John Mayer singles poll

I don't remember. I think he accused him of wanting it both ways. I know I was thirty and ran out for a water.

Yeah Randy Newman w/o the irony sounds about right.

is why georgia the one where he goes OOHHHHH BUT YOU KNEW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MILES AND COLTRANE

woops, no, that's the album track "comfortable"

"Why Georgia" was big on adult contempo station i'd have to listen to when working breakfast shifts at a shitty sandwich shop circa 2003. just thinking about the song reminds me of making egg sandwiches, but i really do think it's got a pretty great melody.

afaik "waiting on the world to change" is the last of these i've heard

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dreaming with a broken heart

Heartbreak Warfare

i heard this song on the radio today & it totally rules -- would like to change my vote

it's pretty decent, though I've always been kind of lukewarm on that one, mostly because it clearly signified him moving back away from his blues-infused pop on Continuum and headed to something that wasn't even as engaging as what he did before.

in fact the whole album is pretty boring sans a few songs. even the singles didn't seem to be up to their usual standard.

red wine and ambien
you're talking shit again

I know I was thirty and ran out for a water.

― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:30 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark

an unsung typo

J0rdan S., your taste in rock/pop deserves its own forum separate from ILM

i don't even know what that means -- not to mention that my tastes in rock & pop are not really abnormal by ilm standards (except for maybe extreme blink 182 stannery)

heard "No Such Thing" in the mall yesterday, that is a good-ass song

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glad "no such thing" won because if not that would've been stupid

fathers be good to your markers, markers will love like you do

i actually like "bigger than my body" a lot

this guy can really shred!

thought this revive was gonna be the album out next week with Frank Ocean and Katy Perry features and a Taylor Swift diss

wow that is a hideous sentence

he moved to some ranch in montana and listened to the dead 24/7.

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makes sense, he's kind of the Ben Affleck of music

new album is boring even by his standards

i wish i was paying attention to apple when he was doing shit w/ jobs during keynotes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MRDDJjTwTw

wow, kanye IS the new steve jobs, he knows john mayer too

http://cdn.cultofmac.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/761181fda92ac8f1225f7a1a29509c3d753cce2c.jpg

thread need more pictures of the modern day john mayer that gets to see katy perry naked

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Craftsman, feh. I wouldn't sit in his chairs -- and he'd use that one as a sex metaphor.

Oh please.

Sob Rock. July 16. pic.twitter.com/Hhn2sO9KRY

— John Mayer (@JohnMayer) June 1, 2021

You want to play with yourself in a hotel room and cry, go right ahead.

is there an album cover he's directly aping or is it just a general 80s AOR look?

Are we sure it's not "SOB rock"?

gottem

i think im gonna have to like this album

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where is brad’s hot take that his consensus fourth or fifth best album is actually the best?

uh i try to have as few opinions on john mayer as possible but i feel like there's no way he's made a record better than continuum and iirc that's the fan favorite

My sister picked out some Taylor Swift songs for me to listen to and I told her I thought “Dear John” was very good, and she told me it’s about John Mayer, who is not Josh Groban.

i enjoyed a number of songs from heavier things (not including "daughters")

i think i've figured out which album cover this reminds me of

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41cN2xnb0oL.jpg

*grits teeth* didn't see the damn amazon logo

DON: I think it was my wife who alerted me to John Mayer's work years ago, back when "No Such Thing" was all over the radio and television. I've kept listening through the years, quietly admiring his career arc proving he's more than just a smart guy with a guitar--a struggle I'm all too familiar with.

GLENN: We truly were the Vasco de Gama and Cabeza de Vaca to his Kit Carson in exploring bodies as Wonderlands.

DON: Well, yeah.

It's got the tropes down:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Ne5dVDfLM

(Don Was producing! Toto/Thriller guy on keebs!)

I…. don’t hate this?

it's pretty good. nice to see maren

Xpost lol was gonna say synths sound like "Africa".

Is this his Tunnel of Love?

Are we supposed to be believe that Mayer has a hard time getting laid? His penis's well documented white supremacy views aside

I think the angst being expressed in these songs is that he gets laid all the time but not by The Right Girl.

"Wild Blue" stands out on the album because the lyrics are simple and the guitar noodling goes on a long time, and it's just good chill beach-and-bistro music.

I wish the album were as playful and funny as its ad campaign, but I do think he's thoroughly self-aware as a pop songwriter and not aiming for confession any more than Diane Warren is.

I think a lot about the post in the Ryan Adams thread a couple years ago that suggested the music industry invested in Adams to be what Mayer ended up becoming: a pop songwriter, connected to the lineage of those before him in fun ways (touring as part of The Dead), connected to pop culture beyond music (doing shows with Chappelle), and so on.

honestly didn’t know he wrote his own songs, Dianne Warren analogy makes sense

thats why all the guitar hero dad nerds love him - he writes his own stuff and has guitar chops and brings in a bunch of great studio cats to work with him

I've yet to hear any guitar work from him that seems the least bit compelling to me, but he definitely seems to get a lot of kudos in that world

think he says on record he just dumbs it down and keeps it simple

Continuum has most of it but honestly the most he shredded was on Chappelle's Show lmao

lots of 'tasteful' playing yeah

Yeah his studio stuff isn't really where to hear it. But I'm also not going to waste any energy trying to convince anyone on ilx that his playing with Dead & Co is occasionally worth hearing.

this is his best work IMO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynq7pAEwp6Y

Given the period detail, will be funny if this is his New Jersey!

20 years deep in a steady career, it seems unlikely he'll ever have a New Jersey—unless his debut album counts. I imagine he shed some "Your Body..."-only fans/album buyers by the time of his next one.

I looked up his stats for the NJ thread, and, well, yeah he doesn't really qualify. Big debut, followed by several solid sellers albeit with ultimately diminishing #s, ala Pearl Jam.

It's not the same, but I do recall tons of copies of his Trio live album hitting used bins shortly after it came out.

Something I made and posted elsewhere on ILM

https://frinkiac.com/video/S04E05/ZcxmdX47EyOkm0rfXgzDlPTKch4=.gif

I've yet to hear any guitar work from him that seems the least bit compelling to me, but he definitely seems to get a lot of kudos in that world

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, July 16, 2021 3:08 PM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

think he says on record he just dumbs it down and keeps it simple

― pure rim rest (Spottie), Friday, July 16, 2021 3:16 PM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

I've said before I'd like to hear him stretch out on something, maybe take some risks, make mistakes. Even in the Dead & Co footage I've seen he plays it safer than I'd like, part of why I more enjoy Billy Strings with Billy and the Kids even though you could make a case for John Mayer as the "better" guitarist. Like Mayer is obviously a guitar wiz -- if you've ever seen his guitar tik toks where he breaks stuff down, he is undeniably brilliant. But there's something about him that just can't bear to allow any cracks in the perfect facade. Even this new record, the concept, the way it's marketed, the sound, really "nails" the aesthetic. Does it do anything else?

Fwiw, part of the thing with Dead & Co, especially in the early tours, is that Bob Weir is the de facto leader and he can be weirdly risk averse for a guy who built is legacy with a band like that. There were several times I'd get really interested in what Mayer was playing during a jam, only to have Bobby ripcord and overpower him with the song's main riff to bring it back in. It's gotten a lot better in recent tours though.

"his legacy"

MORE LIKE SAAB ROCK AMIRITE

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continuum: really good lowkey neo-soul record. so good that i look at most of what he's released since and think wtf happened to this guy

otm. Continuum is his classic, and then he abandoned that and went back to mostly middling stuff

actually remember being surprised when I first heard "Vultures", as I hadn't heard anything of his after "Your Body is a Wonderland", and was like "this is THAT guy?"

"vultures" sounds like a freaking maxwell song, it is outrageously wonderful

Surprised “vultures” was not released as a single, it’s one of his best songs and sounds to me very radio friendly.

I did have to endure an xgau panel paper where he went all-in on "Waiting for the World to Change."

But yes, agree that Continuum is his definitive album.

Great production, great musicianship and his songwriting improves a lot from previous efforts. It’s the one that best balances his pop, rock, blues, soul influences into a John Mayer cohesive style. This album and the live performances around the era showed and undeniable skill and knowledge, shame he wasn’t up to continue on this path.

i dont trust myself sounds like a dangelo song

that song was weird for me because I got into this album because the girl I was dating at the time was obsessed and both of us identified HEAVILY with "I Don't Trust Myself" lyrically at the time, but for different reasons.

was a beautiful bonding experience listening to the songs together.

best Mayer song is Back to You imo.