Gang Gang Dance LP

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songs that are more sort of drifty-dreamy on the album really cooked live, which definitely had a lot to do with the prominence of the drums. i mean, i like the vibe of the album. but the energy of the live show was a whole other thing.

tipsy mothra, Sunday, 30 November 2008 03:49 (fifteen years ago) link

this album i feel like is the black dice album i never knew i always wanted except with tinchy stryder bonus track that could never happen but here is also that yknow

negotiable, Sunday, 30 November 2008 03:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I played this recently in the company of my dad who has a pretty narrowly defined classic blues/soul taste continuum and he called it "interesting"
My album of the year anyway

theslothproject, Sunday, 30 November 2008 04:17 (fifteen years ago) link

I wish GGD left the Tinchy song off of the album. When ilm revisits this thread in a few years, you will all agree with me and curse GGD for time-stamping this wonderful album. The rest of the album is great, though. I'm not sure I'd say it's better than God's Money. This album seems a little too current and blog-influenced. Whereas God's Money was like their own planet, this album's more like...oh. They live in New York and want to be cool RIGHT NOW. :/

brightscreamer, Sunday, 30 November 2008 04:58 (fifteen years ago) link

ENDLESS COOL

oscar, Sunday, 30 November 2008 05:06 (fifteen years ago) link

are those brooklyn accents for reals? didn't know if they were kidding during the spoken moments at the show

psychgawsple, Sunday, 30 November 2008 06:18 (fifteen years ago) link

When ilm revisits this thread in a few years, you will all agree with me and curse GGD for time-stamping this wonderful album.

This is missing the point really. As Tim mentioned upthread, the album (and especially that middle section) is awash with UK garage influences, among others. The xylophone hook on Inners Space is pure garage, and there's bits off of dubstep in here as well (although I think dubsteps blends much more easily into the overall warp and weft here). It is totally natural that someone like Tinchy turn up on here.

Considering Tinchy's been knocking round for nearly five years already, he's hardly a flash in the pan in any sense. Unless there's a kind of 'experimental indie rock = timeless, other stuff = fad' snobbery at work here that totally goes against the vibe the band are going for.

Chopper Aristotle (Matt DC), Sunday, 30 November 2008 11:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Also several references to reggaeton.

I actually like the fact that they don't seem much to care about blending together "timeless" and "fashionable" sounds - again, this is what always seemed unique and marvelous about The Beta Band at their best (The Beta Band pulled a similar stunt of releasing a 2-step garage track at the tail end of 1999). Capital I indie (which Gang Gang Dance) usually spends far too much time strenuously avoiding pop music fads.

Although if you want to be really shocked check out the rap track on Jim Moray's album!! That makes GGD look very subtle.

Tim F, Sunday, 30 November 2008 13:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Haha I was going to mention the Beta Band (Hot Shots II really) but thought that would be too corny indie fuxx. What I liked about Hot Shots II was that it sounded really fucking ancient but at the same time like something that couldn't have emerged at any previous moment. Saint Dymphna is similar in that regard.

I'm not trying to over-emphasise the garage influences here, they're an equal ingredient alongside dozens of other things, but to criticise GGD for "time-stamping" a record that is very consciously of it's time seems to be missing the point. See also the synth stabs on House Jam that seemingly come straight out of The Way I Are.

Chopper Aristotle (Matt DC), Sunday, 30 November 2008 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes, this is totally brilliant.

― Tim F, Monday, October 27, 2008 8:47 PM (1 month ago)

poortheatre, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 07:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Fact Magazine calls it

http://www.prefixmag.com/news/fact-magazine-picks-gang-gang-dances-isaint-dymphn/23767/

oscar, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I've never heard of Fact Magazine, but that seems like the exact list a mid-level indie fuxxor from the US would make.

i'm being dismissive of these albums, but - it has your Animal Collective-ish bands (Ponytail, Gang Gang Dance, High Places) american indie-with-a-good-story (No Age, Jay Reatard, Deerhunter) run-off from Burial last year (The Bug, 2563, Flying Lotus) "good times" from New York (Vampire Weekend, Hercules and Love Affair, MGMT)

*disclaimer - i would probably consider myself a mid-level indie fuxxor from the US

Andrew Sandwich, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:18 (fifteen years ago) link

anyone else think Tinchy's rap might've worked better on 'Inners Pace"?
the sloppy drums on 'Princes' are still buggin' me but i like it OK

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:21 (fifteen years ago) link

calling the bug album "run-off from burial last year" is one of the lamest things i've read on ilm, which is saying something

lex pretend, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:29 (fifteen years ago) link

"I've never heard of Fact Magazine, but that seems like the exact list a mid-level indie fuxxor from the US would make."

Fact is basically the UK version of XLR8R.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:36 (fifteen years ago) link

this album is terrible y'all are nuts

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahaha

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:48 (fifteen years ago) link

calling the bug album "run-off from burial last year" is one of the lamest things i've read on ilm, which is saying something

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:29 (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

mightnt be strictly correct, but the sentiment is spot-on.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:03 (fifteen years ago) link

uh re the sandwich post i mean, not lex.

re ggd: i gave them a go in i dunno, 2004 and decided that they were bad ny dj/spookyrupture toss, and then reconcurred with myself from afar upon seeing subsequent riddim n grime waffle. i saw them live this summer as well, and it was all soundscapes maaaan. (okay, though.) i'm gonna put this album on now.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:13 (fifteen years ago) link

"decided that they were bad ny dj/spookyrupture toss"

Nonsense.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:15 (fifteen years ago) link

i absolutely love saint dymphna. what else should i get?

tricky, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:16 (fifteen years ago) link

God's Money

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link

And the Rawwwwar EP or whatever it's called.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link

And then you can probably stop.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link

i saw you guys talking about this in the SF thread and was intrigued. then i bought the album on a whim and now i am bummed i missed that show.

tricky, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:20 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks for the recommendations alex.

tricky, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:20 (fifteen years ago) link

not a single bad track on SD that's for sure. Rawwwwar is my pretty much what it did to my head. it almost dares you to like it.

tricky, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Brilliant record, but I've heard they can be awful live. Should I try to see if this is true or not?

Mister Craig, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:26 (fifteen years ago) link

nonsense in 2004? i don't know, it mightve been, i didnt have a lot to go on. i took into account the context, and the reception, and the little label the record store man wrote.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I think it depends on the price haha. The previous SF show sounds like it was crappy, but I thought they were pretty good this tour.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:29 (fifteen years ago) link

the previous SF Show was horrendous... it was at the Independent and they had a major equipment malfunction after 10 minutes followed by a huge temper tantrum. Did not get a refund either! fukkerz.

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:35 (fifteen years ago) link

fukkerz artistes

negotiable, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:37 (fifteen years ago) link

i have seen this band 3-4 times, none of these was disappointing in the least. did they play the independent twice? i remember seeing them there a few years back and i dug it

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:42 (fifteen years ago) link

oh shit, they've played here a bunch. this was their first SF show... it was like fall 2005. with tussle.

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Wednesday, October 5th, 2005 according to SFBG 8-days calendar archive.

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:47 (fifteen years ago) link

(scroll down past ads following OP)

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:48 (fifteen years ago) link

lololol

unfortunately i feel the need to respond to this.
we(GGD) were flown to SF to play that one show, therefore we were gauranteed a backline and a soundcheck(not unreasonable considering that without a backline our instruments dont make any sound). we arrived at the venue four hours early on the day of the show just to take extra precautions........soundchecks often "magically" disappear from certain venues list of priorities. anyway.....we arrived to find the promised and necessary backline nowhere to be found.....waited two of our four precious hours for borrowed amps to arrive from the very gracious openers. we set up our equipment with a more than adequate amount of time left to soundcheck, but for some unknown reason the "soundperson" at the independent spent roughly 1hour and 45minutes of those two remaining hours running around on the phone, talking to me about his collection of music equipment, asking me if i listened to captain beefheart, and generally being an absolutely passive aggressive condescending prick. so we were left with fifteen minutes to check and during those fifteen minutes encountered more problems than we've ever had on a stage. the DI's that the prickman gave me were all fucked and cutting out, he wouldnt listen to a single thing we suggested, and he sat at the soundboard talking on the phone until finally he approached the stage and told us we had to "get things moving" and that he had to start soundchecking the other bands due to a "lack of time". i told him straight up that we werent going to be able to play if he didnt help us figure something out....that it actually technically was not going to work....and he pointed to his watch and began "helping" us move our useless gear off stage. come showtime.....we made a decision to just play in hopes that something would miraculously occur and the crappy amps and DI's would decide to work. what else could we do? when you have the majority of the staff at a venue yelling at you to get on stage, yelling at you to play when your onstage, yelling at you because your scowling at the fact that the sound is fucked(even though you had told them that before),etc,etc,etc....and your onstage in front of a roomful people whom you so very much want to play to and share your music with, and that very same audience begins yelling "play already!"....and no matter what you try you cannot get anything to work......well, emotions tend to run a little high and sometimes we cant all be so cool as to laugh it off and go with the flow and pretend that its a very comfortable and welcoming and patient situation and just try, as one of you put it, to" stick it out and figure out what the problem is". we stuck it out for four hours earlier in the day and we were completely disrespected by the alltime worst soundperson we've ever dealt with.
so.....while i am not trying to write this as a 'fuck you very much for your comments' type thing....i do wish you would be a little more understanding. had you been through the frustrations of our day you may very well have given up at that point as well. i apologise for the fact that so many people came to see us.....and didnt really see us at all, but it really was out of our hands by that time.
and if you are still unforgiving, then yes, fuck you very much.
------------------"keys boy" uffing it all---------BDG/GGD

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 01:48 (fifteen years ago) link

they could still give a refund! lammmmmme

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 02:02 (fifteen years ago) link

refund probably the venue's decision too, no?

I've seen em once when it was just ok and once when it was super good (both in the past 2 months)

dmr, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 03:30 (fifteen years ago) link

"i took into account the context, and the reception, and the little label the record store man wrote."

The little label had refs to spooky/rupture on it? Sounds far-fetched.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 03:36 (fifteen years ago) link

no your honour, if i recall correctly the label vaguely referred to new york, world music mixology, tapes, dub, and so on, which to my then mind appeared more theoretical in intention than the generic organic noize band blurb that was fashionable at the time. future "riddim dvd" type releases only seemed to bear this inference out.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 04:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Bummer about the sound guy but maybe an hour long noise set on broken gear would have been a better "fuck you very much" than just walking away?

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 10:34 (fifteen years ago) link

calling the bug album "run-off from burial last year" is one of the lamest things i've read on ilm, which is saying something

Well, if the Sandwich dude means 'this year's broadsheet-friendly token dubstep-affiliated album' then he's right. I think he's just being lame though.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 10:40 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

am i the only one who likes this revival of the shittest thing i got off of slsk?

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 26 December 2008 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

GGD reminds me a lot of "Waking the Witch." Also, whoever described the sound as "stacking" upthread is otm.

looking for a real life bromance (vermonter), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 06:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll be fucked if "House Jam" isn't the best song I heard all of last year.

ilxor, Thursday, 29 January 2009 04:24 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...
two months pass...

++friday night at 8 o'clock++

123 East 12th Street

HEX MESSAGE + MIKE FELLOWS + BRIAN DEGRAW

playing live music

++T&S++

taxterandspengemann.com

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link

who's going to see that at Dingwalls on June 1? Long overdue, especially after they had to cancel earlier in the year after the fire in Holland

Tannenbaum Schmidt, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link


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