claypipemusic.greedbag.com/

djh, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 21:52 (two years ago) link

There's a lot of red.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 19 December 2021 21:29 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

New career-spanning box set now up for pre-order:

https://shop.cityslang.com/products/past-imperfect-the-best-of-tindersticks-92-21-4lp-box-set-exclusive-7-inch

There's also an ultra-limited run of 300 clear vinyl copies via Rough Trade.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Monday, 17 January 2022 14:24 (two years ago) link

It's a bit difficult to be very excited about that. And I love Tindersticks.

djh, Monday, 17 January 2022 19:13 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SfAu_MmvEw

djh, Saturday, 12 February 2022 21:56 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

An instrumental playlist (draft/early version):

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/20d7vs21rgUxh8vS9fGJjt

Need to go back to the soundtracks with red wine.

djh, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 21:51 (one year ago) link

Not sure if the recent David Boulter mini-CD has been posted on other threads:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwLM-b5kHJI

djh, Thursday, 16 February 2023 07:12 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

My Tindersticks Spotify playlists:

Songs for the cat
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7kSYlZUZL66QSicP4dVPeB
Named on the highly twee idea that my cat is happy listening to Tindersticks. A single CD best of.

A Tindersticks Disco
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0bemoNJ96EBMOhClH4ZJ27
The original versions of some songs covered by the Tindersticks interspersed with Tindersticks songs - think I'd originally meant to create a sort of imaginary Tindersticks DJ Kicks but got too drunk. (Curiously, I was pondering what would be the inspiration for their first album songs, the other day).

Bottle 1, Bottle 2
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6qyrg5nOGWRfDofEbvF0fJ
Self-explanatory. Supposed to cover the arc of an evening.

Closing Titles
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/20d7vs21rgUxh8vS9fGJjt
Instrumentals (Could do with being edited to include more soundtrack recordings).

A drunk shouts outside your window
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2xkrEf49hQpLCMZyyFoWnZ
Rowdier tracks!

djh, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 18:07 (eight months ago) link

I was just thinking about the first timr I met their one time manager James Endicott sitting in a van talking to Norman from Boy Hairdresser after the Primal Scream gig that had been Dinosaur (jr)'s London debut because of a Teenage Fanclub t-shirt somebody shared a photo of earlier.
Like just a couple of minutes before I saw the thread revival.

Saw them in the Olympia in Dublin in the late 90s. Do enjoy the records too.

Stevo, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 23:27 (eight months ago) link

Thanks for the playlists, djh! Been curious about Tindersticks for a while but never checked them out, will have a listen to that cat one when I have a moment

vexingvexillologist, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 12:38 (eight months ago) link

Are there obvious influences on "Her"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS50FPRMiQ8

By which I mean ... If I like this what (non-Tindersticks) music would I enjoy with my bottle of red?

djh, Saturday, 12 August 2023 18:58 (eight months ago) link

God idk. I love that album so much. Whenever I feel like listening to Nick Cave or The National I mostoften just switch over the Tindersticks instead

Snoopy is a cat, who lives in a cage (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 12 August 2023 20:23 (eight months ago) link

six months pass...

Enjoying this, by David Boulter: https://davidboulter.bandcamp.com/album/five-nights-in-maine-soundtrack

djh, Sunday, 3 March 2024 10:52 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

A friend asked if I'd make a compilation of what I thought Tindersticks would play on their tour later this year - they've not really followed them after their third or fourth album:

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6iU2G4AnPQ16fXelETcfVx

This is based on what they were playing in 2023 ... and doesn't include anything from "Distractions" (which I don't really know) or their new album. Threw in some recent tracks I like. Imagine that they play "Her" or "Marbles" or something as an encore.

Enjoy with red wine.

(As I did).

djh, Monday, 8 April 2024 19:19 (one week ago) link


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