Superhero Filmmakers: Where's Our Watchmen?

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How do you know it's a 100% turnout?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 13:12 (sixteen years ago) link

> they're not doing the giant squidalien explosion in this right? shame

spoilers!

> I'm not sure if adapting to the comic super-faithfully is the same as doing it right.

would also result in a 12 hour film. all the stills and all look great but how can they reduce it to 2 hours without killing it?

koogs, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 13:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Based on the size of the square they are in (and rough comparison with previous demonstrations there) there are about 50,000 people there. (I seem to recall something in LitG at the time saying there were somethiing like 20,000 extras used and composited in multiplied to make the crowd look bigger). Given he sent them all a mask each, which he was having made somewhere without attracting suspicion despite being under an OH NOES FASCIST state so the scale of production has to be a limiting factor on how many he can send out, even if he only sent them with a first class stamp that's £20,000 not to mention some pissed off Post Office staff.

xpost to Tuombot

aldo, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 13:22 (sixteen years ago) link

i can't believe anyone's wasting valuable bytes of bandwidth on the VfV film

DG, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 13:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Er, maybe the scene was just symbolic, you know? It's not like the movie implied in any way that he forced anyone to come there, so it seems kinda pointless to point out that oh no, maybe this scene in a allegorical sci-fi movie wasn't altogether realistic in terms of the logistics.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 13:51 (sixteen years ago) link

let go

aldo, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 13:54 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35862

Gukbe, Thursday, 6 March 2008 06:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Nite Owl looks pretty good but Veidt too obviously 'evil' maybe? It's all looking v Batmanny.

blueski, Thursday, 6 March 2008 13:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Comedian and Rorscach are good. Bit iffy on the others.

chap, Thursday, 6 March 2008 13:26 (sixteen years ago) link

I think these new suits are way too cool... And too "Batmanny" indeed. In the comic the suits were sorta intentionally silly, to emphasize the silliness of the whole idea of dressing in one.

Tuomas, Thursday, 6 March 2008 13:35 (sixteen years ago) link

RIP Nite Owl beergut

blueski, Thursday, 6 March 2008 13:43 (sixteen years ago) link

I think it would have been kind of impossible to pull off the silly suits in the flick. Hopefully they'll be sketching out the characters well enough to make it work anyway.

Morgan as Comedian looks perfect.

Also I think some of these pics are the young, "glory days" versions of the characters.

Simon H., Thursday, 6 March 2008 13:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I like the Nite Owl and Comedian - although the Nite Owl one kinda beats you over the head with who he's supposed to remind the audience of. The Rorschach is, well, just Rorschach really; it would have been hard to mess that one up.

The Veidt one just screams Bad Guy; which is a major mistake if you ask me. Just because it's a comic book movie doesn't mean the studio/writers/director has to assume that the typical viewer is going to be a drooling idiot.

Stone Monkey, Thursday, 6 March 2008 14:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I guess they're still trying to figure out Dr Manhattan

blueski, Thursday, 6 March 2008 14:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I think it may just be the lighting in that picture though, because there's an element of "All American boy" superhero to Veidt.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 6 March 2008 14:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Looks OK to me, maybe a little too grungy and dark™ for me. Liked the bright colours and clean lines of the original.

Bodrick III, Thursday, 6 March 2008 15:08 (sixteen years ago) link

What he said.

Dr. Superman, Friday, 7 March 2008 06:13 (sixteen years ago) link

OH SHI

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 7 March 2008 06:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Veidt doesn't look gay enough.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 7 March 2008 13:10 (sixteen years ago) link

I think these new suits are way too cool... And too "Batmanny" indeed.

There was an interview with Snyder saying something to to the effect his intent with this is to be to superhero movies what the graphic novel was to its own medium.

latebloomer, Saturday, 15 March 2008 07:44 (sixteen years ago) link

doesn't mean it'll turn out well, of course.

latebloomer, Saturday, 15 March 2008 07:45 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=43692

featurette about the building of the sets, if you're interested.

latebloomer, Sunday, 6 April 2008 15:10 (sixteen years ago) link

watchmen really gets better every time you read it. so does cerebus, but that's another thread.

ian, Monday, 7 April 2008 03:01 (sixteen years ago) link

> so does cerebus

...if you know when to stop.

Oilyrags, Monday, 7 April 2008 12:33 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, book 7 is where i get off the boat. and that's later than some people.

ian, Monday, 7 April 2008 15:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't know which one book seven is, but I figure you're doing ok to quit at halftime (the end of Mothers and Daughters.) Yeah, the crazy anti-life voids bullshit starts there, but it still isn't the main focus of the book.

Oilyrags, Monday, 7 April 2008 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I think it's good up to book 10, if you ignore the text sections in 9. There are brilliant moments tucked a way amongst the mentalism all the way to the end, though.

xpost - yeh, like Oily said.

chap, Monday, 7 April 2008 15:10 (sixteen years ago) link

oops - just looked at wiki and I was confused. Yes, quit at halftime, but that's just the end of the first part of Mothers and Daughters, not the whole thing. And it's book seven! So we agree.

"Guys" is worth a look just for its formal invention, though. Plus teh funneee.

Oilyrags, Monday, 7 April 2008 15:13 (sixteen years ago) link

eggzie postie

Oilyrags, Monday, 7 April 2008 15:13 (sixteen years ago) link

"Guys" is worth a look just for its formal invention, though. Plus teh funneee.

Formal invention and occasional funnies are the main draw of the whole of the latter third.

chap, Monday, 7 April 2008 15:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Hahah! From Wiki:

The Roach, along with Fleagle McGrew and Dirty Drew McGrew, appeared in a Sim-penned story in the anthology title AARGH (Artists Against Rampant Government Homophobia). With the title-sized speech bubbles "Terror in a Turgid Tool!" and "By my Loins- Betrayed!" it indicated the Roach was homosexual.

Oh, the ironing.

Oilyrags, Monday, 7 April 2008 15:30 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.joblo.com/video/player.php?video=Watchmen_480

latebloomer, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 04:13 (fifteen years ago) link

i thought that was gonna be a trailer... video journal? worth watching? is squirrel police in it?

s1ocki, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 06:07 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/26/business/media/26retail.html
Key point:
"The twist is that Mr. Snyder, known for turning the Spartan comic book series “300” into a global hit movie, is also directing a separate-but-related picture that Warner plans to distribute exclusively on DVD.

The second film, tentatively called “Tales of the Black Freighter,” follows a side “Watchmen” storyline about a shipwreck and will arrive in stores five days after the main movie rolls out in theaters. The DVD will also include a documentary-style film called “Under the Hood” that will delve into the characters’ backstories. "

treefell, Monday, 26 May 2008 13:40 (fifteen years ago) link

i always found the black freighter sections rather tedious, don't think i actually read the story until the third time i read the whole thing.

jeremy waters, Monday, 26 May 2008 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought the black freighter bit was the glue that held the thing together. What I got from the black freighter storyline was that that was also the storyline all the characters were following in the main story - most clearly Veidt, but also Rorschach and the others.

AlanSmithee, Monday, 26 May 2008 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, sort of. all the plot points converging on this horrible truth.

jeremy waters, Monday, 26 May 2008 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Namely: raw seagulls are delicious!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 May 2008 20:15 (fifteen years ago) link

kind of awesome that they're doing "under the hood"... the bits at the end of each issue were such an essential part of the story as a whole.

s1ocki, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I did have to coax myself into reading them but I am glad I did bcz they are key and good.

Abbott, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link

hope Veidt's still a dub reggae fan

latebloomer, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link

I HOPE IT HAS...KITTY!

p[urple kitty

Abbott, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link

kind of awesome that they're doing "under the hood"... the bits at the end of each issue were such an essential part of the story as a whole.

I was always wondering, how long was Hollis Mason's book supposed to be? Because his whole life story and the story of the masked heroes seems to have been pretty much covered in the 15 pages included in the comic.

Tuomas, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, I've always wondered if Dreiberg's ornithological article in the later issue is supposed to be allegorical in the same sense the Black Freighter story is, or is it just supposed to illuminate his character?

Tuomas, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe the rest of it is about vintage car repair?

Abbott, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I was always wondering, how long was Hollis Mason's book supposed to be? Because his whole life story and the story of the masked heroes seems to have been pretty much covered in the 15 pages included in the comic.

-- Tuomas, Monday, May 26, 2008 9:35 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

lol!! true

s1ocki, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link

OMG that ornithological article is IMO the most embarrassing part...such purple prose. And that kind of thing would never, ever show up in a peer-reviewed journal.

Abbott, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Haha, that would be awesome! Anyway, Mason turned out to be a good writer, didn't he? The scene in the beginning of the book with his boss and the fake boobs is just as touching as he imagines it to be.

(xx-post)

Tuomas, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Also he gets the Kitty Geniovese thing totally wrong.

Abbott, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link


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