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oh, it's not a choice

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 11 September 2004 02:33 (nineteen years ago) link

There's a great Mexican restaurant called Mama Ninfa's that kicks a giant platter of mole-coated ass. That's about all Houston has going for it as far as I've experienced.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 11 September 2004 02:38 (nineteen years ago) link

"alex in houston" has a nice ring to it.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 11 September 2004 03:04 (nineteen years ago) link

go see a baseball game. the park is nice. you're lucky too because i think the worst of the heat has just passed, tho there may be a death rattle coming up. (and by passed i mean it's now only in the lower 90s)

ryan (ryan), Saturday, 11 September 2004 03:06 (nineteen years ago) link

"alex in houston" has a nice ring to it.

That'll never happen. Believe you me.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 11 September 2004 03:13 (nineteen years ago) link

what days will you be in houston?

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Saturday, 11 September 2004 05:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Important -- what part of Houston will you be in? It's about 40 miles diameter in any direction. S P R A W L.

But no matter where you are, get some mexican food. It'll be better than you're used to, almost regardless of what you're used to. And drink some beer. Maybe get stuck in traffic and slap a cow in the ass. Then you're done.

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 11 September 2004 05:49 (nineteen years ago) link

cajun is what to eat, yes?

Wrong state, son. But if you come to Houston by way of Lafayette, then yes, stop and suck some crawfish heads. You'll either love it or think it's the nasty mud food of the nasty mud folk.

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 11 September 2004 05:55 (nineteen years ago) link

and be sure to scour houston in search of BUSHWICK BILL

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 11 September 2004 05:57 (nineteen years ago) link

But keep your eyes peeled. He's real small.

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 11 September 2004 05:57 (nineteen years ago) link

(the fact that BUSHWICK BILL [and scarface] are from houston are about the only redeemable things that i can think of wr2 houston)

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 11 September 2004 05:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe, but you haven't seen their neighborhoods.

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 11 September 2004 05:59 (nineteen years ago) link

and this year halloween DOES fall on a weekend! coincidence? I THINK NOT -- esp if gabb's still in town!!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 11 September 2004 05:59 (nineteen years ago) link

gabb & geto boys be trick or treatin'

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 11 September 2004 05:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I like it like that.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 11 September 2004 06:07 (nineteen years ago) link

so bushwick bill is houston's face to the world? like, from the cover of "we can't be stopped?"

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Saturday, 11 September 2004 06:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I like to think of this as Houston's face:

ihttp://www.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2001/12/136381.jpg

It's one of the special bonus buildings in Sim City 3000!

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 11 September 2004 12:24 (nineteen years ago) link

"That'll never happen. Believe you me."

Oh crap, sounds like Alex found out about our "No Killing Joke Ordinance" of 1999.

Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Saturday, 11 September 2004 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Hahahahaha

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 11 September 2004 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link

but houston surely "honours the fire," what with all of those oil and gas pipes?!?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 11 September 2004 18:52 (nineteen years ago) link

outside the loop (and not in previously mentioned southeast part) it's just like anywhere else sub/exurbia. i've been down to a sort of hip part of main street, downtown, where they got the toy trolly now. good food and drink, though the youths around today have gotten to be status-symbol crazy, in the extreme. you'll probably notice that too. most people however are really almost ridiculously nice.

duke 610, Saturday, 11 September 2004 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link

uh oh, 'ridiculously nice' people.

I'll be near City Hall. it sounds like it's not worth going too far? i won't have a car, most likely. is it easy to get cabs early evening? or is the trolley good enough?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 11 September 2004 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link

i dunno much about the trolley it was just built last year for the superbowl. the entire downtown grid is walkable (esp. underground!)

duke underneath, Saturday, 11 September 2004 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link

most people however are really almost ridiculously nice.

The myth about the south that never seems to die. Most people in Houston are about as nice as most people anywhere else.

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 11 September 2004 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Which is to say, reasonably.

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 11 September 2004 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link

yes but i know of what i speak on both counts. plus you are there already, right? try coming up to the northeast for a spell (or say 11 years).

duke eleven, Saturday, 11 September 2004 20:07 (nineteen years ago) link

it's not so much nice as "polite," though they are pretty nice here i think.

i am always shocked at how often people honk their car horns up north.

ryan (ryan), Saturday, 11 September 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

or just freak out over nothing in general.

duke general, Saturday, 11 September 2004 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost Oh, I know! But usually it's just an "I'm over here! Look out!" and not really intended or taken as rude. It's more polite to hit somebody down south than it is to honk at them. That'll get you shot, no lie.

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 11 September 2004 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link

getting very angry about honking = not very nice. The rules are different, is all.

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 11 September 2004 20:15 (nineteen years ago) link

"rude" is really a southern concept.

duke tinfoil, Saturday, 11 September 2004 20:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I think you're right. And I think ryan is OTM about rude being the opposite of polite, not the opposite of nice.

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 11 September 2004 20:19 (nineteen years ago) link

what y'all consider 'nice', i probably consider 'rude,' while what i consider 'polite,' southerners probably consider 'rude'

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 11 September 2004 20:19 (nineteen years ago) link

People down south seem to have more personal space issues, I've noticed. Probably comes from never having taken public transportation ever in their lives.

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 11 September 2004 20:21 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah but sometimes all the hospitality can seem to almost completely disregard any sense of personal privacy, not in the sense of space but with emotions et al. like a "there are no secrets here" kinda thing.

duke private, Saturday, 11 September 2004 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link

exactly. it's none of your business how i'm doing today.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 11 September 2004 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link

living closer together means being more guarded, naturally. I'm beginning to understand what duke meant by "ridiculously nice," meaning it's not always a good thing.

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 11 September 2004 20:26 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost
oh a fair amount of people in houston have absolutely no compunction about that i can assure you. like the carpet cleaner guy, the waiter, etc.

duke assure, Saturday, 11 September 2004 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha. Ridiculously nice. Wow, that's hilarious. HAHAHAHAH.

(I live in Houston, in case you haven't gathered that yet.)

Well, I used to HATE Houston, because some people are just assholes, but then I realized they're everywhere, and conjured the ability of tuning them out. All I know is that I honk like a madman along with my music, but that's just me. People don't really seem to pay attention to the horn at all in Houston anyways. Everyone has music blaring so it doesn't even matter.

Conservative? Those chicks at my school wearing skirts and short shorts? And low-cut shirts, spaghetti straps and all? Or like Right-wing people who think that government is God? No, we all worship our guns, although we are very concealed in that matter. We all have about 10 guns, but no one ever mentions them, and we seldom shoot them except at Hot Wells. I love the opportunities in Houston and all of the businesses. Houston is NOT made for tourists. It's made for people to be very stressed out about and drive around, finding the place that's perfect for them. Like a niche. You find your niche and everything is great. I've found several places that I go to quite often, and just stick with that. It's got a lot of fun stuff to do now, but nothing spectacular. There ARE a lot of Conservative Christians, but they don't bite. They're pretty shy. There are a lot of liberals too. I mean A LOT. I'd say we're more democratic than republic. Our government is in our guns. We control our own little dictatorships, inside every one of us.

By the way, I love cajun food!

aNatheMa (aNatheMa), Saturday, 11 September 2004 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Houston is NOT made for tourists.

i often wonder if houston is made for people. i think really it's made for cars. people are incidental, we're like the horses required to pull the carriages. when the robots are perfected, the cars won't need us anymore and we'll all be kicked out.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Saturday, 11 September 2004 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link

i shot a .45 at hot wells once. and i think i was like ten years old!

duke ridiculous, Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:24 (nineteen years ago) link

if i make it to new york on my trip to providence, i wonder if the girls will be like margot tenenbaum and the daughter of the friend and lover of the youngest sibling in the corrections who danced by barely moving.

yes, i guess in that case the perspective of being a tourist in your own city would not be worth it.

youn, Sunday, 12 September 2004 02:48 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry to get pedestrian here, but anyone know anything about the Doubletree Allen Center (which is maybe in one of the photos above)?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 01:20 (nineteen years ago) link

also, if i manage to get a free day here, would it be worth forgoing the tourist attractions of Houston for the Space Center?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 01:47 (nineteen years ago) link

anyone?

I'll be in town, without a car, from Monday night through the following Sunday evening, staying in the theatre district. I get all of Saturday off for sightseeing, but otherwise am likely limited to after 5:30-6 on T-F, and a few hours on Sunday, lugging around a suitcase. Ideally, I want to see the Menil Collection/Rothko Chapel, the Space Center, Hermann Park and Rice. Especially the first two. Pretty much the only way I can do the Space Center is to take a bus tour that will eat up the day until 5. If I do that, I basically have to take a cab to Menil to get in maybe an hour on Fri/Sat/other night(s). Am I better off skipping the Space Center and giving myself as much Sat freedom as possible? And what do I do with a suitcase on Sunday? Take the trolley to the park and lie in the grass for a few hours? And where can I hear Zydeco on Saturday night?

Instead of the Space Center, I could also take a day trip to Galveston. Any reason i'd want to do this? I've never been to the Gulf Coast.

Also, are the 'Bayou's in Houston pronounced Bye-U, Bye-O, or Bay-O?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 26 September 2004 04:27 (nineteen years ago) link

bye u
skip space center go over to area arond rice "rice village" and/or over to galleria area.

http://www.galactic-guide.com/articles/2R52.html

you could end up at least having an ironic good time

duke loupe, Sunday, 26 September 2004 04:46 (nineteen years ago) link

though this omits the quaids and geto boys it does include p.j. proby and south park mexican...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston#List_of_famous_and_infamous_people_raised_in_Houston

duke park, Sunday, 26 September 2004 04:54 (nineteen years ago) link

skip space center because it's just not that good? i'm mildly interested in space stuff, but it's unclear what's unique about the tour there

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 26 September 2004 04:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I should rent a car and visit Lyle Lovett

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 26 September 2004 05:02 (nineteen years ago) link

christ almighty it was humid today! morning rain + sunny afternoon = death! i hope this clears up soon.

i am in the rice area (rice grad student) and im not sure what there is to "see" but the trees are cool if you get off on that sort of thing. hell my favorite thing to do is look at the houses in river oaks.

we went to the space center for a field trip when i was 14 or so, i cant really remember much, other than it had just opened. im sure it is a lot different now, it's been about 11 years.

ryan (ryan), Sunday, 26 September 2004 05:52 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm going in a couple of weeks, so bump more for convenience as it seems to be quite a thorough thread. no idea how much free time i'll have, the rothko chapel and menil collection are probably top of my list should i get enough time to myself, but is there anything which hasn't been covered here already?

i have the day to myself in houston today. my plan is more or less the same as lex here - any more tips??

out here like a flopson (tpp), Sunday, 7 December 2014 14:21 (nine years ago) link

is the contemporary arts museum worth visiting?

out here like a flopson (tpp), Sunday, 7 December 2014 15:25 (nine years ago) link

The CAM is a large box with month-long exhibits. The Fine Arts Museum across the street is good, the De Menil collection a mile or so away is excellent, for permanent exhibits.

TTAGGGTTAGGG (Sanpaku), Sunday, 7 December 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link

thx. rothko chapel & de menil were both great. loved some of the stuff in the surrealist exhibition.

stopped somewhere for lunch on the way back. they seemed to be doing bottomless cocktails and everyone was getting wasted despite the fact there was absolutely no way to get to this place without driving. i don't get this place!

driving back out west to my hotel i saw this lakewood church. man what the hell is that??

out here like a flopson (tpp), Monday, 8 December 2014 01:39 (nine years ago) link

It's the largest (in membership) single site church in America, with 43,500 attending attending weekly sermons of prosperity theology. The building is a former basketball arena once known as The Summit.

http://lightingdesignalliance.com/project_images/lakewoodchurch002.jpg

I commuted by it daily and found it deeply repulsive.

TTAGGGTTAGGG (Sanpaku), Monday, 8 December 2014 01:55 (nine years ago) link

I figured it was a former hospital by the looks of it.

People drive everywhere in Houston all the time whether wasted or not. It is the driving-est city I have ever experienced (note: I have not experienced L.A.). Also the only city in Texass where I regularly stop for drive-thru margaritas. I heart Triple Shot Tuesdays!!!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 8 December 2014 04:44 (nine years ago) link

(I figured Lakewood was a former hospital from the outside, that is)

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 8 December 2014 04:44 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

I knew Houston was a little fucked up since it has NO ZONING LAWS, but I didn't realize how ridiculous it got in some places.

For example, see this nice little residential neighborhood with townhomes and sidewalks? Great place for a CREMATORIUM.

http://i.imgur.com/160lnGH.jpg

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At least when you have parties here, your guests won't have to park on the street.

http://i.imgur.com/jiXQRLq.jpg

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Plenty of parking here, for at least the first 4/5's of your car.

http://i.imgur.com/3FTt9pv.png

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Maybe you're looking for something within walking distance of all the shops....

http://i.imgur.com/Q7UpfUp.jpg

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Imagine a backyard where every day there's a solar eclipse!

http://i.imgur.com/p4c89S7.jpg

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You only thought Dillard's sold everything.

http://i.imgur.com/GjH7AEp.jpg

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And I had to doublecheck, but no, this isn't a screengrab from that Woody Allen movie.

http://i.imgur.com/hbSDlfL.jpg

pplains, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link

reasons why limited government is bad, part #27548

i can't stop laughing at ZONE D'EROTICA tho, the d' really classes it up

frankfurters take on new glamour in this gleaming aspic (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 14:18 (six years ago) link

I just realized the name of that place rubs the lack of urban planning in the city's face.

pplains, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 14:23 (six years ago) link

hahaha, Zone D'Erotica is even more hilarious when you know they plunked one right next to the Galleria, one of the most upscale retail areas in the city.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 14:26 (six years ago) link

i've changed my mind, limited government is good again

frankfurters take on new glamour in this gleaming aspic (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link

Tbf, I'm pretty sure that crematorium was there before those apartments.

Fun Fact: The Zone D'Erotica building started out as a Roy Rogers burger stand way back when. These days I think it's a Houston 420 shop, although I haven't looked in that direction the last several times I was in the neighborhood.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 14:48 (six years ago) link

Didn't Zone D'Erotica come after the Houston 420 at the Galleria location? I admit I... zone it out and don't really notice anymore. It's just that hilarious prurient retailer next to 610 at the Galleria. It's like all the Planet Ks in Austin, you don't notice them until you need to get your bong fixed.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 14:59 (six years ago) link

As of February 2017, still Zone D'Erotica, per Streetview. It was there dating back to the mid-90s (at least), if memory serves.

Obliterati (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link

eight months pass...

Going to Houston for a quick weekend at beginning of June for baseball. Also Looking for Vietnamese, African, Creole/Cajun, and barbecue food ideas.

curmudgeon, Monday, 7 May 2018 04:41 (five years ago) link

rent a car so you can drive to all the good restaurants, which mostly live in strip malls in the vast suburbs ringing the city.

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 7 May 2018 14:05 (five years ago) link

yeah a vehicle is a must-have in Houston

preferably an F150 pickup

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 7 May 2018 15:19 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

So we had a great time in Houston and ate Indian, Ghanaian, African-American Barbecue, Mexican and went to an Astros game, a tour of their stadium, a zydeco & more accordions concert, museums, art car museum and stuff. At a free outdoor funky folk art park we started talking to someone else who was there checking it out. He was a writer for GQ and his article proclaiming Houston the capital of southern cool is now out:

https://www.gq.com/story/houston-restaurants-capital-of-southern-cool

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 12:23 (five years ago) link

What were some of the restaurants you liked? I need to get to know Houston better.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 12:25 (five years ago) link

As others spelled out above, Houston is sprawling and restaurants are spread out in strip malls and neighborhoods all over. We liked the below (Anthony Bourdain featured Himalaya and Burns Original BBQ on his Houston episode)

Afrikiko restaurant- Ghanaian place

Gorditas Aquascalientes -Mexican

La Guadalupana Cafe and Bakery- Mexican

Himalaya Restaurant- Indian and Pakistani

Burns Original Barbeque - African-American

curmudgeon, Thursday, 30 August 2018 01:25 (five years ago) link

I was a fan of Himalaya when I lived in SW Houston. At the time, the general recommendation was to let the 60-something proprietor pick out what he wanted you to eat. The pilaf dishes were huge.

At the time, I would have also called out Caracal (Mexican seafood), Mai's (midtown Vietnamese), Blue Nile (best Ethiopian I've had in 4 cities, not incl. DC), Star Pizza (Chicago style pizza).

Should I ever mend bridges with my mother, I'll drag her to Afrikiko, that sounds fun.

nonderepressible (Sanpaku), Thursday, 30 August 2018 01:41 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

When I was in Houston a little while back, I ran into writer Joe Nick Patoski at a zydeco and Cajun show at a park. He told me he was going to southern soul bar the Silver Slipper. He didn't mention they had live music, just the jukebox. I didn't go. I should have.

http://www.texashighways.com/culture-lifestyle/item/9051-experience-one-of-the-best-live-music-scenes-in-texas-at-houston-s-silver-slipper

curmudgeon, Sunday, 23 September 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link

eight months pass...
nine months pass...

https://i.imgur.com/sYAi983.jpg

pplains, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 15:49 (four years ago) link

ten months pass...

Ha! Was just coming here to post that a taco place is opening up where the Galleria Zone D'Erotica was, only to see that the news was broke here by me upthread almost two years ago.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:10 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

WE GOT 50 CENT

I Love NY, but i live in Houston now i’ll explain later.🚦Green Light Gang 💣BOOM💥 pic.twitter.com/z6FAkAYwB4

— 50cent (@50cent) May 4, 2021

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 20:40 (two years ago) link

did he buy the Astrodome and move into it?

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 20:46 (two years ago) link

Possibly! Would make as much sense as any other plans for it.

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 21:41 (two years ago) link


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