― Haikunym, Saturday, 26 July 2003 13:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Haikunym, Saturday, 26 July 2003 13:04 (twenty years ago) link
simple: gangstarr has a style.
― john0000000000000000, Monday, 28 July 2003 08:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan), Monday, 28 July 2003 14:30 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 28 July 2003 14:47 (twenty years ago) link
John ain't talking about the new Aceyalone, because it's not very good. Keith Murray? Possibly. Haven't heard his new one yet. Couldn't be PMD (whose new album "features EPMD"...??!?!?)
Daily Operation, while easily Gang Starr's finest, is hardly without it's clunkers. "Mostly Tha Voice" comes to mind.
― roger adultery, Monday, 28 July 2003 16:09 (twenty years ago) link
Well, I guess we're assuming that you agree with me that Def Jux is, to one degree or another, "ruined." (This is not, of course, unilaterally true.) But there's a high level of "We are not fun! We are not listenable! We are innovative!" in a lot of the Jukies work. Which wouldn't be bad if a lot of it weren't so unfun and unlistenable.
That's true, and it's a style I quite like. But it's also true that there's no practical need for me to have as many Gang Starr records as I do -- except for a tendency to slow down and simplify as time has gone on, they sound almost exactly the same as they did nearly 15 years ago. There's nothing wrong with that, exactly, but my point is that the rhetoric that surrounds the aesthetic is stupid in the extreme.
― Ess, Monday, 28 July 2003 16:52 (twenty years ago) link
Let me guess: you've heard one, no, two Aesop Rock songs and that I Phantom album-ending posse cut about nuclear apocalypse.
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Monday, 28 July 2003 22:21 (twenty years ago) link
― JS Williams (js williams), Monday, 28 July 2003 22:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Monday, 28 July 2003 22:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Monday, 28 July 2003 22:40 (twenty years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Monday, 28 July 2003 22:43 (twenty years ago) link
Ding ding ding ding ding! We have a winnah!
Nate get your ass off ohhla and listen to the record, it's completely completely great
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 28 July 2003 23:37 (twenty years ago) link
NB this is one of only a sprinkling of religio-ish lines on the record, which is part of why it's good
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 28 July 2003 23:40 (twenty years ago) link
Naw. If anything, I'm responding more to older stuff -- Funcrusher, etc. -- and, aside from Rj and Can Ox (both of which are really great), it seems pretty obvious to me that the Def Jux crowd is kind of fun-averse. (Well, there's some punchline-heavy guys like Murs, but maybe he's not fun to me.) Especially when you put them against comparable work like the Stone's Throw crowd or even the Automator's stuff, the Jukie aesthetic is just too ahhhhhtistic for my tastes.
― Ess, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:07 (twenty years ago) link
Murs got Humpty Hump to guest on his album = he is Fun Itself
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 14:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Haikunym, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 14:44 (twenty years ago) link
Whoah. Whoah. How was I not informed of this? What have I been doing with my life? This changes everything.
― Ess, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 14:46 (twenty years ago) link
But oh dear lord stay AWAY from PFAC.
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 22:27 (twenty years ago) link
Yes, oops was right, that was on Hard to Earn.
That beat ... YUM. Shuffling, swanky, and that bass line is DEEP.
― tk, Wednesday, 30 July 2003 06:14 (twenty years ago) link
My date tonight told me a great Guru story, but I don't have permission to retell it yet, and it involves a gun...
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 30 July 2003 06:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Jay K (Jay K), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 08:11 (twenty years ago) link
???
― j., Tuesday, 5 November 2019 02:19 (four years ago) link
it's surprisingly good
― corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 10:20 (four years ago) link
whiney's review is good!https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/gang-star-one-of-the-best-yet-review-907757/
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link
so good to hear Jeru again
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link
it was fine, but it inspired me to revisit the ownerz, which is way better than i remembered
― kanye kendrick frank kendrick frank kanye (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link
xp and group home guy
― j., Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link
huh I didn't even notice Jeru
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link
yeah that's a fine review good work Whiney
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link
richard pryor sample on the last track is a+
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link
This is great until J Cole appears.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link
yeah that's exactly when i turned the record off then put on the ownerz instead lol
― kanye kendrick frank kendrick frank kanye (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link
Lil' Fame & Billy Danze, national treasures
Yo, a wise man once said, "Fuck what a wise man said"Bitch, gimme that bag otherwise y'all dead
......
Now fuck who ya crew isfuck what the true isGang Starr foreverfuck what the new is
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link
I'm not a J Cole fan but his verse is fine
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link
i never listen to j cole so i don't recognize him when he comes on, win/win
― j., Wednesday, 6 November 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link
Tom was wrong as hell itt
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link
thanks, guys!
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link
I really hope John's talking about the new Keith Murray album, which pretty much destroys the new Gang Starr.
tbf this is a hilarious challop
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link