"Aloof-Detached-Distant-Bjork"
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 13 December 2010 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link
poor episode, feel let down by this show, which has got self-indulgent (and emo) very fast
only this ep wasn't fast, it was at half-speed
― ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 00:12 (thirteen years ago) link
For a show that is "emo" there is a lack of lovey dovey stuff going on compared to Friends or whatever and nothing apallingly emo going on so I disagree with the "emo" label
― ZOUNDS? (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link
idk i think the show has always had a sappiness/emo element to it, i seem to remember complaining on this very thread about some of the "moral of the story is" endings of S1 episodes. i'm used to it at this point, it doesn't detract from the other 9/10ths of the show that's mostly dark humor.
― literally the worst thing that ever happened on this planet (reddening), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 02:58 (thirteen years ago) link
The emo label is only used to describe bad things. I prefer Mordy's robotic usage of the word "affecting" in this case
― ZOUNDS? (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 23:50 (thirteen years ago) link
robotic!?
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 December 2010 01:55 (thirteen years ago) link
(interrobang!?)
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 December 2010 01:56 (thirteen years ago) link
idk i think the show has always had a sappiness/emo element to it, i seem to remember complaining on this very thread about some of the "moral of the story is" endings of S1 episodes.
For serious! What show were you guys watching for the last season and a half?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 16 December 2010 02:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Wait, Mordy's a robot?
― Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Thursday, 16 December 2010 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link
That's interesting about what you said about me being a robot. Tell me more?
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 December 2010 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Because Mordy if you are a robot then this adds a whole new level to WDYLL. That front panel is coming OFF. :)
― Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Thursday, 16 December 2010 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Aw man. I just IM'd Smarterchild for the first time in like six-seven years and apparently he's been retired!
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 December 2010 03:09 (thirteen years ago) link
they replaced him with Smordychild
― some dude, Thursday, 16 December 2010 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Just finished this. The Lost joke was awesome, since it was:
1) funny
2) true to life (we all know what happened and can agree to the sentiment)
3) true to the character (Abed would think in these terms)
The 3rd bit is the most crucial, I think, b/c perhaps one of the greatest strengths about the show is that all the gags and jokes and pop-culture refs function as a way to reveal truth about the character. Even more than the Simpsons or South Park or (of course) Family Guy ever could do, all the pop culture refs serve as a means to both be funny but more importantly backstop the character. Having the former is meaningless without the latter, which I think Dan Harmon has mentioned at some point.
also: enjoyed the fact that claymation Pierce is still in his wheelchair
― Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Thursday, 16 December 2010 04:12 (thirteen years ago) link
That's interesting about what you said about me being a robot. Tell me more?― Mordy, Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:46 AM (2 hours ago)
It goes back to this post by you:
watching this again and it's actually better the second time. more affecting actually― Mordy, Saturday, December 11, 2010 12:07 AM (5 days ago) (link to upthread)
(I prodded you about your word choice in that link - "CL: how can you tell it's affecting" - "Mordy: it affects me")
Anyways, the reason I found your word choice so funny and robotic is because a.) I never heard anyone call a TV show affecting beforeb.) Actually, I never hear people calling anything affecting (if not people then...)c.) You used an incomplete sentence. Reminiscent of "Mission Accomplished. Robot use turn signal. Destroy"d.) That incomplete sentence ended with a period. When someone ends short text messages with a period I often picture that person with a dead serious expression on their face (or disgruntled - depending on the context - whatever.)e.) "affecting" and "it [a]ffects me" has to be the best way to avoid telling people how you feel about somethingf.) Just now when I typed "affecting" into google to check the definition the first definition that popped up is:
affecting - present participle of af·fect (Verb)1. Pretend to have or feel (something): "as usual I affected a supreme unconcern".2...
― Help! I'm a bug (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 16 December 2010 05:30 (thirteen years ago) link
oops, I'm missing the period at the end of Mordy's second quote which directly relates to point d.)
― Help! I'm a bug (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 16 December 2010 05:33 (thirteen years ago) link
MISTRIAL!
― Kerm, Thursday, 16 December 2010 05:56 (thirteen years ago) link
merriam-webster says the definition of affecting is "evoking a strong emotional response," which is how i took mordy to mean it. it doesn't seem robotic to me, just another way of saying "it moved me."
― illiterate and hateful, as expected (reddening), Thursday, 16 December 2010 06:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, this. I mean, geez...look up movie reviews for any weepy drama from the past 20 years and you'll find "affecting" bandied about pretty frequently.
― Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Thursday, 16 December 2010 06:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Bummed that Mordy's not a robot.
― Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Thursday, 16 December 2010 06:12 (thirteen years ago) link
this show's always been as corny as modern fam
― hey DARSH (cozen), Thursday, 16 December 2010 08:10 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah but... this ep sucked. that's all there is really. it's kind of an 'interesting experiment', but would i want a live action 'family guy'? that's a no (except for mila kunis amirite guys). the delivery of lines was poor, and the animated figures were --hey, wordplay coming up -- less *animated* than their irl equivalents.
― ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Thursday, 16 December 2010 09:22 (thirteen years ago) link
see i don't disagree with either of those criticisms, but i still really liked the episode. i could see maybe being let down after anticipating a more thorough rendering of the show -- the characters looking more precise, accommodating a faster pace of dialogue, etc. -- but this episode still had good joeks and character-building moments that felt real (humanizing pierce a little more, the annie/troy/abed friendship-via-capers that we saw in the lawyer episode). and part of it was just the "oh man they're having a chase scene on top of a train, this looks so awesome" factor.
"somewhere, tim burton just got a boner."
― illiterate and hateful, as expected (reddening), Thursday, 16 December 2010 09:38 (thirteen years ago) link
'it affects me' is a complete sentence!
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 December 2010 12:15 (thirteen years ago) link
d.) That incomplete sentence ended with a period. When someone ends short text messages with a period I often picture that person with a dead serious expression on their face (or disgruntled - depending on the context - whatever.)
lol we're really learning about the bizarre inner workings of lorax's mind more than mordy's or anyone else's
― some dude, Thursday, 16 December 2010 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link
can we have a seperate community thread for all the drips who hate fun and love to harsh mellows and are desperate to be the first off the bus, pls?
― Babylon and zing (stevie), Thursday, 16 December 2010 14:34 (thirteen years ago) link
it's the emo that's drippy, son
― ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Thursday, 16 December 2010 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link
imo this show isn't at all over-the-line with PLEASE CARE ABOUT THIS LOVE TRIANGLE type Office/Parks & Recreation shit and has balanced the little bits of sentiment and emotion with the comedy really well.
― some dude, Thursday, 16 December 2010 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link
history mayne should probably just stick to the safe, emo-free climes of adult swim
― da croupier, Thursday, 16 December 2010 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link
― Mordy, Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:15 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
yeah but not "more affecting actually."
― unemployed aerosmith fans I have shoved (bernard snowy), Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link
how does the killfile work again
― kanellos (gbx), Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link
when writing conversationally, you are allowed to use sentence fragments. ffs
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link
whatever, s1ockbot5000.
― some dude, Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link
^ sentence fragment http://www.olbermannwatch.com/DrudgeSiren.gif
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm pretty sure Webster's decided last year that "whatever" now functions as a complete sentence.
― some dude, Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess if you define it as a verb
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link
What is the subject and ever is the predicate. What did what do? Ever.
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Whatever voted most irritating word in poll
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link
pretty sure it's a verb
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link
1. interrog. An emphatic extension of what, used in a question (direct or indirect), implying perplexity or surprise. Now colloq. b. adj.2. As nominal relative, in a generalized or indefinite sense: see ever adv. 8e (Occas. with correlative demonstrative following.) a. pron. Anything at all which, anything that; sometimes contextually (esp. poet.), all that, everything that. b. adj. (sing. or pl., of things or persons): Any‥at all which (or who), any‥that; sometimes (poet.), all or every‥that.3. Introducing a qualifying subord. clause equivalent to a conditional or disjunctive clause, often with verb in subjunctive ( whatever happen = ‘if any (sort of) thing happen’, ‘whether one thing or another happen’). a. pron. = ‘No matter what’; frequently implying opposition (equivalent to a conditional clause with though): = ‘Notwithstanding anything that’. b. adj. = ‘No matter what‥’; often implying opposition: = ‘Notwithstanding any‥that’. c. adv. Whatever may be the case, at all events. dial. (and colloq.). 4. As indefinite adj. or pron., with loss of the relative force: cf. what. a. adj. (sing. or pl., of things or persons); Any‥at all.(a) preceding the n.: cf. what 9c.Obs. or merged in the elliptical use under 3b.(b) following the n.: usually, now only, after any, no, all (anything, nothing), etc., which it qualifies like an adv. = ‘at all’: cf. ever adv. 8.b. pron. Anything at all: cf. what 1.rare.c. or whatever: used after a noun (or nouns) to suggest that some other unspecified term might be employed instead, as being more usual, preferable for any reason, or more applicable; or something similar; or the like. colloq.d. Similarly replacing other parts of speech.n. Substituted for a word, name, title, or category which is not known or cannot be recalled; chiefly used as a perfunctory designation of anything a speaker is reluctant or unable to describe specifically. a. In phrases, as whatever-it-is, whatever-you-call-it, etc. b. Chiefly in pl.
b. adj.
2. As nominal relative, in a generalized or indefinite sense: see ever adv. 8e (Occas. with correlative demonstrative following.)
a. pron. Anything at all which, anything that; sometimes contextually (esp. poet.), all that, everything that. b. adj. (sing. or pl., of things or persons): Any‥at all which (or who), any‥that; sometimes (poet.), all or every‥that.
3. Introducing a qualifying subord. clause equivalent to a conditional or disjunctive clause, often with verb in subjunctive ( whatever happen = ‘if any (sort of) thing happen’, ‘whether one thing or another happen’).
a. pron. = ‘No matter what’; frequently implying opposition (equivalent to a conditional clause with though): = ‘Notwithstanding anything that’. b. adj. = ‘No matter what‥’; often implying opposition: = ‘Notwithstanding any‥that’. c. adv. Whatever may be the case, at all events. dial. (and colloq.).
4. As indefinite adj. or pron., with loss of the relative force: cf. what.
a. adj. (sing. or pl., of things or persons); Any‥at all.
(a) preceding the n.: cf. what 9c.Obs. or merged in the elliptical use under 3b.(b) following the n.: usually, now only, after any, no, all (anything, nothing), etc., which it qualifies like an adv. = ‘at all’: cf. ever adv. 8.
b. pron. Anything at all: cf. what 1.rare.c. or whatever: used after a noun (or nouns) to suggest that some other unspecified term might be employed instead, as being more usual, preferable for any reason, or more applicable; or something similar; or the like. colloq.d. Similarly replacing other parts of speech.
n. Substituted for a word, name, title, or category which is not known or cannot be recalled; chiefly used as a perfunctory designation of anything a speaker is reluctant or unable to describe specifically.
a. In phrases, as whatever-it-is, whatever-you-call-it, etc. b. Chiefly in pl.
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link
I believe the full sentence 'whatever' is the 3c definition, and here is the OED's history of word use for that definition:
1870 Barber Forness Folk 15, I cuddent leave t' pleass whativver wi'out seein' her.1900 ‘A. Raine’ Garthowen 93 She's got a tidy pair of ankles, whatever.1933 ‘R. Connor’ Girl from Glengarry 120, I am doing my utmost whatever.1960 R. Williams Border Country i. ii. 58 What do it matter it's down?‥ He is Will whatever.1962 Amer. N. & Q. I. 15/1 Whatever, from the early 1700s to the present day‥it was the musical that struck root as an indigenous form.1980 New Musical Express 12 Jan. 33/1 Whatever, the myth looks momentous in its sleek new American threads.
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link
http://rlv.zcache.com/whatever_dude_mug-p1688753014254541012otmb_400.jpg
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link
did i seriously incite an actual debate about the word "whatever" with my throwaway joke? R.I.P. cool laid back thread about funny comedy show
― some dude, Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
im just talking shit personally
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess i just inadvertently activated Mordytron's dictionary app
― some dude, Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link
She's got a tidy pair of ankles, whatever.
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link
(Re: Alison Brie)
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link
@AnniesAnkles available as twitter handle
― some dude, Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link
seriously dude, I have a friend that only says "whatever" when I say I don't want to hang out or talk on the phone. the word has taken on such disgruntled connotations for me that I will never see it as laid back 90's slang again
but back to gnawing alison brie's ankles
― more affecting actually. (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link
i think we all should raid community twitters until one of us is mentioned on the show
― more affecting actually. (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link