― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 15:44 (twenty years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 18 March 2004 19:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 18 March 2004 19:37 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 18 March 2004 19:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 18 March 2004 19:55 (twenty years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 18 March 2004 20:02 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 18 March 2004 20:56 (twenty years ago) link
It's basically "Old Ladies? Let us Leech off you.. Look Jewellry... mmmmmmm ... !"
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:02 (twenty years ago) link
"Aaaah !! I'm on the TELLY!! I'm a Salesman!!!! on TELLY !!! HEEllllPPPPP!!!!"
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:03 (twenty years ago) link
QVC never seems to sell anything but women's things these days.
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:06 (twenty years ago) link
― robster (robster), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:12 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Ricardo (RickyT), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:15 (twenty years ago) link
Connected it all up to find that it can't receive any of
BBC1BBC2BBC3ITV1ITV24BBC News 24ITC NewsSky NewsSky Sports NewsCBBCUKTV HistorySky TravelPrice-Drop TV (wtf?)
Now I have to see if I can return it. I have a feeling they will try & stick the blame on me for not checking coverage fully first ...
― Mooro (Mooro), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:15 (twenty years ago) link
So you can get BBC4? That's odd.
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:19 (twenty years ago) link
I'd blame N. for encouraging you against Web advice. Good luck getting a refund, DM.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:20 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:26 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Mooro (Mooro), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:30 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:35 (twenty years ago) link
Sky uses a standard that it created all by itself and uses a bit rate of 4 Mbps Variable nominal.
― Ed (dali), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 22 March 2004 18:00 (twenty years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 22 March 2004 18:03 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 22 March 2004 18:05 (twenty years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 22 March 2004 18:15 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 22 March 2004 18:18 (twenty years ago) link
Here's an explanation of how it works (this is how sky works at least DVB is very similar though):
Channels are arranged in bouquet of 8 channels. The 8 channels are supplied to a statistical multiplexer as 270Mbps SDI lines. The multiplexer dynamically assigns bandwidth to the channels, 32Mbits to assign in the case of sky. Each channel has a bandwidth floor and a nominal badwidth. The multiplexer decides where bandwidth should be allocated to get a picture quality of a certain level and dowcodes the SDI to the appropriate bandwidth. So channels with lots of movement get higher bandwidth and other channels get less. Some channels in a bouquet get priority and bouquets are normally organised with a couple of premium channels and a few lower value channels and maybe a data service.
As far as an objective assessment of quality BBC 1 looks better on freeview than it does on sky but the difference is not stark as the BBC not on the main sky satellite and I think they give it higher nominal bandwidth. The difference between bbc1 and one of the less premium channels is starker on sky. There are lots of other factors; the original footage has a lot to do with picture quality, but modern all digital 50 and 270Mbits footage obviously provides the best end product.
― Ed (dali), Monday, 22 March 2004 19:30 (twenty years ago) link
Blimey! How does this work.? I was thinking that there wasn't too much quick moving action on QVC, but have you seen how fast that steam cleaner blasts away grime??
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 22 March 2004 19:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Monday, 22 March 2004 19:54 (twenty years ago) link
Mooro, I am sorry to hear about your problems. Although it's on an entirley different technological level, I recently bought a set-top (AKA indoor) aerial on special offer and then took it back to exchange it for a daft 'all-in-one' remote control, which was slightly more expensive. I had the extra three pounds all ready to make up the difference, BUT THEY REFUNDED ME AS IF IT HAD BEEN FULL PRICE, so I was quids in there then. I reckon they might refund you full price, Mooro.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 11:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Mooro (Mooro), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 15:18 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 15:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 15:26 (twenty years ago) link
(see upthread)
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 15:31 (twenty years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 15:36 (twenty years ago) link
"Ftn is available on FREEVIEW solely dedicated to general entertainment with a mix of talk, drama, comedy, reality and documentaries. Broadcasting from 6pm to 6am, Ftn features quality original programming from Living TV, Bravo, Trouble and Challenge."
Sounds like the TV equivalent of a tea bag.
― Mooro (Mooro), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 15:50 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 15:55 (twenty years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:11 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:12 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:33 (nineteen years ago) link
Top Up TV Channel 60 11pm - 5am Television X - The Fantasy Channel (Adult Only)
available for a separate monthly fee - terms and conditions apply.
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link
(* Do people still say TV station?)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 29 April 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 30 April 2004 07:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bhumibol Adulyadej (Lucretia My Reflection), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 13:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― vita susicivus (blueski), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 13:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― vita susicivus (blueski), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 13:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 14:06 (seventeen years ago) link
just shoved a hoooge disk in it because 40 hours wasn't enough. it's open enough so that you can do that. i think later models and all the imposters are locked down tightly so you have to go the official upgrade route. or don't bother.
all the major manufacturers do them now, the sony thing won awards in christmas "What Hifi (And Surround Sound System And Half A Dozen Other Categories)" thing. can get them with dvd burners and hard disks and stuff but they tend to be expensive (tivo was £400 when i bought, £200 a year later, £99 for one weekend in some obscure chain about a year after that that was getting rid of theirs)(that said, first nicam video recorder i bought was £399 so...).
i wouldn't've thought volume would affect bitrate. besides, audio bitrate and video bitrate tend to be independant. the compression trick is the reason mute buttons were invented. if they try and grab my attention that way they get muted out. see also: flashing banner ads and adblock
― My Koogy Weighs A Ton (koogs), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link
Audio compression: when audio signal peaks are brought below a certain level to prevent clipping in the audio signal when it is digitised or otherwise transmitted. This is usually accompanied by some gain normalisation to make sure that the sound power level is brought back up to what it was before compression. Heavy compression and normalisation is what makes the adverts sound louder
Compressing the audio: Using a codec, (AC3 and MP2 are the most common for TV) to reduce the bitrate of the audio signal.
Video Legalising, brinigin the video signal to within the parameters of the tranmission system, i.e. making sure that the Luminance, Chrominance and Variage of the signal all fall within specified limits, in a modern all digital workflow this is normally done at the editing stage.
Video Compression: Using a codec (MPEG-2) to reduce the bitrate of the video signal.
Artefacting: blockyness, blotchiness brought on by over compression of the video signal or inexpertly applied compression. In general older poorer video sources compress poorly and show more digital artefacts because they don't have the sharp focus and bright tones footage of modern digital material and because of existing analogue artefacts You can also get artefact with high motion video at low bitrates.
Blocking or Pixilation: If the MPEG-2 transport stream is interrupted then data integrity will break down. The picture is encode by block of pixels, if it can maintain the picture by holding a block for a few frames then the system will try to do this in an effort to keep something on screen whilst this system tries to recapture the stream. this causes squares on the screen to appear to freeze, go black or change to unexpected colours.
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link
"Don't forget to set your *digital* recorder so that you catch every episode."
I half expect them to say "don't forget to set your Humax PVR 500..." tonight.
Sometimes the picture goes away but the subtitles stay. What's all that about?
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 25 January 2007 12:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 25 January 2007 12:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 25 January 2007 12:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 25 January 2007 12:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― vita susicivus (blueski), Thursday, 25 January 2007 12:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― vita susicivus (blueski), Thursday, 25 January 2007 12:46 (seventeen years ago) link
part 2 (universally judged inferior i think) is on film4 on saturday:
http://www.channel4.com/film/reviews/film.jsp?id=132014
in related news (kinda), ftn is showing Takeshi's Castle starting in a week or two. first time on freeview.
― Koogy Bloogies (koogs), Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 26 January 2007 09:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Friday, 26 January 2007 09:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 26 January 2007 11:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Friday, 26 January 2007 11:51 (seventeen years ago) link
Yeah, cos it's supposed to be one better, innit? That's the point.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 26 January 2007 11:57 (seventeen years ago) link
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― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 10 February 2007 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― g00blar (gooblar), Saturday, 10 February 2007 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― PJ Miller, Thursday, 22 February 2007 13:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― Michael Jones, Thursday, 22 February 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ed, Thursday, 22 February 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Michael Jones, Thursday, 22 February 2007 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― Michael Jones, Thursday, 22 February 2007 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― koogs, Friday, 23 February 2007 08:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― PJ Miller, Friday, 23 February 2007 09:30 (seventeen years ago) link