What's up with hating on the Doors?

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scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 20 November 2006 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

groups as bad as Depeche Mode
groups as bad as Depeche Mode
groups as bad as Depeche Mode
groups as bad as Depeche Mode
groups as bad as Depeche Mode

Good-Time Slim, Uncle Doobie, and the Great 'Frisco Freak-Out (sixteen sergeants, Monday, 20 November 2006 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

did jim morrison even inflict any of his (non-musical) poetry on the public before he died?

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 20 November 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Worth repeating:

the true geniuses - Lennon, Dylan, Tom from Kasabian

ONIMO feels teh NOIZE (GerryNemo), Monday, 20 November 2006 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

PS For a long time, the extent of my knowledge of the Doors was:

- they didn't have a bass player
- they did that song "The End"
- a lot of people worship Jim Morrison as some kind of "totally deep poet, maaaaaaaan"

You can see how, based on this knowledge, I would think they were the worst group in the history of music. But then one day, I accidentally stumbled into a free show by a Doors cover band, and -- wonder of wonders -- it was actually pretty fun, rockin' music! Still haven't bought any albums, but it made me realize that maybe this was just another case of douchebag fans making good music look bad (cf. Pitchfork Kid A review that made me want to never listen to music again)

Good-Time Slim, Uncle Doobie, and the Great 'Frisco Freak-Out (sixteen sergeants, Monday, 20 November 2006 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I read No One Here Gets Out Alive when I was a kid before I had encountered much of their music, and my imagination conjured up something that sounded like Hawkwind crossed with The Stooges. Then I heard some actual Doors records and was like wtf.

did jim morrison even inflict any of his (non-musical) poetry on the public before he died?

Wasn't he focusing primarily on poetry when he was in Paris?

Edward III (edward iii), Monday, 20 November 2006 15:05 (seventeen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_American_Prayer

Wiki says An American Prayer was recorded during a 1970 "poetry session".

Edward III (edward iii), Monday, 20 November 2006 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

but it didn't come out till after he died, right? i dunno. how much of the crap that has come out would he have put out himself. we all do cringeworthy things in our 20's.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 20 November 2006 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link

the kasabian line is a joek right?

benrique (Enrique), Monday, 20 November 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

More from Wiki:
Even though Morrison was a well-known singer and lyricist, he encountered difficulty when searching for a publisher for his poetry. He self-published two slim volumes in 1969, The Lords / Notes on Vision and The New Creatures. Both works were dedicated to "Pamela Susan" (Courson). These were the only writings to be published during Morrison's lifetime.

Edward III (edward iii), Monday, 20 November 2006 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

okay, so he did TRY to inflict it on people.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 20 November 2006 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Jim Morrison, inflictor of pomes.

Edward III (edward iii), Monday, 20 November 2006 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Wikip also offers this nugget of info:

After Morrison's death, Iggy was considered as a replacement for Morrison; the surviving Doors gave Iggy some of Morrison's belongings, and hired him as a vocalist for a series of shows.

News to me!

Edward III (edward iii), Monday, 20 November 2006 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

That was actually my Random Wikipedia Fact I Found One Boring Sunday Afternoon And Then Told Everyone At Work About On Monday a few weeks ago! (this week's was the Sun Ra thing that I just posted in the control freaks thread)

Good-Time Slim, Uncle Doobie, and the Great 'Frisco Freak-Out (sixteen sergeants, Monday, 20 November 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

ten years pass...

Sorry but Roadhouse is so good

calstars, Saturday, 23 September 2017 01:25 (six years ago) link

let it roll baby

brimstead, Saturday, 23 September 2017 03:09 (six years ago) link

This band won me over in the end - sure, not everything they did was great, but their best stuff was truly wonderful.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 23 September 2017 08:39 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

. Fine. I won't hate the Doors.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 03:13 (four years ago) link

I only lke listening to three Doors songs: peace frog, riders on the storm and crystal ship, mainly because I love the basslines in them. None of those are in that list :(

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 04:16 (four years ago) link

I know “light my fire” and “the end” are two of their most emblematic songs but they bore me so much, I can’t even think about them without feeling slightly bored. They’re boring in a dreadful kind of way.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 04:22 (four years ago) link

Nile Rodgers picked "The End" as his #1 Desert Island Disc for the BBC, which genuinely surprised me. He was having some kind of formative LSD experience the first time he heard it.

Josefa, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 04:34 (four years ago) link

Even snoring has the potential to sound interesting on LSD though.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 04:40 (four years ago) link

And there is another point. No matter how spoiled, vengeful or self-indulgent any supposedly titanic talent may be, the true geniuses - Lennon, Dylan, Tom from Kasabian - always exhibit some thread of empathetic humanity

i couldn't remember who kasabian were so i googled them and discovered that they are, in fact, the band that has been "described as a mix between The Stone Roses and Primal Scream with the swagger of Oasis."

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 05:45 (four years ago) link

the Doors are so great

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 13:48 (four years ago) link

ventured into barnes and noble yesterday. they had this in the racks. pricetag? $21.99.

fucking lol

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:31 (four years ago) link

Even in my most enthusiastic Doors phase Light My Fire has always bored me. Strange Days is a good album and I still smile whenever LA Woman comes on.

o. nate, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link

they were so audacious in every sense of the word, so incredibly ridiculous and sometimes beautiful and terrible and amazing and lame, the whole idea of the Doors seems like it never should have existed, psychedelic questers and low barroom drunks, proggy organ jackoffs and frustrated jazz welded to hard L.A. sleaze, bad poetry and funky drums and how many bands even risked half as much?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

Doing a Doors deep dive at the moment and can I just say how much I absolutely HATE how nowadays they’ve shoehorned in the “missing” vocals in “Break On Through”? “Everybody loves my baby, she get HIGH… she get HIGH… she get HIGH yeaaaahhh”. There is no way in hell those are from the same vocal take. Also fuck all these “anniversary remixes” and “Light My Fire” sped up to “correct speed” bullshit. Buy the original records or the 1988 CDs or gtfo.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 17 November 2022 08:49 (one year ago) link

Light My Fire is a terrible song

I once accepted a free ticket to see the Doors of the 21st Century with Ian Astbury on vocals, it was unbearable and I had to leave before the encore which was clearly gonna be Riders on the Storm into Light My Fire and I would have died

The best thing about that show was that Asbury gave an interview in local street press (maybe same interview everywhere, I dunno) where he said Jim Morrison came to him in a dream and said it was cool to do the schtick but he wasn’t allowed to sing The End

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Thursday, 17 November 2022 09:39 (one year ago) link

listening to LA woman recently and having fun imaging Ian Curtis singing it … “city at night - city at night!”

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Thursday, 17 November 2022 12:02 (one year ago) link

Yes

Meet Me in the Z'Ha'Dum (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 November 2022 12:53 (one year ago) link

I like the sound of the DCC Compact Classics reissues for the self-titled and L.A. Woman. Tube mastering, and yes, just as they were originally released (no remixes or flying in those additional bits).

But reservations still remain. I can't listen to "The End" all the way through with a straight face. Best cover ever comes at the end of this sketch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqPB1NlM4ew

birdistheword, Thursday, 17 November 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link

love it

calstars, Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

looool I had never seen that sketch.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link

I have the vinyl box that came out 15 years ago or whatever, sounds fine to me. It has both stereo and mono versions of the s/t

lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link


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