Batman carries on beginning in ... The Dark Knight

Crazy-Quilt's sight was restored briefly for a time after he kidnapped a surgeon to assist him, Batman and Grayson's Robin intervened, and in self defence, Robin reflected the madman's light beams back into his newly restored eyes, inadvertently blinding Quilter permanently. Obsessing over his young adversary, he became one of the few batvillains to hate Robin more than his mentor.

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Whoa Bookworm was played by Roddy McDowall!

http://ibelieveinharveydent.warnerbros.com/images/dent.jpg

called it

as in: i read the internet

Plus, Batmanuel (!!!) Nestor Carbonell is reportedly playing the mayor of Gotham in this.

I think that Joker looks pretty stupid. What's up with the smeared lipstick and the scars? I thought Joker was supposed to be an evil dandy clown, not a horror movie monster.

i think it fits, tho i grew up on the batman of 'dark knight'/'killing joke' moreso than cesar romero.

Yeah, I thought Joker was supposed to be a horribly mutilated mass murderer.

if you look at that picture closely, you'll see there are in fact some mutilated parts below the cheek area.

i'm still undecided by it though

I thought Joker was supposed to be an evil dandy clown, not a horror movie monster.

the evil dandy clown version was done already in the Burton Batman. the character has been interpreted in enough various ways to warrant doing it differently this time around. i like it, it keeps the villain in line with the "creepy" approach they took towards the Scarecrow.

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This was the Joker-fied Dent banner that was hiding that new Joker Wayne Gacy pic. There's been a bit more of this viral marketing thingy going on apparently. Details here:

http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/12513314.html

I'm getting excited now.

yeah, there was this site too with the wierd secret messages :

http://ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com/

im so happy eric roberts is in this

when is this out again?

next summer

im so happy eric roberts is in this

-- homosexual II, Tuesday, May 22, 2007 1:08 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

wow i guess there really is a first time for everything!

So looking forward to this.

http://ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com/

"see you in december"

but what happens in December?

I think that Joker looks pretty stupid. What's up with the smeared lipstick and the scars? I thought Joker was supposed to be an evil dandy clown, not a horror movie monster

Um, no.

Well, yeah, I know he's face was changed in a chemical accident, and I'm not against character revision... It's just that the image seems to imply they want to have a "darker", more brutal Joker, which is in line with the altogether darker approach they're taking with the new films, and I'm not sure if that's a good thing. The nice thing with Burton's films (and even Schumacher's) was that they blended the Gothy darkness with the essential absurdity in the heart of any superhero story, so they worked fine as modern fables. But as I said in the big debate we had about Batman Begins, I don't think Batman should be taken too seriously, which is why I think Joker works better as a dapper fellow who's just completely insane, rather than as some Hannibal Lecter type of psychopath serial killer.

Besides, if Joker has a mutilated face, doesn't he come a bit too close to Two-Face, who I see is also in the film?

The nightmarish visions of what the Batman Begins thread turned into are starting to recur...

> doesn't he come a bit too close to Two-Face, who I see is also in the film?

did the big Harvey Dent posters tip you off? 8)

that 'see you in december' is what the html source of that page reads if you scrub out all the 'Ha Ha' stuff. no idea what it means, other than 'wait'.

Heath's face too fat and round to play the Joker. Mind you so was Nicholson's.

Dude, with the exception of the 1940s-1960s, the Joker has always been portrayed as a violent sociopath, not a hilarious trickster-thief. I mean, look at what he did to poor Barbara Gordon. Playing the Joker dark and scary is totally appropriate and lives up to what (IMO) is the best part about Batman--the really awesome/interesting/scary villains. xxpost

I don't mean he shouldn't be dark and scary and violent, I'd just rather see him as funny-dark rather tortured-dark.

Yeah, it's totally in keeping with Batman existing more along the Doc Savage/The Shadow/Dick Tracy axis than the Superman/Green Lantern axis.

For that matter, Captain America and the Red Skull pretty much work the same kind of angle.

Here is how I would cast it:

Batman/Bruce Wayne: Mark
Two-Face/Harvey Dent: Scott
Joker: Kevin
Gordon: Bruce
Barbara Gordon: Dave

FWIW I think The Joker's "dark sense of humor" is supposed to come into play in this film.

BONUS POINTS: Katie Holmes is replaced by Maggie Gyllenhaal as Rachel Dawes in this.

And thank god for that.

Does anyone know if this movie is based on "The Long Halloween"? The last one already took some bits of it, and the Harvey Dent thing makes me suspect this one will too.

ledge otm about nicholson face.

but the more i'm reading stuff online about this new one the more i'm warming to it. I love dark and nasty Joker, and am a huge fan of the Arkham Asylum graphic novel.

it's difficult to draw a conclusion on how Ledger is going to play this Joker just from one picture tho. I'm sure they'll be some 'harlequinn' banter at some point surely.

Okay that is perfect!

The Joker isn't in The Long Halloween. It DOES look like it will take elements of that and Dark Victory though, since Sal Maroni is also in it.

Can we cast Jake Gyllenhaal as Gay Cowboy?

I am kind of wondering if the A Story will be from Long Halloween, and Anthony Michael Hall will be the Calendar Killer.

Also, when do we see Robin? Wouldn't it be great if they'd someday come up with a Batman/Robin love story, where Katie Holmes would act as Bruce Wayne's beard?

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I think Joker is in the Long Halloween, but he has only a minor part... Maybe in the movie he's responsible for Harvey Dent's fate rather than the mobsters.

My guess is the newly-mutilated Joker is going on a revenge spree against the mobsters responsible with Bruce and Harvey trying to stop him, and prevent a gang war, with a big ironic finale as Havey gets Two-faced by the same poison that Jokered the Joker.

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I was a bit underwhelmed by The Long Halloween to be honest. Lots of great atmospheres there, but in the end it was just a run-of-the-mill whodunit with a run-of-the-mill twist ending. They should've focused more on Harvey Dent's metamorphosis, which was the most interesting part of the story.

I think of Loeb as second-rate at best, so yeah, I agree.

long halloween was not great.

I didn't really get "Arkham Asylum."

I don't mean he shouldn't be dark and scary and violent, I'd just rather see him as funny-dark rather tortured-dark.

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SO THEN GO WATCH THE IDIOTIC TIM BURTON FILM FOR GOD'S SAKE TUOMAS

or the cartoon series, or the television series from the 60s, or...etc etc!!

It's all Jungian and shit. Fuckin' Morrison. (I don't think AA is one of his better works, but I'd take minor Morrison over a Loeb 'masterpiece' anyday.)

i am so so so there for this if aaron eckhart is playing harvey dent tho. i mean i was there for this before that but now i'm 100% on board.

Look upthread, Ally.

wtf do you think i was referring to, ned.

u makin me crazy, bro!!

xpost Whoa. Now I happen to think that Batman Begins is the best batman movie yet, but let's not get too crazy. Keaton was awesome, and Burton's film was a lot of fun.