Staind "goes country" and holy hell is it ever awful

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I can see him looking at a blank page thinking, "I will now write a song declaring I am everything they accuse Toby Keith of being."

EZ Snappin, Friday, 10 December 2010 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link

"the old guy" is George Jones! xp

woah, he got *old* ... I just knew that it was somebody famous, I couldn't remember who (should have recognized the voice though).

This thread needs some pictures:

http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2008/08/13/previews/Staind-CSW-004608.jpg

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 10 December 2010 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I bet in interviews now he's all "It was when I played the 9/11 tribute...I knew my calling..."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 December 2010 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

That would mean this song took nine years to write.

A brownish area with points (chap), Friday, 10 December 2010 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I wouldn't put it past him.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 December 2010 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Since when is this country? How is this country music? He has an enviable voice though. I don't think this is the best song I've heard but it's not the worst either.

intuit my middle finger, then (u s steel), Friday, 10 December 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

well for one thing it's called "country boy"

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 10 December 2010 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

The Vaselines begat Nirvana
Nirvana begat Pearl Jam
Pearl Jam begat Staind

I blame The Vaselines for this song

Satantango! (Matt #2), Friday, 10 December 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link

"the old guy" is George Jones!

the other old guy -- on fiddle and speechifying at the end -- is charlie daniels.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 10 December 2010 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link

man george :(

that really bums me out...

charlie daniels has always been a hateful shitbag, fuck that guy forever, his band fucking suck ass, dude is the santana of country, what a jack-off

this is pretty much as awful as it gets.

311 did 4/20 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link

it's not that this is a shitty song, it's that it's barely a song

goole, Friday, 10 December 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Hey come on Devil Went Down to Georgia is a classic. Love how stupid people everywhere think the devil with his enhancements and flashy studio help is the better fiddler. Even I rooted for the devil when I was a kid.

intuit my middle finger, then (u s steel), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah but don't get it twisted, don't buy charlie daniels albums, they suck, he had one comedy devil hit that's it. piece of shit

311 did 4/20 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

The Vaselines begat Nirvana
Nirvana begat Pearl Jam
Pearl Jam begat Staind

Blame Durst.. I'm pretty sure he discovered them.

OMG that dude at the end of this song is amazing.

billstevejim, Friday, 10 December 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

chesapeakeseadux
2 hours ago

much better then all the crap about growing up in the country that every one else is singing thses days, at least aaron lewis feels what he sings and not just singing what someone else wrote to make money

Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

This is like some producer threw "A Country Boy Can Survive" by Hank Jr. and "Wanted Dead Or Alive' in some unholy cloning machine.

The animal magnetism of Tim Pawlenty (Dan Peterson), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Never before have I seen anyone so earnestly and lengthily declare themselves an idiot.

― A brownish area with points (chap), Friday, December 10, 2010 2:36 PM (3 hours ago)

^^^ otm

unemployed aerosmith fans I have shoved (bernard snowy), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, I will buy that Lewis wrote these lyrics himself. they're as trite and on the nose as everything he wrote for Staind.

Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

this is so tuneless. I don't know how any of you even make it past the minute mark

fuckin magnates, why don't they work (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

oh man charlie daniels' schtick at the end about how anyone who wants to "change things" has to go through him — two words out of that fat old fuck's mouth and I'm like, okay chuck, let's fuckin do this

unemployed aerosmith fans I have shoved (bernard snowy), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

to hear how worse it gets as it gets on. You think the guns part is the worst bit then bingo here's the speech.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 10 December 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

it's a 'slo-burner'

unemployed aerosmith fans I have shoved (bernard snowy), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

this is just so crass and pandering... and I each country fan, but if I were, I would be as insulted as if Will Smith's wife decided to start a metal band oh wait

Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

that should be "I'm not a huge country fan"

Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

in fairness, Jada's metal band was nowhere near as bad as this

OMG wtf is this shit about flags

did he just attempt to rhyme "feel" with "blue", followed by "made" with "grave"

BO (DJP), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link

bleeeeeeeeoooooooo

fuckin magnates, why don't they work (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I just... this isn't even a song, in some ways? not to get all Geir but there is NO melody, the rhythm is some sort of lumpen flatulent slow-paced nothing, there's a bunch of words hokey phrases strung together in a haphazard way, there's no chorus, there's no structure... it's just... waht

fuckin magnates, why don't they work (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I wasn't watching the video so when I switched tabs to see Lewis stand up from the woods with acoustic guitar in one hand and rifle in the other, the roffles could no longer contain themselves

It doesn't help that an evil part of my brain keeps going "DONUT BITCH, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?"

BO (DJP), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Hahaha

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 December 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

lmbo tbh my favorite part is the photo a few seconds in that flashes up after the lyrics "now i grew up etc...." with 'Me - age 2' written in sharpie for clarification

omar little, Friday, 10 December 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

jeez i didn't even see that every single photo has this shit, nm but lol

omar little, Friday, 10 December 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

He is certainly earnest about his blatant disingenuousness.

Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 10 December 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Bring back Garth Brooks, I really liked him.

intuit my middle finger, then (u s steel), Friday, 10 December 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

what is it with shit heavy rock/metal bands going country?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 10 December 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

And someone please explain why Hank III is so popular with a certain kind of metaller.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 10 December 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link

usually the only reason they go shit heavy rock/metal is because the country scene didn't want them

BO (DJP), Friday, 10 December 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

if there's more where this came from, may god have mercy on us all.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Friday, 10 December 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

This song owns. Maybe you haters should go back to Russia.

Princess TamTam, Friday, 10 December 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

i can't believe this isn't a joke?

erin brokovich (rip van wanko), Friday, 10 December 2010 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link

this is the most inefficient song i've ever heard

goole, Friday, 10 December 2010 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link

he needs like 28 lines to describe two flags everyone's seen before

FLAG IN MY YARD

IT'S GOT RED STRIPES

BUT SOME STRIPES ARE WHITE

THERE'S A BLUE PART

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN

AND STARS

AND THEN THERE'S THIS OTHER FLAG

goole, Friday, 10 December 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

haaaaaaaaaa

BO (DJP), Friday, 10 December 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

fuckin magnates, why don't they work (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 December 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

this shit makes lee greenwood sound like the coup

omar little, Friday, 10 December 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

What is that flag with dont tread on me? not seen that before

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 10 December 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

um are you an American

fuckin magnates, why don't they work (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 December 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_flag

goole, Friday, 10 December 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

No
xp

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 10 December 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

jvfd1730
3 days ago
Real musicians sing and play whatever they damn well want because they can pull anything off, exhibit A Aaron Lewis singing a song of who really is. A country boy myself I immediately relate to what he is saying, it dont matter what you put on your body or what you say, as long as its who you are your still being yourself. And that is how i can relate to this song. Sing it brotha!! Great song!

guys... its just about being true 2 urself... all u sneering cityboy liberals cant understand what its like bein a fat country boy in cutthroat hollywood.... alll tho;se slick empty suits tried 2 make him into something he isnt, bue he tsayed true to what he is!!!! now he murders deer

Princess TamTam, Friday, 10 December 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

the Metallica flag

people for the slutty/common/american way (kkvgz), Friday, 10 December 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

dude's pre-staind band will bring a tear to your eye:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WNlwk4wpuc&feature=related

scott seward, Friday, 10 December 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Staind "goes reggaeton" and holy hell is it ever delightful! xxp

Simon H., Friday, 10 December 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

god street wine

omar little, Friday, 10 December 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

this guy's whole career = when keeping it real goes wrong

fuckin magnates, why don't they work (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 December 2010 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

hahaha

"Kiss Players♥" (DJP), Friday, 10 December 2010 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfD-E9hKCWM

omar little, Friday, 10 December 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

A stunning return to form.

http://deadspin.com/world-series-national-anthem-botched-by-that-asshole-fr-1651071056

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 October 2014 01:49 (nine years ago) link

I hate his music with all my soul but that seemed like an honest mistake.

Moka, Monday, 27 October 2014 08:26 (nine years ago) link

"shitty noise band Staind"

I'm waiting for the Staind / Merzbow collaborative 10".

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 27 October 2014 09:30 (nine years ago) link

i mean sure it's an honest mistake but that's the point. singing the national anthem at a major sporting event is the most scrutinized 2 minutes in any musical performer's career. not every version is gonna be great, but if you flub the words you get no sympathy, you knew people would be watching you like a hawk.

some dude, Monday, 27 October 2014 12:19 (nine years ago) link

Particularly if you've made criticized someone else for messing up the lyrics.

kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 12:55 (nine years ago) link

Wtf I shouldn't post when I'm half asleep

kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 13:30 (nine years ago) link

Jurgen Van Gulchthro @swarthyvillain · Sep 22
KERRY: I love Hobostink, Mushroomdead, um, all those fellows
(boos)
BUSH: I own vinyl of Staind's rare EP "Pissed at Memories"
(cheers)

ciderpress, Monday, 27 October 2014 13:51 (nine years ago) link

All I can say is I'm sorry and ask for the Nation's forgiveness. My nerves got the best of me and I am completely torn up about what happened. America is the greatest country in the world. The Star-Spangled Banner means so much to so many, including myself. I hope everyone can understand the intensity of the situation and my true intent of this performance. I hope that the Nation, Major League Baseball and the many fans of our national pastime can forgive me.

"Sure."

"I meant all of my music."

"Fuck you."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 October 2014 15:02 (nine years ago) link

Does he mean Steeler Nation?

kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:04 (nine years ago) link

Oh, Staind can you see by the dawn's early light
What so proudly we Staind at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright Stainds thru the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we Staind were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket's Staind glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was Staind there.
Oh, say does that Staind-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the Staind?

example (crüt), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:10 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

It has been a while, hasn't it.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 16:29 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

Hadn’t heard news of this guy since around 2002, so wasn’t aware he’s a huge asshole: https://variety.com/2019/music/news/stainds-aaron-lewis-on-his-solo-country-act-and-political-correctness-1203188656/

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Saturday, 13 April 2019 04:08 (five years ago) link

well that wins the award for link i'll least likely click on for the year, congrats morrisp

cheese canopy (map), Saturday, 13 April 2019 05:32 (five years ago) link

Good call — it’s worse than you think.

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Saturday, 13 April 2019 05:47 (five years ago) link

morrisp, here is some more evidence of his assholery. I had forgotten about this thread so I posted it over in best Fred Durst shoutout in Staind's "Outside"

☮ (peace, man), Saturday, 13 April 2019 09:50 (five years ago) link

Good call — it’s worse than you think.

i just read it and this is overhyping it. he seems like a pretty dull & ignorant guy but we already knew that and the things he says here are pretty cookie-cutter.

buttigieg play the blues (crüt), Saturday, 13 April 2019 13:57 (five years ago) link

I’m never prepared for “P-c-h-nt-s” bullshit

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Saturday, 13 April 2019 14:12 (five years ago) link

it's vile, for sure.

buttigieg play the blues (crüt), Saturday, 13 April 2019 14:18 (five years ago) link

2014: "All I can say is I'm sorry and ask for the Nation's forgiveness."

Many great artists have had to make abject apologies to the country, although they were mainly in Stalinist Russia and it was Shostakovich and Prokofiev, not the bloke from Staind

sbahnhof, Saturday, 20 April 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

i'll always have a soft spot for Staind because they were my first opening band at my first concert (Korn in 2000 lol)

DT, Friday, 25 March 2022 20:20 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

there’s a lotta crazy stuff in this video but none of it comes close to the absolute insanity of having 4 monitor wedges for a solo acoustic show https://t.co/uFMEEgdHbD

— eve6 ha (@Eve6) March 21, 2022

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 June 2022 13:46 (one year ago) link

he released a song where he tells an anecdote about yelling at his television.

something tells me he's pretty comfortable with the sound of his own voice.

I'm ANTIFA and I vote. (Austin), Thursday, 9 June 2022 14:03 (one year ago) link

He actually did manage to make at least one good country album(haven't heard any before or since, and recent videos have me in no hurry to catch up)---from Rolling Country 2016, with eventual curmudgeon pushback, forcing me to improve:

Aaron Lewis, Sinner: title and theme song doesn't give us the devilish details, nor does Lewis's voice (though common-man robust and expressive, like the production) project the shadow of dark thangs you shouldn't ask about (so he gets a bit upstaged when Willie Nelson shows up occasionally on this track, although with an somewhat messed-up voice, alarmingly enough after two good albums this year: can go fast at that age). And Lewis is unwise enough to ask for even more comparison with Chris Stapleton by covering "Whiskey and You", this soon after the original release, too. Oh well, this album turns out to be all about a self-destructive man, after all, and about how there's more than one way to figure the damage.
Not that he can't enjoy it, and doesn't have a sense of humor, like "That Ain't Country" is not the usual tiresome sermon, and he does have a point, complaining about "good times and happy endings", at least, I'd like to think, if they're fake, but he (the guy in the song anyway) does seem to be a stubborn cuss, who wants it to be all bar-breath miserabilism all the time--then again he gets so happy with his Christmas misery list ( of tropes as sung by his hee-ros) that it starts to sound (well kind of) like "Twistin' The Night Away."
Also, there is kind of a perhaps accidentally pre-emptive strike/parody/answer song (re xpost Maren Morris on country as church), "Sunday Every Saturday Night", in which "whiskey fills the cracks in my soul...the preacher calls "Last Round"...Jesus says, "Son, you'll be alright", for a little while, o' course. It is whiskey and wry, close enough (and not too close) to deadpan to get banned, so far.
There are several a little too crisply articulate and well-balanced for convincing desperation---again, considering his handy, familiar vocal skills and their limits---but others tilt toward chaos or inchoate just enough---- the guy in "Mama" laments being "pieces glued together" instead of scattered, and it unsettles me every time---he may be the guy (or a forerunner, John the Baptist) of the self-made, outward success in "Lost and Lonely", who is also a Richard Cory in the making, "an albatross around my own neck", hoping his wife (or maybe the other, previous woman) can hold everything together 'til he gets back, and they can "get back to where we started so long ago, before my demons took over"---a long-distance trucker with a speed habit (among other problems)? A serial killer? Surely something more like the former--"He sounded so normal, Officer."
"I Lost It All" is a very tuneful, graceful, soulful (not over- or undersung) blurt, and his 13-year-old daughter Zoe gets to rush the beat but not over- or undersing "Travelin' Soldier", yay.

"Lewis is unwise enough to ask for even more comparison with Chris Stapleton"
hmmmm. Almost stopped reading your post there.
― curmudgeon
He gets wiser pretty soon.
― dow,
Perhaps its me, but wasn't sure from your lyrics-heavy description whether you liked the record, or not
― curmudgeon
I liked the *sound* right away---he recently closed out some late night talk show, you know how they usually put the musical artists right at the end, and I was shuffling by, getting ready for bed, but he caught my attention, held it, and I perked up enough to go google his album title (no idea of the Staind connection, had completely forgotten about them. Liked the sound of the stream right away too: Lewis's voice (though common-man robust and expressive, like the production) quite tasty high generic neurotic grooves, for the most part. I've come to like a few tracks more, a few less than I did early on, but it's worth checking out (especially on free Spotify, but might buy a nice-priced copy for somewhat spooky traveling companion, to keep me on my toes). I was also glad to find something sustaining yet plainer than much of my recent subtext-laden listening fare, something with yer more basic ups and downs.
― dow

dow, Thursday, 9 June 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link


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