Marijuana: Classic or Dud?

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sitting around being shit scared to talk

so on the money. why am i always the most stoned person in the room :((
also the staelth hangover can be a bitch.

:| (....), Sunday, 14 November 2004 19:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I used to hate getting high and sitting there having no idea what the fuck everyone was talking about. So then I hung out sober and watched them smoke up. Guess what? I still had no idea what the fuck everyone was talking about.

And saying that music sounds better high is like saying ugly chicks look fuckable whist drunk.

Pot tasted like a dirty sponge, and I've also figured out that I don't need any more help being lethargic and sleepy. Dud for me.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Sunday, 14 November 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Music sounds DIFFERENT when stoned. YOu hear all kindsa things you wouldn't ordinarily hear.It's cool. But, yeah, it can make bad music sound interesting. But that's kinda cool too. I don't really smoke a lot of pot. every blue moon. but i would never hang out with potheads. that sounds awful. i mean, i used to when i was younger. i hung out with lots of people i would run screaming from today. it's better as a substitute for booze in the safety of your own home with a goofy movie or t.v. show to watch or an entertaining record on the hi-fi.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 14 November 2004 20:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Dud in every way

caitlin (caitlin), Sunday, 14 November 2004 20:17 (nineteen years ago) link

people who take pot SERIOUSY, they are the ones to run from. the people who see it as a substitute for a couple of beers while they are watching Wife Swap, they are the more attractive pot smokers to me, The take it or leave it pot smokers. (the kind of pot smoker that doesn't even tell people they smoke pot. The people you would never even GUESS smoke pot. they are the cool ones.)

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 14 November 2004 20:19 (nineteen years ago) link

DUD in every way except for some good music having been made under its influence.
still, you gotta wonder if that isn't cancelled out by even larger amount of crap music...

Paul (scifisoul), Sunday, 14 November 2004 20:46 (nineteen years ago) link

used to be classic, now total dud. anxiety, fear of people looking at me, fear of mirrors, fear, fear, fear. and flashbacks, believe it or not.

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Sunday, 14 November 2004 20:47 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, i used to get horrible panic attacks from pot when i was younger. i come from a long line of panic attack sufferers. my brother used to smoke every day and he would call the ambulance when he thought he was dying. so, i stayed away for years. when i was older i tried it cuz i was bored and it wasn't bad at all. i just don't feel the same. so, in my teens i could smoke pot: no biggie. but my 20's: no way. 30's: kinda nice every once in awhile. (hell, 2 or 3 times a year is enough for me.)

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 14 November 2004 20:53 (nineteen years ago) link

dud, for same reasons as scott suggests: doesn't go well with anyone who has ever suffered from any kind of anxiety...

paulhw (paulhw), Sunday, 14 November 2004 21:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm surprised so many people are saying DUD.

The only dud thing about it is that I'm about to run out and don't know where to easily get more

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 14 November 2004 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Neither classic or dud, it's just a fairly mild drug. I don't really smoke anymore, except if I'm at a party, and someone passes me some.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Sunday, 14 November 2004 21:14 (nineteen years ago) link

sub topic:
search and destroy: depictions of pot use in movies/TV:

search: larry david talking to himself in the mirror on curb your enthusiasm.

Elliot (Elliot), Sunday, 14 November 2004 21:26 (nineteen years ago) link

search: Peter Sellers's at the coctail party in "I Love You Alice B. Toklas"

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 14 November 2004 21:29 (nineteen years ago) link

classic, dudes!

big chaki (chaki), Sunday, 14 November 2004 21:32 (nineteen years ago) link

search: mark ruffalo in "you can count on me"

cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 14 November 2004 21:34 (nineteen years ago) link

dud. pot makes me vomit after one puff

phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 14 November 2004 21:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Re TV references: Destroy: Ross and Chandler giggling about how they "got high" in Friends. Like a couple of morons who probably didn't inhale. Though obviously Bill Clinton = classic. Because no-one believed him/

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 14 November 2004 21:38 (nineteen years ago) link

obvious classic: Big Lebowski

shookout (shookout), Sunday, 14 November 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Other obvious classic: Brad Pitt in True Romance.

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 14 November 2004 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic: The Breakfast Club. Not matter what anyone says.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Sunday, 14 November 2004 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link

haha, i was just thinking that for both classic and dud :)

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 14 November 2004 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah thats a tough call.

Elliot (Elliot), Sunday, 14 November 2004 22:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Dazed and Confused for an authentic 70s style buzz.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 14 November 2004 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Just simply not for me. Drugs just don't interest me, while smoking is not something I'd do with tobacco due to family loss (lung cancer, etc.) = my reasons for not smoking pot are even greater.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 November 2004 22:10 (nineteen years ago) link

ned, you can always vaporize.

cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 14 November 2004 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link

also: are you saying you haven't heard LOVELESS stoned NED?

cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 14 November 2004 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Shrewd questions arise as a result of this vaporization claim. And no, I haven't. Hell, I heard it live from the band itself in a packed club when the volume and power of the music made it feel like rapture compacted, *anything* is a comedown after that.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 November 2004 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link

that's all well and good, but have you ever heard it live from the band itself in a packed club when the volume and power of the music made it feel like rapture compacted...on WEED???

Elliot (Elliot), Sunday, 14 November 2004 22:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't believe ANYONE could listen to that much Smashing Pumpkins and not be on drugs. I think he's lying.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 14 November 2004 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic for the first 6 months, dud there on.

3underscore (___), Sunday, 14 November 2004 22:30 (nineteen years ago) link

that's all well and good, but have you ever heard it live from the band itself in a packed club when the volume and power of the music made it feel like rapture compacted...on WEED???

Horrible idea.

I can't believe ANYONE could listen to that much Smashing Pumpkins and not be on drugs. I think he's lying.

Alas, ye of little faith. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 November 2004 22:38 (nineteen years ago) link

When I was fresh-faced, appealing, worry-free, limitlessly creative: Classic, smoked every single day and functioned incredibly. At one point I was probably the most quotable teenager in Canada.

Now that naivete has gone, I look how I feel, anxieties have been unearthed by time and powders: Dud, I try not to touch it, and even when I've had a good week and say what the hey, it still FUCKS with me.

LeCoq (LeCoq), Sunday, 14 November 2004 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link

*the volume and power of the music made it feel like rapture compacted*
This is "higher" than anything I ever wrote (or thought) while stoned. Hmmm.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 14 November 2004 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I GENERATE MY OWN DRUGS! I'M THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 November 2004 22:51 (nineteen years ago) link

The funny thing about anxiety is that for a long time it never maybe me paranoid. And then I stopped doing it for a while and would do it occasionally in social situations, and after I had a really bad, near-psychotic, paranoid experience with it, it kept causing anxiety. But before that, despite my tendencies toward anxiety, it didn't make them worse. In fact, when I first started smoking it more heavily, it seemed to make it easier for me to handle social situations, but that went away really quickly. (Also we are talk about some pretty pot-friendly social situations: 24 hour modern dance performances, folkloric Brazilian music concerts, etc.)

scott is right: it makes you hear things differently, or at least it makes you think you are hearing things differently. I still think it helped me notice details I hadn't noticed before in recordings and videos, and that it made it more probable that I would discover those details; but I'm not convinced I could not have picked them up without pot (more that it made me more likely to notice them). There was a brief period after I stopped smoking pot that various music would make me think, "Oh man, I wish I were listening to this stoned," but I almost never think that now, and definitely haven't stopped enjoying music. (I think that dancing for long stretches of time also makes you hear music differently, but maybe it's more subtle.)

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 14 November 2004 22:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, I found that pot made everyday chores (going to the laundromat, cooking, maybe cleaning a bit) easier to deal with, but it tended to make it that much harder to solve problems that would arise, e.g., complaining to my land-lord about heat.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 14 November 2004 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link

ironically, me and the missus got *veh* stoned and listened to Loveless last night after getting back from a party... LUSH!

stevie (stevie), Sunday, 14 November 2004 23:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic. I watched Ferris Bueller's Day Off on Saturday night after a couple of joints, and I noticed all sorts of stuff about the film that I'd never paid any attention to before. (And I've seen the film many times.) There were a whole lot of throwaway lines and musical flourishes that took me completely by surprise. ("How can you say we didn't have fun today? We ate pancreas!")

Dud. I watched Mean Girls while stoned last night and enjoyed it so much that I revived the thread. It may not have been worth it.

Andrew (enneff), Sunday, 14 November 2004 23:24 (nineteen years ago) link

"ironically" - don't you mean "coincidentally"? Sorry, a pet peeve of mine.

Andrew (enneff), Sunday, 14 November 2004 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Though obviously Bill Clinton = classic. Because no-one believed him/

At least one of the friends that were smoking with him says that he really didn't inhale--the pot was too harsh for him, and he kept coughing it out.

Christine 'Green Leafy Dragon' Indigo (cindigo), Sunday, 14 November 2004 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link

if you don't cough you don't get off

big chaki (chaki), Sunday, 14 November 2004 23:27 (nineteen years ago) link

spot on andrew, sorry! x

stevie (stevie), Sunday, 14 November 2004 23:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic.
Marijuana Evangelists = Ultimate Dud.

-- noodle vague (noodle_vagu...), November 14th, 2004.

OTM

weed's alright i guess. it's fun for me once in a while, but i'd hate to be stoned all the time as i already live my life in an absent-minded daze.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 15 November 2004 00:58 (nineteen years ago) link

like it every now and again. I actually think, for all the crazy laughing stuff and pipes I did when I was younger, I now like weed as a more serious drug. I mean like having a joint or two with friends and chatting about stuff, on a Sunday, when you're not going out anywhere.

and obviously being in the hot sun with a great big spliff and a few beers+some music is paradise.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 15 November 2004 01:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, but being in the hot sun with a few beers and some music is paradise anyway - though marijuana is no doubt a welcome addition.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 15 November 2004 01:16 (nineteen years ago) link

doesn't go well with anyone who has ever suffered from any kind of anxiety...

This is surprising. It makes me much more comfortable socially. Not as comfortable as alcohol, but it's way better than being sober. When I'm sober and thrust into social situations (parties, mostly) I typically want to run away screaming. Pot makes it easier for me to veg out against a wall and examine the people around me; makes me feel less self-concious. (I understand it's the total opposite in many people, though.)

Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 15 November 2004 01:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I am not sure about the anxiety thing. beer or es make me feel less anxiety than if I was sober but that's probably cos I consume alot of them.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 15 November 2004 01:18 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't know if marijuana makes me feel more at ease in social situations, I'd say not. I tend to only do it as a sort of bridge between clubs and bed, or pills and beer, etc. or just on its own as I said.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 15 November 2004 01:19 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost
it is the exact opposite for me. as soon as i get a little bit stoned i start feeling like i should hide. i get really embarassed and ashamed. i think things like i'm really ugly and dumb and worthless, and a few times i've even gotten mad at myself for not going to church, etc. but i hate church; i don't even believe in god!

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Monday, 15 November 2004 01:21 (nineteen years ago) link

I have a few anxiety problems related to bipolar disorder, but I don't have any problems with cannabis at all. (I try to stay away from drugs these days as I'm not too confident in my mental health - made the mistake of taking acid again recently and reacted somewhat like Caitlin does to cannabis, a total hatred of God. I had a bad trip and spent an eternity in a godless void of infinite repetition, ocassionally upsetting people bu jabbering about God and infinity. So, as a general rule, if your mind isn't sound generally, it's best to avoid drugs) But I find cannabis can be a temporary respite from depression, though I find I feel worse the day after.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 15 November 2004 01:25 (nineteen years ago) link

would you say the effect lines up with the description?

xp

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 5 October 2023 18:13 (six months ago) link

Xpost - someone must, right? It's just not the norm. The design on that packaging is v good.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 5 October 2023 18:30 (six months ago) link

yeah that brand should win some sort of design award.

"would you say the effect lines up with the description?"

more or less. mostly feel which ones make you feel up and the ones that don't. don't know about any love vibes on the love one.

i will say that the camino gummy i had the other night is marketed as *bliss* for its effect and man it was really truth in advertising. i totally felt blissful. this doesn't always happen with gummies.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 October 2023 18:34 (six months ago) link

i just think that this is the beginning of people using science to make the perfect thc pills that will have all kinds of effects. its a brave new world. people have never really made edibles on such a massive scale before.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 October 2023 18:36 (six months ago) link

In the end, imo it doesn't matter if any of these (really well packaged!) products actually provide the precise promised/desired effects as long as the person taking them thinks they do. This stuff is pretty hard to quantify, especially (after so many years of suppression) with little research to back up any specific claims. Iirc one of the factors hampering federal legalization is the sheer number of compounds in cannabis, close to 500, some 70 or so of them psychoactive, and few of them studied in isolation.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 October 2023 19:16 (six months ago) link

SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY IIRC

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 5 October 2023 19:21 (six months ago) link

For years we've had a pretty reliable baked-goods supplier that delivered. But her dosing is, um, not particularly measured.

I switched to delta 8/9 gummies and am happy with how predictable they are.

Smoking is not pleasant for me.

The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 5 October 2023 19:54 (six months ago) link

i really do think these legal stores are a boon for people who never liked smoking pot but who want a little something something at the end of a long day at the fulfillment center.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 October 2023 20:25 (six months ago) link

I think I may have asked about this before but are there any supplements or other remedies anyone can recommend to fight next day weed hangovers and grogginess? I want to smoke more but have to limit it because I generally feel like shit the day after even if I only smoke a small amount.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 5 October 2023 20:37 (six months ago) link

Kick-ass Tea

Coffee

not even really joking

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 5 October 2023 20:59 (six months ago) link

xp Serious question, why do you want to smoke more if it makes you feel like shit?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 5 October 2023 21:09 (six months ago) link

Xxxpost, Wyld & PC Pure gummies come in more sophisticated flavors, I have some Blackberry Vanilla Fig ones right now, but they still have that funky cannabis aftertaste. Straight grape or cherry flavors mask it more I've found.

BrianB, Thursday, 5 October 2023 21:12 (six months ago) link

still quietly horrified at being high during the 2016 debates -- def do NOT recommend this manner of usage under any circumstances!!

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 October 2023 21:18 (six months ago) link

xxp

I enjoy it at the time, I feel like shit the day after, I would smoke more if the recovery wasn't so rough. I drink a lot of coffee every morning but it doesn't seem to cut through.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 5 October 2023 21:20 (six months ago) link

I was going to say Red Bull

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 5 October 2023 21:23 (six months ago) link

My ADHD meds cure the morning fog but I would not recommend strictly for that purpose lol.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 5 October 2023 21:55 (six months ago) link

I think the only solution is to time is so you're not high at all when you go to sleep, it's the sleep cycle disruption that gives you a weed hangover as I understand it.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 5 October 2023 21:56 (six months ago) link

Yeah, I was going to say that for me the fog is worse the later in the night the consumption happens. Similar to alcohol, really. The closer you are to sober by bedtime, the better you'll feel in the morning. Of course, if you partly like weed to help fall asleep — hi there! — then the timing gets a little tricky. But for me it's rarely that big a deal, I'm sure it varies a lot by person — like everything with weed.

this makes sense, I'll probably keep it to earlier sessions

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 5 October 2023 22:03 (six months ago) link

maybe drink an extra cup of coffee if I'm really struggling

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 5 October 2023 22:04 (six months ago) link

these one-man ambient grindcore albums aren’t just going to materialize themselves

brimstead, Thursday, 5 October 2023 22:21 (six months ago) link

Whenever I take anything to help sleep, it's usually right before bed, so I generally don't get any effects (that I know of) besides a good night's rest. Only challenge comes when the cat wakes me up in the middle of the night and demands a very groggy escort to the food dish. He's lucky I haven't stepped on him, I'm lucky I haven't fallen down the stairs.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 October 2023 22:24 (six months ago) link

This is sadly close to my reality

xp

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 5 October 2023 22:24 (six months ago) link

fun times at prog nite at the local bar yesterday, we had a circle going featuring FIVE different forms of weed - one guy was passing a J, one guy had a bowl, I had my Pax2, the bartender had her vape pen, and then the DJ had some popcorn his wife made, which I ate against my better judgement, though luckily it was not too strong! suffice to say I was reaaaally feeling Gong that night

frogbs, Friday, 6 October 2023 16:14 (six months ago) link

I just discovered a prog night at a local brewery a couple weeks ago, how did I not know these are actually a thing? Walking in to "I Talk To The Wind" with laser lights beaming across the ceiling was such a trip.

Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Friday, 6 October 2023 16:26 (six months ago) link

xp
Pot Head Pixies unite!

nickn, Friday, 6 October 2023 16:38 (six months ago) link

first time I went it was mostly older folks which was cool because some of them have actually seen these bands back in the day and will talk about what it was like getting The Lamb the day it was released. but lately there's actually been a lot of younger folks (well, people my age or a bit younger). outside one of them was asking the DJ "oh was that Van Der Generator before?". was really cool to see. later in the night he'll start playing stuff like Hawkwind and people will actually come onto the dance floor, it's wild

frogbs, Friday, 6 October 2023 17:15 (six months ago) link

I want a prog night in the bay area. wait maybe I don't.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 6 October 2023 18:44 (six months ago) link

after all this talk on here i decided to take a thc cleanse! meaning, no gummies for awhile. its sad but i am already seeing the benefits. getting up earlier. more focus. reading at night instead of just passing out after hours of streaming tv/movies.
i was totally using them as medicine. the gummies. since the pandemic. for nighttime jitters. but i feel okay now. for me. mostly okay. thc definitely dulls my interest in things. which i kinda wanted for awhile. i didn't want to think. but thinking can be underrated.

scott seward, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 18:22 (six months ago) link


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