What is the correct onomotopaeic spelling of the Law & Order sound?

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Besides a synthesizer, what instrument would make this noise? I picture something hollow and thick, almost like something made of animal horn or wood, but really large, struck in a big echo-y room.

Jesse, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

from the same Mike Post thing I just quoted: "I found a sample of a jail door closing, and I put it with a couple of little other sounds, and made this ching-ching thing."

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:21 (sixteen years ago) link

DUNG DUNG

-- n/a, Friday, October 26, 2007 11:16 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

deej, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I picture something hollow and thick, almost like something made of animal horn or wood, but really large, struck in a big echo-y room.

Like a...gavel?

Eazy, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, wait, it's not just a gavel, it's also a cell door slamming shut!

Eazy, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:25 (sixteen years ago) link

and monks stomping on a floor

El Tomboto, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

seriously there are people who thought that was a gavel?

El Tomboto, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

are you deaf?

El Tomboto, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Belzer calls it a gavel in the USA promo.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Belzer's deaf, tho.

HI DERE, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link

BADONKADONK

elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Not like a gavel, no. Unless it is a gigantic, hollow, sonorous gavel.

Jesse, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Processed gavel sound, yes.

Eazy, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Recorded up close but then mixed with a 'cathedral' setting.

Eazy, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link

gavel: chopped and screwed

HI DERE, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I think there's a gavel in there and then a synth line added to go with it.

Eazy, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

to all those who say it is a gavel, I say:

RONG RONG

elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link

DUNG DUNG

J0rdan S., Friday, 26 October 2007 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Belzer calls it a gavel in the USA promo.

-- Alex in Baltimore, Friday, October 26, 2007 1:31 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

it was originally a gavel but the 9/11 commission in league with the vatican and the rand corporation covered it up & made it a jail door

and what, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

for the record, it's the sound of Det. Eliot Stabler slamming a child rapists' face twice into the table of the interrogation room.

elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^^^ someone put that to a bangin' techno beat plz

HI DERE, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link

it's the sound Yoshi's tongue makes in Super Mario World.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link

BAN BAN

and what, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link

special poppage unit

and what, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link

l&o virginal intent

and what, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Even though it is my own fault that my brain has made a link between Mariska Hargitay and Yoshi's tongue, I am still mad at you, Alex.

HI DERE, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:45 (sixteen years ago) link

good Lord people it's CHUNG CHUNG, I thought you had to answer this question correctly before they give you a driver's license in most states

J0hn D., Friday, 26 October 2007 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link

All options here seem to suggest that it's the same sound both times! But there's a total difference in what MIDI would call, umm, velocity.

nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean, it's got the same phrasing as "ch-ching," if instead of "ching" the root were "dung."

nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link

This is my compy's "you f'ed up" sound. DUNG DUNG.

I just watched one last night about a writer in some blackmail circle, was surprisingly good. Second ep I've ever seen and fuck if I need another TV show to zone out to but there it is.

Abbott, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link

nabisco, sorry, but the metrical rhythm of this sound is definitely spondaic, not iambic

elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

QONG QONG

doesn't this sound out as "chung chung" in pinyin?

gff, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I think you have that backwards elmo - "ch-ching" would be short-long/unstressed-stressed, in the theme the second beat is harder/longer = it's an iamb

J0hn D., Friday, 26 October 2007 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link

You're right, Elmo, I'm remembering it backwards.

It's almost like a long delay/echo that's been truncated to just two sounds: DUNG-Dung (dung dung dung dung...)

nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link

!!!! CONFUSION

nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

you're a dactyl

remy bean, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

also john and tokyo rosemary are right: it's CHUNG CHUNG.

remy bean, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:12 (sixteen years ago) link

J0hn I think Elmo's right! First one shorter but more stressed: DA-dunnng

nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:12 (sixteen years ago) link

doesn't this sound out as "chung chung" in pinyin?

Not quite. QENG QENG would be closer to "chung chung."

jaymc, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:12 (sixteen years ago) link

there's absolutely nothing resembling a hard "ch-" sound in it.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link

no no! both beats have the same emphasis! SPONDEE.

elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_&_Order#The_card.2C_and_the_sound

This is accompanied by a tone, which has been described as a "DUN dun" or "thunk thunk" sound. It was originally developed to sound like a barred door in a jail cell slamming shut (Law). In promos for Law & Order: Special Victims Unit reruns on the USA Network, actor Dann Florek refers to the sound as the "doink doink"[9], while Richard Belzer refers to it as the sound of a judge's gavel. According to IMDb.com, it "was created by combining close to a dozen sounds, including that of a group of monks stamping on a floor."

Tomboto was right.

Eazy, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link

i'd call it KUNG KUNG tbh

gff, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:15 (sixteen years ago) link

both beats have the same emphasis, elmo's right. it's just that first one's overwritten by the attack of the second one, which is allowed a slow decay.

remy bean, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link

no no! both beats have the same emphasis! SPONDEE.

I definitely hear the first one shorter/more staccato but haven't counted the note values so you could be right

J0hn D., Friday, 26 October 2007 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link

ARGH I thought you were saying it was trochaic.

I need to hear this now! I feel there is a definite variation between the two sounds -- length, obviously, but also MIDI velocity! I'm sure of it!

nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:18 (sixteen years ago) link

nabisco: follow the link at the top of the thread?

remy bean, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.audiologyillustrated.org/images/spondee.jpeg

elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link

If it were just length, the second one cutting off the decay/release of the first, it would sound like a stutter, and artificial. But it doesn't; it sounds more like an echo than a stutter -- the sounds are definitely shaped to be different, so they read naturally. The exact same sound triggered twice ... sounds like it.

nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link

The one for Trial By Jury should be the anguished squeal of a man getting punched in the nuts.

HI DERE, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dCV5G-ZTc14

haahahaaha holy shit everybody needs to watch this

and what, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

how come special victims unit was never this amazing when i tried to watch it

and what, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

BARBIE I LOVE YOU

max, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link

hahaha

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link

IM COMIN FOR YA BARBIE

and what, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link

DONT MAKE ME HURT YOU... YOURE JUST JEALOUS OF HER BEAUTY!!!!

and what, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link

omg

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't watch SVU at all because Meloni is permanently typecast in my mind as the camp cook in WHAS

I wish I had sound right now

El Tomboto, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link

SVU is almost always this awesome.

HI DERE, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link

haha that whole thing was just a setup to get meloni out of the episode!

gff, Monday, 29 October 2007 18:31 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.cookcountycourt.org/images/1.gif

Jesse, Monday, 29 October 2007 18:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

and the end of the clip the letter M calls the sound "chung chung"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2CSkLR6mUQ

jbsquared, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 00:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Thursday, 1 November 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

i just walked by another Law & Order shoot this morning and when passing the crew suppressed an almost irresistible urge to shout "DUNH DUNH!" at them.

sanskrit, Thursday, 1 November 2007 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link

haha

rrrobyn, Thursday, 1 November 2007 14:17 (sixteen years ago) link

"other" was robbed. none of the given options were right.

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 1 November 2007 14:18 (sixteen years ago) link

¡Tchkung!¡Tchkung!

dan m, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:05 (sixteen years ago) link

it's "DUNG GUNK" obv

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:15 (sixteen years ago) link

BUNKUM

El Tomboto, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

¡Tchkung!¡Tchkung!

Minus the Spanish exclamation points, this looks like a Wade-Giles transliteration of a Pinyin version already mentioned.

jaymc, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Kraftwerk to thread!

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link

ny times weighs in
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/arts/television/04kant.html?_r=1&ref=arts&oref=slogin

mizzell, Saturday, 3 November 2007 14:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Great is the truth and it prevails

gabbneb, Saturday, 3 November 2007 15:49 (sixteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

need an iphone app for this

Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Friday, 10 October 2008 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link

BIG HOOS

jigglepanda.gif (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 10 October 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link

hahaha how did I miss "FART BATH" before

al kaline trio (dan m), Friday, 10 October 2008 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

'shump shump'

akm, Friday, 10 October 2008 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link


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