Scrabble - Classic or Dud?

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To be honest I have no idea what I'm like at Scrabble as it's been years since I played and the last time would've been against my family who only know about 3 words each. I used to like Junior Scrabble though.

Emma, Tuesday, 27 August 2002 12:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

I must block all Carter occurences from around the globe from my brane as now I can't remember myself what the hell I was doing on Saturday night.

I think it was yawning post-Friday staying up late festivities.

Alang if you remember ME joining in this Carter set then you are just sick and perverse. If I had been present I would have GLOWERED.

Actually Tom with your Cornish bouze our house is quite the medieval dungeon, albiet with a swedish sauna stylee living room.

Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 12:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

A measure of the mightiness of Scrabble is that Pam & I have returned to the game after vowing never to shake a green cloth tile-bag in each other's company again after several ugly scenes over a crammed board a couple of years ago. It was my fault for keeping track of the scores, and knowing I was on the verge of a ninth straight defeat.

Pam is much better than me; although I seem to have a slightly greater vocabulary, she has letter-juggling skills par excellence and seems to nail two or three seven-letter words per game. She averages up in the 360s, I nudge over 300 once every other game. I never know what to do with the 'K', and blanks just confuse me.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 12:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

My grebtest score was GASEOUS on a triple word score, WOO!

Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 12:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Been a while since I played, though there was a spate of Boggle games at our house a few years back. Brian once scored with the word 'queef.'

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 13:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

oh, totally classic! have any of you read 'word freak,' the book about competitve scrabble? not only was it a fascinating read, it taught me bunches about strategy.

maura (maura), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 13:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

HOOM HOOM it sounds like something I should read as well! Maura when you come over for cake, will you lend it to me?

Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 13:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Then of course there's Upwords in which you can cover up the tiles with new ones to make new words. Shame there's a five tile height limit tho. I suppose if that rule was revoked it could become perilously like Jenga.

MarkH, Tuesday, 27 August 2002 13:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

my tragic scrabble past: i once came 3rd in the national under 16s championships. haven't played since.

toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 14:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

yes sarah! let's make a date

maura (maura), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 14:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Come over before the saffron cake I brought back goes bad.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 15:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

extra K's is just k-lame when there are so many k-grebt adjectives lying around to which you can prefix them.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 15:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

I quite like Scrabble. As you might guess from my being good at TextTwist, I usually beat most people.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 16:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like Marlon Hill!
I have asked for a scrabble set for my birthday, from my parents.

spectra, Wednesday, 28 August 2002 03:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

There were 49 Ks in one of the Little League World Series games! An instant classic.

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 03:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

New Zealand's 185th ranked Scrabble player (that's where the bottom of the ranks they have listed on the web) is called Elvira Steel.


spectra, Thursday, 29 August 2002 06:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://www.acentral.klub.org/richard/crossword.jpg

Alan (Alan), Thursday, 29 August 2002 08:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

I prefer Boggle to Scrabble, but i love most word games

rainy, Thursday, 29 August 2002 08:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Love/hate. I am good with words/anagrams crossword skillz) but a poor strategist. I am sometimes hysterially competitive. I will cheat, but I will tell you this. I am a sore loser but a shamefully triumphalist winner. IN short, even if I did decide to reenter the psychological minefield that is Scrabble, I'd be lucky to find someone still prepared to play with me.

Ellie (Ellie), Thursday, 29 August 2002 10:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Felicity that's an amazing fact.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 29 August 2002 13:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
soemone left word freak downstairs on the "communal bookshelf" in the laundry room. i can't wait to read it. i searched the ile archives and i'm not at all surprised by its popularity around here.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 27 August 2004 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link

some girl on OKCUPID was talking to me about that book today! i still haven't read it. Can ILX have a Literati league? please?

Ian c=====8 (orion), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Can ILX have a Literati league? please?

i will kick ALL your asses

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i would like to play scrabble. I should buy a board

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:04 (nineteen years ago) link

you so should.

also, how can I be quite good at Scrabble, but not too good at Clive Doig's Trackword.

MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 28 August 2004 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link

go see WORD WARS [scrabble documentary] , the companion film to word freak that i think just got released to video.

as for literati, i welcome all challengers. I'd watch out for JuliaA.

gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 28 August 2004 16:12 (nineteen years ago) link

dud dud dud when you play with someone that has been reading the scrabble dictionary.

Carey (Carey), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link

ILX Lit league? I'm in.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Literati has the nice feature of always giving you a blank. I think that's nice and friendly. Particularly if you're a blank-counting sod like me.

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:03 (nineteen years ago) link

The last time I played Scrabble, my opponant got an 8-letter word. On a triple word score. On his first bloody go. Bastard. Giving him a 100-point headstart.

(partly, I was pissed off because if I'd put *my* first word one space to the side he wouldn't have got the triple word score)

(it was MORAINES, I think)

caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I zonked an opponent with MOFUSSIL yesterday. I was so proud.

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link

mo' fussil, less bussil

the music mole (colin s barrow), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link

A rural area in India or Pakistan, apparently.

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I bet there are lots of anicuts in a mofussil

(anicut is my favourite obscure word at the moment)

caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Are there any good online Scrabble sites besides the Internet Scrabble Club (the one on the Romanian server)? I like Literati, but sometimes I get sick of games with 8 or 9 esses or three J's and would like to play actual Scrabble and not a knockoff. But ISC's interface is teh suck for Mac users.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:35 (nineteen years ago) link

what's all y'alls' literati ratings?

i'm 2290.

gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I just beat Carey in scrabble. I was afraid she was gonna win, but then I got FADER on a triple word score/E on a dbl letter. Tiiiiggght.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link

IRC won't let me on lately...I'm not sure what's up with that. I could only get on the backup server anyway, and there weren't usually that many good players on.

Games.com has a good scrabble site, though sometimes it gets cranky and is difficult to get into. I've been playing on there most lately, when I play.

Shit, gygax, that's a really fucking good rating. I don't think I ever got much above 2150 or so at literati. I'm 1962 now, or something like that. So, no need to watch out for me lately...though I'm always up for a game.

I had "leucines" once in literati, and was so proud. For just a moment, my sci education amounted to something...

JuliaA (j_bdules), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Rock, there used to be a channel called #scrabble on the Undernet where you'd hook up with people and play using other software. No idea what's out there for the Mac though, but I have heard the Mac interface is awful and that the command/talk window overlaps the input box.

Literati people accuse me of cheating, so I stopped playing it.

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 28 August 2004 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I've just realised I didn't post about a striking Scrabble moment for me. I mentioned I am used to winning, generally by a large margin, but I was playing with my girlfriend and her flatmate (who I didn't much know) a couple of Christmasses ago, and was struggling. I did win, but that guy came really close to me, and I was worried that I was losing it, and thinking of excuses (I followed him, and he gave me nothing, whereas my girlfriend wasn't so mean - she was Italian, and playing in a second language has to be a big disadvantge). Then he said something about when he was playing in the national championships last year, and I felt much better.

I'd like to play some good players sometime, and I bet there are many on here. I've never like studied any Scrabble dictionaries or learnt words with Q, Z, X and J in them or anything like that, which I suspect means really good and serious players might wipe the floor with me.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 28 August 2004 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link

That much more reason that there should be ilx literati...someone called me a cheating cunt once because I kept getting bingos. (xp)

Those kind of words are fairly easy to pick up on with time, Martin...we should play sometime!

JuliaA (j_bdules), Saturday, 28 August 2004 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't have enough online time really these days for games*, and have never played Literati so don't know if I'd be good at it. I think I was the ILX champ at TextTwist, if it's anything vaguely like that.

* time limits on my ISP deal, plus I'm generally doing a couple of things at once most of the time I'm online (browsing ILX, FT, other things; talking on AIM to a couple of people; answering emails), meaning either I'll miss time limits or keep an opponent waiting an unconscionable amount of time.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 28 August 2004 22:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Some mofo had the last U, when i pulled a Q on my last go. It now stands Ian 1/Carey 0.

Carey (Carey), Saturday, 28 August 2004 22:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I just played a lit game and I got 4 bingos! But Greg was having horrible luck, so it was really uneven...

JuliaA (j_bdules), Saturday, 28 August 2004 23:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm at 2055 right now, have been as high as 2170. But I'm pretty indiscriminate and will play against ratings as low as 1750, so I'm probably a natural high-1900s.

Christ, Gygax, next time I want an asskicking I'll look you up.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 28 August 2004 23:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Same to you, Martin.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 28 August 2004 23:28 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Yesterday I spelled INQUIRE, on a triple word score, with the Q on a double letter score, using all seven letters in one turn, and creating a second triple-scoring word off of the E, for a one-move total of 128 points. I will post a blurry cameraphone photo of my triumph this evening.

nabiscothingy, Wednesday, 31 August 2005 19:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Someone once played "unquoted" against me on the ISC. I still don't totally get how that's a word (how do you unquote someone?), but it did count. The word stretched across both the left and middle triple-word-score on the top row, multiplying the value by nine. With the 50-point bonus, it was worth 224 points.

merritt ranew (merritt), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 20:20 (eighteen years ago) link

"unquoted" is an adjective, not a verb.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 20:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks...The previously unquoted Forest Pines has now been quoted!

merritt ranew (merritt), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Same scene, three years later: Jackie Aprile, Jr., worst Scrabble player ever. (Three words: "ass," "poo," "the"...laid two s's so he could get four points. (Actually was after more than that, but that didn't work out either.)

clemenza, Sunday, 21 June 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link

Totally legit: "quashing" on a triple-triple for 216 + 50 = 266 points (729 for the game). I knew I was headed for a high game score, so I wanted to take a screenshot right when the game ended--it was Pogo against the computer--but I forgot they immediately go to a different screen, so I didn't get a chance to.

clemenza, Thursday, 25 June 2020 05:53 (three years ago) link

legit flex

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 25 June 2020 06:17 (three years ago) link

If you were trying to figure out the theoretically highest-scoring play you could make, I have to believe "quashing," situated so that you could hook an 's' onto the beginning for "squashing" (a triple score) and start a triple-triple in a downwards direction (you'd need to hook onto another letter in the middle of that word), would be part of it. You could probably score over 400 points on a single play.

clemenza, Thursday, 25 June 2020 06:26 (three years ago) link

I'm still sore about this 12 years later:

https://live.staticflickr.com/3292/2830369713_c6d93b2d28_c.jpg

SK(A)TINGS, 167pts penultimate move, overcoming my 155pt lead.

(I'm not really; Pam used to kill me on a regular basis.)

Michael Jones, Thursday, 25 June 2020 11:48 (three years ago) link

and a callback to the first post in the thread!

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 25 June 2020 12:45 (three years ago) link

"Skatings"--I'll never understand some of the permissible pluralizations of -ing words in Scrabble. Even "skating" as a noun seems weird to me ("We had a great skating yesterday afternoon"?--wouldn't you just say "We had a great skate"?).

I thought about (s)quashing, and I don't think you could get over 400. If you hooked on "sizzlers," with the first 'z' a blank and the common 's' in the top left corner, you'd get:

squashing = 22 x 3 = 66
sizzlers = 26 x 9 = 234
bonus = 50

total = 350

Which is less than the record play, 392 for "caziques."

http://bestlifeonline.com/highest-scoring-scrabble-move/

Now I'm compelled to figure out "caziques" hooked onto "quashing." That might do it.

clemenza, Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link

looked @ some screenshots, its almost the 4 yr anniversary of someone playing 'uniquest' on me for 275 pts in wwf (final score of that game was 737-428, i kept it respectable lol)

johnny crunch, Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

This has already been a big issue a couple of times in the past (going back to the late '70s, I think).

http://www.cnn.com/2020/07/09/us/scrabble-slurs-ban-trnd/index.html

clemenza, Friday, 10 July 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

This was a good article on the debate, especially on the reasons not to ban them:

https://slate.com/human-interest/2020/06/scrabble-players-debate-slurs.html

neith moon (ledge), Friday, 10 July 2020 09:33 (three years ago) link

Thanks, I'll read that for sure. It was Stefan Fatsis I blame for my addiction in the first place--his Word Freak got me started 15 years ago.

clemenza, Friday, 10 July 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link

That was interesting, thanks. Yeah, it's a tough call. Words are often offensive based on how they are used, or certainly how they are received, but they're still ... words, with meanings, offensive or not, that could and do appear in books, and music, and movies, in all sorts of contexts, sometimes to be offensive, sometimes to comment on offensiveness, and so on. Removing these words from Scrabble play seems like a slippery slope, not because of censorship or because it's any great loss, but because there must be countless dumb semi-words in the Scrabble dictionary that probably have equal basis for removal once you apply some sort of (non-point) value to it. At the same time, there are some words whose complete erasure from the English language would probably make the world a better place, so ... I dunno.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 July 2020 13:32 (three years ago) link

Hmm, thinking about it a couple of more minutes more, I think a better solution could have been to allow those words but penalize their play. Fewer points, or subtracting a few points, something like that, which would both disincentivize their use and also acknowledge their offensiveness. Just like in professional sports, there are certain things you can do to foul or draw a foul or otherwise do something wrong on purpose strategically, even if it comes at a cost. Playing these words could have been recontextualized as desperation moves that come at a price, which I assume is kind of how they were often played, anyway.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 July 2020 13:56 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Kudos to Gabriel in The Americans (Frank Langella), who plays both "phlox" and "stygian" against a very skeptical Philip. (Philip lays "askew," no blanks visible, and is credited with 20 points on a double-word score. The only way that works is if he extended "as" with the "kew," but why would either of these very good players have played "as"?)

clemenza, Saturday, 22 August 2020 02:08 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Usual disclaimer: against the Pogo computer, where you're allowed to "steal" a blank (i.e., if the blank's on the board and you have the matching letter on your rack, you can switch). So scoring is much easier (I'm over 400 about 90% of the time).

I think this is my highest single-game score ever, and also the first time I laid two triple-triples ("quainter" and "braiders"--the first was for 203 points). I took a screenshot of the board right before my final play, but then accidentally replaced it with this.

http://phildellio.tripod.com/778.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 03:14 (three years ago) link

sweet!

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 03:17 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

I can't seem to post photos anymore on ILX, so you'll have to trust me here...Highest single play ever, I'm pretty sure: "mesquite" across a triple-triple, with the 'q' falling on the double-letter, 311 points (261 for the play + bonus). I laid down "quite" initially--the 'u' was already down--which would have been worth 72, noticed 'mes' still on the rack; "'mesquite,' that sounds familiar..." It was my third play of the game: I started with "cutties," then "tux" for 26, so I had 411 points after three plays. Followed with "wailers," and I started thinking of an 800-point game. Finished with 735.

Pogo, computer, etc.

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 03:33 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

I can post photos again, so here was my "mesquite" play from two months ago.

https://phildellio.tripod.com/mesquite.jpg

Also, I took Scrabble as my category for a Zoom trivia group tonight. My questions:

1. What are two most valuable tiles in terms of point value?
2. What are the two most valuable tiles strategically?
3. Which three consonants are the most common tiles (name one)?
4. What is a triple-triple?
5. Within 100 points either way, what is the highest game score ever in tournament play?
6. Within 10 years either way, when was the game invented?
7. What is the 7-letter word that uses the ‘q’ and all five vowels?
8. What is the meaning of either ‘qi’ or ‘za’?
9. Name one of the two famous game companies that rejected Scrabble?
10. In the film Rosemary’s Baby, what does Rosemary learn when she spills out all the Scrabble tiles and starts anagramming?

Obviously, some of those are giveaways. My categories for the last three--movies, post-war presidents, and the Beatles--produced average scores of 2 or 3 out 10, even though I thought most of the questions were basic. So I'm feeling pressure to up those scores. Meanwhile, I routinely score 2 or 3 out of 10 on categories like Italian cooking or inventions. I live in a different universe, evidently.

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link

365 points on one play ("quizzers")--she out-mesquited me.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/chatham-scrabble-word-score-quizzers-1.5915155

clemenza, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 01:06 (three years ago) link

The fuck.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 01:10 (three years ago) link

ha that is great, I love that the app enables some official validation

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 02:59 (three years ago) link

Not only did she draw two z's and a q, but also the necessary u, plus some other nice vowels and an s. Her word play was excellent, but her tile draw was off the charts and over the moon.

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 04:14 (three years ago) link

I think best of all, it's not some obscure word that no one has ever heard of.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 13:16 (three years ago) link

Classic until somebody starts trying to tell me I can't have Antinazi cos they want it to need a hyphen.
Gorlumme what a complete load of tosh. plenitude of irrational convolution, like.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 13:20 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

After almost 20 years and approximately ___________ games of online Scrabble (too embarrassed to fill that in), first time I ever played "gumshoe."

https://phildellio.tripod.com/gumshoe.jpg

clemenza, Thursday, 4 March 2021 03:43 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Scrabble Go accepts the word "grrrl".

Just thought you should know.

Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

This has happened to me before, and it's pretty much the best evidence I can think of that you play way, way too much Scrabble: you're looking at f-l-o-w-e-r-s on your rack, and your first thought is "Is that a word? Someone or something that flows?"

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 23:21 (one year ago) link

There is a great story in Gwen Raverat's "Period Piece," her memoir of growing up in the Darwin household, where they're playing anagrams and Charles Darwin wanders through, looks at the board and goes "Moth-er? There's no such word as "moth-er."

Lily Dale, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link

Sounds about right. You just start to see words differently, automatically breaking them down into recognizable building blocks, and four-letter-verb + "ers" are the easiest bingos to spot, hence "flow-ers."

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 02:48 (one year ago) link


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