dead moon

just get the DVD. i actually haven't heard the live records, sorry!

The DVD is the shit.

i concur!

Yeah, DVD is really awesome and kind of inspiring shit.

Both live albums about equally good. Which is to say both GREAT, you can't really go wrong. My favorite, tho, is that 2x10" live thing they split with Napalm Beach. Not 'cuz it's so much better overall (it ain't), but 'cuz the version of "54-40 or Fight" on that is the best damn thing Dead Moon ever did. Gives me chills to this day.

What exactly happened to Andrew Loomis? He really seemed in it 'til the end in that DVD.

i think there was an incident on tour, likely stemming him his serious alcohol problem? don't really know any details.

Pity, he was so likable.

the best part of the dvd is where fred cole is doing an interview with the most clueless man ever.

the best part of the DVD is where he forces the tour van to make a detour to a casino so they can play slots all night after EVERY SHOW lol

maybe there is another thread for this but who's heard the Pierced Arrows full-length? as good as DM?

Pierced Arrows - the thread

I didn't know they had an album out! cool.

I googled their website, it looks like they have one 7" and one LP / CD

the single is great, I have that. totally recommended.

no (non-scummy) reason to get the 7" if i get the LP right?

no, looks like both tracks are on teh LP.

Do these guys not smoke pot/do any drugs? One of my friends offered them a joint after a show and they declined -- when talking about one of Fred's early guitar players freaking out on acid in the DVD, they quickly say something about "why do you think we're so against dope?" I just always pictured them as the crazy old hard-partying couple.

Then again, there's that hardcore survivor, trial by fire vibe. Kinda goes hand in hand with AlAnon, recovery program, etc. By the time you're fifty-something, anyway.

P.S. Buy the Rats LP on MssssP.

Is it in print? Where can I get it?

Record stores! Dunno how many copies, but probly few. Vinyl only. First one only (S/T).

Not exactly in print, but recent so still available is what I mean. Plus SO DAMN GOOD.

so it's impossible to be crazy old hard-partying without doing drugs...

IT'S OKAY
YEAH IT'S OKAY
WE'VE ALL SEEN BETTER DAYS
IT'S OKAY
(YEAH IT'S OKAY)
YOU DON"T HAVE TO RUN AND HIDE AWAY
IT'S OKAY
(YEAH IT'S OKAY!!!!)
WE LOVE YOU ANYWAY!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtEY8gaUXdQ

Being somewhere I don't want to be, alone, no money, no life... yeah, Dead Moon are pretty much the soundtrack to my life these days.

SITUATIONS OUT OF HAAAAAAND

how timely, now I can remind everybody that Mississippi just reissued the first 3 LPs.

Fred+Toody FOREVER!

are those first three a good place to start ? i've missed the boat with these guys.

hell yes. first is amazing - not least for their cover of "parchment farm" - and the next two are at least as good. best intro possible.

are those first three a good place to start ? i've missed the boat with these guys.

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the echoes from the past 2CD comp from sub pop is pretty awesome way to start and easy to find, etc

hmm, looks like it's out of print? selling for obscene amounts on amazin, sub pop sez they're out of stock...

amazon, not amazin

Weird, really? It is a great comp.
But it's hard to go wrong with anything DEAD MOON.

Not completely sold on Pierced Arrows fwiw.

liked that comp, but it was something of an embarrassment of riches. 5 or 6 albums worth of tracks, all of them good, but the length and sequencing make it something of a chore. i prefer their better albums, though the comp is a good pocket guide.

yeah jeez i checked discogs too and it's 79 bucks there! wtf that just came out a couple years ago

It was on sale at Sonic Boom in Seattle when I was up their around the time of the Sub Pop 20 thing.
It was only ten bucks! This was three summers ago.
Silly.

yeah, must've been someone's pet project at sub pop, probably didn't press too many of them.

that is fucked! I have that 2CD and it works great for car rides.

I'M PISSED OFF
IT'S JUST THE WAY I AAAMMMM

what'd be real sweet: a repress of the third rats LP, in a desperate red, which is probably my fave fred/toody joint and not just for obscurity points. it's got a rad postpunky vibe and every single song is so fucking sick.

I like the first Rats and REALLY REALLY like Intermittent Signals, so In A Desperate Red sounds like it'd be a winner.
I asked Fred about that when Pierced Arrows played at a High School in town a couple years ago and he either didn't hear me (quite possible from what I understand of his hearing troubles) or just didn't feel like talking about it.

this band rules, huh?

now and forever

anyone see that documentary on the band? worth it?

it's SO GOOD.
there's tons of great live footage, and their story is really pretty inspiring imo.

i loaned my copy to a friend like three years ago and have not gotten it back.

rly wanna see the dead moon doc, a hardcore DM fan said he watched it in tears.

buncha these guys LPs are forthcoming on mississippi btw

dead moon doc is available on the internets, friends.

buncha these guys LPs are forthcoming on mississippi btw

that's good news, since most of them are OOP.

Legend of American Rock n' Roll.
51 years in the game. Rest well.

RIP - but so many songs about dying/grave/time has come/too far gone/remember me/... , it's very hard to listen now :-(

Oh no, RIP. I love that band.

RIP. this is so sad. i was fortunate enough to share the stage w Pierced Arrows in 2010 and they were the nicest possible people. insane love and respect for these lifers.

i highly recommend the wonderful Dead Moon documentary. it's been years since i've seen it, i should give it a rewatch...

yes, the documentary is excellent, definitely gonna watch it again soon

one thing that really amazed me was how DIY they were. they had built their own house. he was cutting his own records on a lathe. so badass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jnHYW8Er2E

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/354389104/dead-moon-the-book/posts/2041270

A post by the Mississippi Records guy who's doing the book (I hope kickstarter won't force them to redo the whole process now the signed edition won't be signed anymore) + someone made a Dead Moon Family Tree mixtape on Pandora (in the comments) that's only for people in the USA :-/

Very nice and detailed obit in NY Times.

RIP to the author of one of the most perfect songs ever, "Teenagers" by he and Toody's pre-Dead Moon band The Rats:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK04hhbmxcg

Love that song. Veronica Falls did a pretty good cover of that

Ted Leo closed his set last night in Minneapolis with a storming cover of It's OK.

3rd & final Rats LP is finally out on Water Wing, looks fantastic!

https://www.waterwingrecords.com/shop/ww27mor1?

6 years of work went into remixing and remastering this version - with Fred Cole twisting knobs and obsessing over it's every detail and then Greg Shadoan and Tim Stollenwerk finishing the job. One of Fred Cole's greatest records and impossible to find for many years - at last this LP is available as it was meant to be heard. Play it loud....

First Pressing includes a 40 page booklet and a xerox replica of a Rats show poster!

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/8532587/toody-cole-dead-moon-interview

really great profile/interview of toody, lots of amazing quotes

<3
Pulled out Thirteen Off My Hook, amazing to realize I bought it nearly 30 years ago! "I'm still a loner without many friends" (from "Kicked Out Kicked In") jumped out after reading that interview with Toody ("“In a weird way I don’t feel like I’m without him. We were both always loners -- we were just loners together. So now I’m a loner alone.”)
"War Baby" just started, never fails to set me off

was in line for a drink before the Mekons show in Seattle last July and they were playing "Poor Boy" before the show started, me and the guy ahead of me in line spontaneously went into the "pissed off, pissed off, pissed off, it's just the way I am" chorus together and high fived.

oh and everyone in this thread probably knows already, but the 3rd and final Rats LP has been reissued at last

"Time has Come Today" cover on Unknown Passage <3 <3 <3

^ love this

spending some time listening to the rats LP and assorted dead moon stuff today

yeah

Destination X just got reissued on LP!

the rats in a desperate red is really excellent.

i have’t heard destination x in a long time

My gateway, when I was assigned this Columbus OH preview many years ago, still doing homework:

Pierced Arrows
Thursday @ The Summit
Along with the other suspects forcibly re-named Lollipop Shoppe, Fred Cole conjured “You Must Be a Witch,” a ‘60s garage classic, and even a hit. Such music biz vindication didn’t impress guitarist Fred or his bassist wife Toody, who orbited indie rock’s Dead Moon for 20 years, before Pierced Arrows. Fred’s voice can pierce any sound system (or lack thereof). Both of the Coles project psychedelic soul over and through their fractured feedback, buzzing surveillance, Kelly Halliburton’s flying saucer cymbals, and the marching sway of melodies, always ready for more.

Saw Toody in a small bar last night (LaurelThirst Public House in Portland). Great show. She played with a trio + backup singer for a few songs.

Feels to reductive to say it felt like seeing Patti Smith in a hole in the wall, but that's what came to mind. Short clip here:

pic.twitter.com/vcX5aW4dwq

— Eric Ziegenhagen (@ericzieg) April 10, 2023

love the LaurelThirst, Michael Hurley plays there regularly as well

^^ Saw Hurley there a few months ago! New-ish to Portland, so it's exciting to see these legends still playing.

fuck yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnAQ__iNlh8

that trio and backup singer is Jenny Don't And The Spurs, drummer Kelly Halliburton was in Pierced Arrows w/Toody and Fred post-DM

https://deadmoonnight.bandcamp.com/album/going-south

An incredibly intense live document of the band’s legendary 20-date first tour of New Zealand. Recorded before an audience of about 40 people in Invercargill (Keith Richards called it “the arsehole of the world”), this is Dead Moon at their most savage, their best live recording, the way they were meant to be heard!

Toody Cole recalled that the band had been invited to open for Nirvana that year, but one of Fred Cole’s ironfast rules was “never cancel a gig you committed to for a better one.” So Dead Moon burned through New Zealand as planned.

Recorded live at the Glengarry Tavern, Invercargill New Zealand Saturday September 5th 1992