Greatest Rap Album of all Time?

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any albums from the past 2-3 years deserved to be er "canonized"?
i guess most would throw out college dropout.
i would say tha carter II but we've all read enough comments on rap blogs on that front.
madvillany? boy in da corner? black album?

Jordan Sargent, Monday, 23 July 2007 04:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Deserves if it's good enough IMO.

The Fix is a little obscure - haven't heard that before.

College Dropout - no way can any Kanye West album be considered the best, IMO.

Jay-Z albums - I like many of the singles but never found them to be consistent enough to be labeled the greatest rap album ever.

Cannot comment on the other two, I'll have to check that out.

humansuit, Monday, 23 July 2007 05:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Illmatic

milo z, Monday, 23 July 2007 05:03 (sixteen years ago) link

College Dropout - no way can any Kanye West album be considered the best, IMO.

not best ever... merely top 15/20/25 ever.

Jordan Sargent, Monday, 23 July 2007 05:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Nation of Millions, hands down.

-- Rev. PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie 2), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 00:10 (1 year ago) Link

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 23 July 2007 05:30 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.threshrecs.com/collect_files/image004.jpg

luriqua, Monday, 23 July 2007 05:34 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.threshrecs.com/collect_files/image002.jpg

luriqua, Monday, 23 July 2007 05:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I honestly believe The Marshall Mathers LP will still be my favourite album ever in 20 odd years time. It's perfect in so many ways.

butchy, Monday, 23 July 2007 05:49 (sixteen years ago) link

NO WRONG RECORD ITS SUPPOSED T BE KOOL KEITH - COMMI$$IONER 2

luriqua, Monday, 23 July 2007 05:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Scarface is obscure!? I saw "My Block" on MTV and everything.

marmotwolof, Monday, 23 July 2007 05:56 (sixteen years ago) link

peaked at #4, five mics in the source, etc.

marmotwolof, Monday, 23 July 2007 05:58 (sixteen years ago) link

'madvillainy' deserves another mention definitely.

how about 'tricks of the shade' by The Goats ? not really a contender for best ever but unfairly forgotten in my eyes.

sam500, Monday, 23 July 2007 06:12 (sixteen years ago) link

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x245/chromski/image004.jpg

luriqua, Monday, 23 July 2007 06:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I skipped some thread but the thing about "N$$$$$$A PLEASE" is it has "I Can'T Wait" on it, and that's the best song ever recorded, so y'know it tends to make the rest of the rtec look pretty good too

President Evil, Monday, 23 July 2007 07:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Is this the RONG thread?

deej, Monday, 23 July 2007 07:44 (sixteen years ago) link

If compilations are kosher - and we're talking "favourite" rather than "best", I'd go with a Roxanne Shanté collection. Otherwise, AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted, I guess.

Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 23 July 2007 13:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Ones that come to mind as classics:

Only Built for Cuban Lynx
Deltron 3030
The Low End Theory
Ready to Die
Mississippi: The Album
The Blueprint
The Marshall Mathers LP
Raising Hell
Aquemini
Enter the Wu
The Cold Vein
Black Star
The Digital Underground record from 1990
Bubba Sparxx's Deliverance -- ridiculously underrated.
Supa Dupa Fly
Cypress Hill

Jiminy Krokus, Monday, 23 July 2007 14:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Don't make me bless this thread with a personal Top 100.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 23 July 2007 15:27 (sixteen years ago) link

wtf with that Kool Keith album

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 23 July 2007 16:14 (sixteen years ago) link

No Scarface isn't obscure just never heard that as the best ever, ever.

Do you really think that 'It Takes a Nation' is the best ever? Good, but wouldn't think that.

Jiminy I like that list and Low End Theory yes I think that needs to be considered seriously.

I hate Ice Cube and his retarded rant against Koreans so fuck his record.

humansuit, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 02:50 (sixteen years ago) link

STOP DISRESPECTING TUPAC

luriqua, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 04:05 (sixteen years ago) link

digital underground - sex packets

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 04:09 (sixteen years ago) link

luriqa that's not even the best 2pac album!

J0hn D., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 04:41 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.thuglife.ic.cz/obaly/All%20Eyez%20On%20Me%20(pred).jpg

am0n, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 05:14 (sixteen years ago) link

I never got the love for Makaveli.

But then, I never really got the love for Pac either.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 13:13 (sixteen years ago) link

He had a pretty face.

humansuit, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link

i never really got people who 'didn't get' pac

even when i was at my most reactionary 'pac is overrated' college-era pretentiousness i still 'got' why he resonated.

deej, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link

i do understand the impulse to say he's 'overrated,' he does inspire some passion in folks that is hard to reconcile with all the time, especially for a music nerd crowd that tends to avoid anything so directly emotional and finds such genuine-ness heavy-handed but it still seems abundantly clear why he resonated w/ so many people

deej, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link

So it's clear why he resonated and yet he's overrated. Check.

humansuit, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I suppose I phrased that wrong, didn't mean to come across anti-Pac on principle. What I was trying to say is that I never really liked him (mainly because of his voice, which I just can't get into and am surprised so many people can, hence 'not getting'), but I can certainly understand why he's got resonance.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:52 (sixteen years ago) link

this is right up there for me...

http://image.com.com/mp3/images/cover/200/drc400/c433/c433738d7uh.jpg

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link

am0n otm although I've always struggled with how nihilistic All Eyez is - Shock G had a great line on "Fear of a Mixed Planet" that ran "his special special gift was his love side/so many tryin' to be 'Pac, but only copped the thug side" but All Eyez is pretty short on the "love side" - there's "Life Goes On" and "I Ain't Mad Atcha" but these are a long way from the "conscious" stuff he'd done before, that political passion took a back seat to G stuff although it's fair to ask "isn't that where your head might be at if you'd just gotten out of prison?"

It's an uneven record but that's some of its strength for me, it's like this huge uncontrollable avalanche of creative energy. Some days though I think "Ready to Die" is better, but I am emo and R2D even when it's pissed off unhinged is pretty tightly controlled, while "All Eyez" is more raw imo and that's what I favor at the end of the day.

J0hn D., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I'll second Tuomas [...]

-- Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan)

never thought i'd see the day

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

(also the DOC getting in that car accident and losing his voice is one of the great tragedies in rap imo)

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link

i agree. he was great.

scott seward, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 16:23 (sixteen years ago) link

there is more than one greatest rap album of all time. there are a bunch.

scott seward, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 16:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Just reading about that in Third Coast, shit was fuckin tragic. How is his most recent record? I hear the voice is coming back a little? xxpost

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 16:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Scott - agreed. Especially since 'rap' covers such a broad spectrum of styles, but I love arguing over this.

humansuit, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link


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