Grateful Dead live, Dick's Picks etc - S&D

The sound is incredible. Thanks for reminding us of this one.
My birthday is 8/27!

It's the wrong time of the year for that set for me, but yeah, it's the greatest.

Can someone give me a recommendation as to the Dick's Pick (or easily available bootleg) with best Help>Slipknot>Franklin's Tower?

Thanks.

And that Renaissance Faire grounds set is great.

RE: best Help>Slipknot>Franklin's Tower?

5/9/77 buffalo. Not sure if it ever became a Dick's Pick, but it wins the prize and disagreeers are crazy!

My second favorite is 6/3/76 in Portland OR. Not a big fan of that year, but there's a matrix version of the show on archive.org that is one of the best sounding Dead recordings I've ever heard. It's a long, slow, spacey version Slipknot in particular (realize those adjectives could bs applied to most of the lads' music!). Enjoy.

thanks for the recommendation. love hearing these shows, but whenever i go to the archive, i'm overwhelmed. i knew this deadhead girl with thousands of tapes, and i asked her which one is the absolute best, and she just said: "wow, man ... wow."

ha. she was completely otm btw

whle we're here, anyone have any garcia band bootleg recommendations?

5/9/77 buffalo. Not sure if it ever became a Dick's Pick, but it wins the prize and disagreeers are crazy!

^wow, never heard it, but if true, they had a great May in upstate New York that year.

Thanks tobo!

Never really understood why 5/8/77 is such a big deal. I think it was just widely available in the tape era and got a rep as best-ever. Like I said, I'm not a huge fan of this era but the band was as tight as ever and lots of good-sounding recordings exist.

this is weird. I just put on Dick's Picks no.16 -- the first Dead I've listened to in a long time, and now this thread. I normally listen to GD in the summer, but I'm in the mood right now.

^LOOOVE vol 16.

haha http://www.rollingstone.com/music/blogs/alternate-take/the-grateful-dead-unveil-giant-box-set-europe-72-20110119
60 CDs!

Ridiculous. Awesome.

"There were so many reasons to do this," says producer David Lemieux. "There isn't a bad night. There isn't even a bad set. Every song was played so well."

Straining credulity here...

Yeah...this tour was def. a peak though.

ha yeah was lolling about the lemieux quote. i mean, i'm sure a lot of it is good, but saying the Dead played *every* song well is not really describing the Grateful Dead I know and love.

We weren't sure how what we did would travel. It is a uniquely American experience. But there are some great memories: riding the ferry from Newcastle to Copenhagen; the double rainbow we saw while riding in the bus through Switzerland.

weir confusing youtube vids he's watched w/ actual memories again

60 cds! But really, that's the way to do it, because it's a selling point this way; o/w we all dl'd the soundboard mp3s off the archive back before the band withdrew them---the ~~music~~ never stopped therefore, the packaging remains a horizon.

here's a trick:

save the the streaming .m3u playlist to your desktop
open it in a text editor
turn the mp3 urls into links
save file as dead.html
open dead.html in web browser
right-click on the mp3 links, save mp3s to hard drive

friend of the devil is a friend of mine

Q: Is Dark Star Orchestra as good as they were 8-10 years ago?

ehh, I'm not sure if I want to go. John Kadlecik has joined Further. He did a great Jerry Garcia voice. And another founding member, keyboardist Scott Larned, had a heart attack in 2005.

This isn't making me want to shell out $25

Now they have Jeff Mattson from The Donna Jean Godchaux Band
http://www.archive.org/details/dso2010-05-29.flac16

According to the current DSO keyboardist Rob Barraco:
"The one thing that Jeff has above everybody else is that he really understands the earlier bend on the Dead. The late '60s, early '70s. He does it so well and that's something that we really haven't concentrated on in this band until now. Jeff brings just a little more grease, that psychedelic greasy element that was missing in John's playing. Not to demean John's playing, because he's brilliant. That's just what Jeff brings that is different."

I haven't formed a good enough opinion on Jeff Mattson's voice but that link to him playing with DSO up above really highlights his guitar playing (from what I heard of it so far). I think I want to go again.

When I saw DSO for the first time they did this show (I'll link the Dead version):
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1984-06-12.nakcm304-mikeg-suraci.suraci.78162.flac16

People who want to hear The Dead freak out should listen to this show. I particularly remember having no clue that the Dead had music like this. Lots of psychedelic stuff on speed

I went to the site to read about this Europe '72 box, and it says that all 7,200 copies were sold at $450 each in four days. 7,200 x 450 = $3,240,000. I find that just astounding.

lol that is nuts

That is 432,000 units

well Dark Star Orchestra was really impressive at Atlanta tonight. Interesting that this show had a crazy amount of hits compared to all the streaming shows I've seen at archive.org. Like 'friend of the devil' into 'new minglewood' and 'truckin' into 'sugar magnolia' into 'bertha'(I believe). They did stuff like 'alabama getaway' and 'johnny b. goode'; and 'friend of the devil' and 'passenger'; 'wharf rat' and 'morning dew' (I believe). 'ripple' was right near the beginning of the night along with the countryish songs.

we left when the encore started and they started doing 'casey jones'. lol, the guy in the bathroom was talking out loud and he said the two songs he really hates is 'casey' and either 'drums' or 'space'. and yeah they did those ones as well. some of my favorite songs of the night were the ones I didn't recognize after 'space' and 'drums' because they obviously went into heavy psych/"jam band" territory at that point - although none of the freak out sort of psych like in the "dead version" link I put upthread.

huh, i'm always kind of tempted to go see these guys (they play in colorado constantly it seems). kind of afraid of the "scene" but maybe i should just suck it up and go. it's probably be fun.

I thought Dark Star recreated specific shows?

Was just going to mention the 60cd box but obviously been beaten to it by some way. Apparently sold out in 4 days & the band's store is selling the music without the extras for the same price. Shame you miss the box.

Not seen if there's been talk of Veneta and Sunshine Daydream the movie. But that set has to be one of their peaks 28/7/72 I think

& May '70 seemed to largely be a peak too as did august '68.

I'm mainly into them up to the '74 retirement but there are peaks after that.

My guess is that Sunshine Daydream will be the centerpiece of a future Dead box -- it is great!

here's a trick:

save the the streaming .m3u playlist to your desktop
open it in a text editor
turn the mp3 urls into links
save file as dead.html
open dead.html in web browser
right-click on the mp3 links, save mp3s to hard drive

friend of the devil is a friend of mine

― Mangrove Earthshoe (herb albert), Wednesday, January 19, 2011 7:15 PM

ha awesome

I found the live dead recording corresponding to the DSO show I saw last night
1980-10-27 - Radio City Music Hall, NY. 3 set show

you should go this year, tylerw. there's 4 shows around colorado in april. i've been to boulder and i don't think you should be afraid of that "scene". maybe you know more about that scene though... i wouldn't mind hearing your opinions about it

I never saw the Dead (no interest at the time) and I've only seen DSO once, but I thought they did an excellent job of recreating the sound of the '70s Dead. "The scene" I saw was really just a bunch of tie-dyed 20-somethings in Phish shirts, no cause for fear imo.

I will give the next local Dark Star Orchestra show a chance, I suppose.
Unless it's on like a Monday night or something.

so does DSO announce what Dead show they're playing beforehand or is it a surprise?

afaik it's always a surprise. A few old heads near where I was standing at the back of the bar kept trying to "guess the date/venue" throughout the show.

RIP Owsley "Bear" Stanley -- the guy responsible for most of the Dead's live recordings. And umm other stuff too.

Oh damn. RIP. :(

Designed my favorite lightning bolt.

Shit, I hadn't realized that was why my buddy shared this on FB. interesting story, one of a kind dude.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=%2Fc%2Fa%2F2007%2F07%2F12%2FMNGK0QV7HS1.DTL

yeah, quite a life, even aside from any grateful dead stuff.
bear's choice is still one of my fave Dead experiences

supposedly stanley had a ton of non-dead live recordings from the late 60s in his archives that he was really protective of, and mainly kept unreleased -- wonder if any of that will start to surface? selfish, i know, but can't help wondering.

A lot of my favorite Archival Dead releases are from his tapes
http://www.thebear.org/albums.html
His site is refreshingly stark.

This from that page: "I have a lot of tapes stored in the Dead's tape vault. Virtually every band that played on the same bill with the Grateful Dead during my years as soundman, and who did not bring their own soundman, was recorded. I would be very interested in working with any of the bands concerned to see if the tapes represent anything worth releasing. I will post the list once it is OCR'ed (a big job!)."

would love to see that list, jesus christ.
the flying burrito bros. live thing from a few years back was one of his tapes.
some people have suggested he has some unheard Velvet Underground stuff too.

Maybe you could peruse the archive at UC Santa Cruz?