i actually like the rolling stone list better than a lot of the indie-leaning sites!
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link
think that's the first i've seen taylor on a year-end list (yay)
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link
matt have you heard doorly & lady chann's "the one"? even better for my money.
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link
rolling stone honestly the one i like most so far. (not the same as one i'd like to check out most of)
― purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link
ok sorry must have glazed over the top 3, f u rolling stone
― purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link
remove the top 5, invert it and its a+
― purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
black keys album isn't a terrible choice for a rock mag to get behind
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Didn't really like that one but I'm blaming the producer. She works so much better over house/funky/dancehall crossover than lairy blokestep.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link
"the one" isn't that lairy. i think it's just a lot tighter as a song. my favourite 2010 lady chann thing is prob her "hold yuh" vocal though, "feel calm".
her next single "treble to your bass" is kind of toddla t-style banging - there'll be a marcus nasty remix too...
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link
It might be that I'm not interested in tight songs from her, particularly, I just want her to ferociously let rip. That Gyptian track showcases a soft side I didn't know she could pull off though, good stuff. Looking forward to the single you mention as well.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link
the crazy high ranking overall for The National is sheer over-compensation for their previosu 2 albums' placings it's like the Lord Of The Rings films at the Oscars.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Not all they're cracked up to be, fwiw:
27. Peter Wolf - Midnight Souvenirs23. Elizabeth Cook - Welder16. Kid Rock - Born Free12. John Mellencamp - No Better Than This09. Eminem - Recovery
That said, don't see how the RS list is worse than any other ones on this thread.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link
it's on youtube already.
between them, lady chann and cooly g are responsible for like 50% of my twitter timeline consisting of "kmt"
xps
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link
that eminem album is the worst (& i kinda-like everything through album #4 or so)
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe im just excited by seeing rick ross on a list, as he isn't part of the BERKD 'rap' crit hierarchy
― purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link
idk i think that's score one for "rap" crit hierarchy - rick ross deserves to be on no list
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link
(big boi, em, roots, kanye, drake)
― purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link
take big boi away and it could be DREK
the BAWSE was the best thing on the only supposedly perfect record of the century.
― purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link
if by the BAWSE you mean MINAJ
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link
ok second best.
But people's dainty sensitivities can cope with Kid Rock destroying all of black culture and history by being placed above Big Boi?
And Black Keys are a bad choice for a rock magazine to make, though not as bad as Elton John, John Mellencamp, The Roots, Maximum Balloon etc etc.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link
actually The Roots p otm for a rock magazine to make? it has fucking joanna newsom, the dirty projectors and a band of 'real' instruments on it.
― purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link
also being butthurt is not going to make people read yr site.
― purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link
And Black Keys are a bad choice for a rock magazine to make
this makes NO sense, they are just about a perfect choice for the "rolling stone demographic" as much as, say, liars/swans are solid choices for the "quietus demographic" -- feeling like you are just out to disagree w/ me ;_;
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Kid Rock destroying all of black culture
kid rock's not a "rapper" anymore, he's gone "country," didn't ya know?
Re: The Roots. I meant more that it's a terrible fucking record as is Black Keys - especially if it's being chosen because of a demographic. The same percentage of our readers hate Salem as people here do. What's the point of chosing a list by second guessing what your readers like?
I'm just traumatized because of the number of tranquilizers I took at ATP. My butt will be back to normal tomorrow.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Sorry, but that Roots record is by no means "terrible".
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link
All the indie-baiting songs that got the record buzz are pretty terrible, but the rest of the record is really good.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Roots is the nuts. Ok maybe the second worst Roots records but its like picking yr favourite child when all ten of them are AWESOME (plus the tipping point child.)
― purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link
drugs are bad, mmmkay?
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, I agree with you today.
Does everyone like The Roots then? You really do learn something new every day.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
me != everyone.
― purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
they are next up on my 'band i should stop forgetting exist' list
― modrić in paradise (blueski), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
but yeah they are the most consistent musicians of the past twenty years and people who don't like them or ?uestlove* are savages.
*in part responsible for two of the best two records of the past decade, voodoo and new amerykah
― purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Not to drag out another hoary old trope, but I often wonder how many people that hate the Roots really just hate the cult surrounding them. I mean, hate on some of the cring-worthy lyrics all you want, but these guys are astonishing musicians when they want to be.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
From what I can see 2010 has had no more unjustly overlooked record so far than Nina Nastasia's sublime 'Outlaster', which hasn't appeared anywhere at all yet.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Bit too smooth, wholesome and sophisticated for me... although I do still have about three albums by them and I agree with you about New Amerykah.
(In fact I don't think it's terrible at all but it didn't really stand out for me.)
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Sorry XP.
album i like not appearing itt: Delorean
― modrić in paradise (blueski), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link
What's wrong with a rap band being sophisticated? /outright trolling
Also listen to Do You Want More???!?!? or Game Theory or Rising Down and you won't be thinking "smooth" or "wholesome".
― purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah surprised at this - though having said that, while i fucking love the album, it's more "bobbing around the lower reaches of my top 20" than a show-in for any ballot i put together
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link
smooth wholesome & sophisticated (esp sophisticated) are the best things abt the roots ... weaknesses are pretty much black thought's lyrical stylings imo
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link
the sade and erykah albums haven't appeared on (m)any lists have they?
;_;
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link
It's top three for me easily, so many surprises in there.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link
There is absolutely nothing wrong with it at all but it's something that runs through most of my taste in music (admittedly with plenty of exceptions).
I guess I like the idea of a genre when it's still rough neck and like it less when it gets a make over for bars and expensive clubs etc. I felt the same way about jungle vs. intelligent drum and bass. I'm not really down with the Boomkat aesthetic with dance music for deep listening by the cognoscenti either. It's just a personal preference. In metal terms, it's what makes me like Slayer over Steve Vai or what have you.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link
See now I don't hear "bars and expensive clubs etc." at all in the Roots. Maybe its because they are the only famous hiphop band that they have that appearance? And cos they are a telly band? Something like Rising Down is dirty and noisy, much like that Waka was (in totally different ways obv).
― purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link
I haven't had a TV for years and they're not that famous in the UK, so I don't know where this has come from.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah convos about the Roots like this always tend to get caught up more in their image and reputation than what their records actually sound like. that said, How I Got Over runs counter to what people expect of them less than any of their last few albums have.
― Local Hardman (some dude), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, December 7, 2010 11:31 AM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
so where is flockaveli on your list
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link