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i think that's how i first heard it too. it seriously is a major, major improvement. used to sound kinda rinky dink, but now it's big and layered.

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

It's crazy how much better that remaster sounds, really.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link

right? the thing just sparkles now, whereas it was pretty flat sounding (even on the vinyl i have). i guess there were a bunch of weirdnesses with the mix when it originally came out.

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I think having the remaster is a huge reason why the song was such a revelation for me this morning.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

hmm searching for a d/l of the remaster is kinda hard...

from the lowly milligeir to the mighty gigahongro (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link

oh never mind, found it

from the lowly milligeir to the mighty gigahongro (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link

the claps on cinnamon girls are blowing me away right now, like i never heard the song before

in my world of Hmong ppl (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, after a billion live versions, it's easy to forget how rad that song is. where did it come from? cant really think of another song from the 60s it sounds like.

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

wow this really does sound quite different than I remember. the fuzz guitar tone in particular seems like it must have been difficult to capture correctly

from the lowly milligeir to the mighty gigahongro (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

just to jump on the s/t remaster train, it's maybe the best remaster I can think of ("best" as in greatest improvement in sound quality, hearing it in a new way, etc)

hot lava hair (Z S), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

just chiming in here, all the remasters sound great but the first album is like a completely new + awesome album

the fuzz attack on stuff like "I've been waiting for you" and "the loner" is flattening

if nothing else this thread will result in some great display names (Edward III), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

& the wide open orchestration on "old laughing lady" could be off of Bryter Later

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

the s/t seems like a template for Gene Clark's "No Other" to me now

from the lowly milligeir to the mighty gigahongro (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, true, and it's interesting how neil could've been more of a cult-type artist along the lines of Gene Clark. Kind of similar trajectories in their early days -- Neil just had some hits (and CSNY of course) that turned him into a superstar.

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

rumored to be playing the bell house in brooklyn tonight w/peggy & bert jansch.

Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 16 December 2010 01:56 (thirteen years ago) link

never thought much of the s/t, but the raves itt (esp the gene clark comparison) have convinced me to buy the remaster soon. only 8.99 on amazon!

swvl, Thursday, 16 December 2010 02:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Let me say a word for "The Emperor of Wyoming," one of my three favorite rarely-talked-about Neil songs (other two: "Country Girl" and "Ocean Girl"). On the downside, "The Last Trip to Tulsa" is interminable, and almost as silly as the Doors at their silliest.

clemenza, Thursday, 16 December 2010 02:21 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah "last trip" is a misstep for sure. though the version with (i think) the santa monica flyers from the 70s is awesome. a lot shorter too.

tylerw, Thursday, 16 December 2010 02:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Making this pretty funny.

clemenza, Thursday, 16 December 2010 02:43 (thirteen years ago) link

"I've been waiting for you" is one my favorite Neil back catalog surprises.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 16 December 2010 02:45 (thirteen years ago) link

if anything "last trip to tulsa" is a dylan rip

it's slight but he gets some good lines in

if nothing else this thread will result in some great display names (Edward III), Thursday, 16 December 2010 02:54 (thirteen years ago) link

It is more Dylan than Doors, you're right.

clemenza, Thursday, 16 December 2010 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link

haaa, that promo is hilarious

tylerw, Thursday, 16 December 2010 04:34 (thirteen years ago) link

The best part is the implication that Neil somehow got separated from his guitar during his Buffalo Springfield days...Had he switched over to cello or something during that time?

clemenza, Thursday, 16 December 2010 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link

add another missing album to the pile -- just read this, never heard of it before:
I woke up in the middle of the night because I’ve been listening to this – it’s a bit of a tangent here, but I’ve been listening to this album called Treasure, which I have in the can that was done in 1985. I’ve been listening to it because I plan on releasing it someday, and it’s a great record. But all of the people – the key people – are all gone. I have this history of these people that are playing the greatest music of our lives, playing unbelievably great, and now they’re gone, and I didn’t continue playing with them. At some point I had to say, “I’ll see you guys later. I gotta go do this. I’m gonna go play with Crazy Horse now. I’m gonna do this or I’m gonna do that.” In that way I am ruthless, but I’m ruthless for the music. What is ruth? I don’t know what ruth is. If I don’t have any of it, you know, I’m okay.”

tylerw, Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

He's the one artist that *has* to have a "A NEW ALBUM FROM" sticker on his, um, new albums.

Mark G, Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

"Cinnamon Girl" - double drop D, no? Got to be relatively unusual, though I think he used the same tuning for "Ohio." Perhaps accounts for their striking-ness.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

there's a clip from the archives where neil shows a fan how to play it, and yeah, i think it's double drop d.

tylerw, Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

he did play with peggi last night in brooklyn. looking pretty old

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/img/music/pegiyoungneilyoung/bellhouse/40.jpg

mizzell, Thursday, 16 December 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

according to the cinnamon girl wiki page:
The song was written in Double Drop D tuning (DADGBD). This tuning is used in several of his most famous songs, such as "Cortez the Killer", "Fuckin' Up", "The Loner", "Ohio", "Inca Queen", "The Old Laughing Lady", "Ride My Llama", "When You Dance I Can Really Love."

mizzell, Thursday, 16 December 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

it is a cool tuning!

tylerw, Thursday, 16 December 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Pity John Entwistle didn't use it on his version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-avGFz3uzlE

Son of Sisyphus of Reaganing (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 16 December 2010 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Somewhere on Archives, there's an old clip of Neil explaining to some guy in a park how to play "Cinnamon Girl."

This is not that clip, but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6sg5OMZ7uM

clemenza, Thursday, 16 December 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

just wanted to chime in some more about the s/t remaster, been listening to it a bunch lately:

- Last Trip to Tulsa is possibly the worst song in his entire catalog. aimless, formless, terrible lyrics, terrible delivery. practically everything about it is wrong
- the only other track that irks me is Here We Are in the Years, just for the clumsy lyrical sentiment

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link

there's a great (much shorter & electric) version of "last trip" that was the b-side to the time fades away single. and yeah "here we are in the years" is definitely not the best set of lyrics, but it is pretty!

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.bigozine1a.com/TRKSD/NYrarities/NYrarities13.mp3 here ya go

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

haha omg that is SO MUCH BETTER. sloppy groove and a sneer is def the way that song should be

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

loving the unhinged-ness of this - feels of a piece with Yonder Stands the Sinner

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, the song is pretty funny/nasty in that version

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...
two months pass...

I listened to A Treasure on the way in this morning and I have to say, I think this is finally going to provide a way for me to get into the 80s country era of Neil's career. That's always been a blind spot for me, both because 80s Neil was the last in general I came around to and also because country can be the hardest genre for me to really invest time in. I'd long heard and read about the legendary International Harvesters tours, but the few bootlegs I heard were of questionable enough quality that I couldn't fully commit. This sounds great and, while it may not represent any kind of peak for Neil, I'm really thankful to have it in my collection.

A nice little sign of the times, the crowd reaction to the "there's already too many Toyotas on the road" line in "Motor City".

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:10 (twelve years ago) link

80s Neil was the last in general I came around to

Trans!!!! It's all about that album

geeta, Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

Trans is amazing

lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

Trans was the first (and only) 80s Neil I had for the longest time. Its the less regarded 80s album I took forever to get into.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

news from the toronto film festival:
Neil has just completed his first book, a 105,000-word epic tentatively titled Cars I Have Known.

tylerw, Thursday, 15 September 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

"Underrated Cars I Have Owned"

Status Update...in my Seether? (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 15 September 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

gonna assume the book is about neil's experiences with Ric Ocasek, Benjamin Orr, Elliot Easton and David Robinson?

tylerw, Thursday, 15 September 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

It's all about his quest to copy their drum sound in the 80s.

Status Update...in my Seether? (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 15 September 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

May you live in inneresting times--happy 66th.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBOQfr2Lrno

clemenza, Saturday, 12 November 2011 14:32 (twelve years ago) link

happy b-day!
clemenza, you might be innnerested in this. it kind of works!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Z3Ikwj1xk

tylerw, Saturday, 12 November 2011 15:04 (twelve years ago) link


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