Wow, that's what someone said to me on the Woody Allen thread the other day...for someone who doesn't do a great deal of serious thinking, you folks sure do think I do a lot of thinking!
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link
quantity/quality
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link
let go
― BIG MUFFIN (gbx), Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Now, don't get me mad--I'm pretty good at nasty if the right button's pushed.
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Coen Brothers and Roger Deakins are making a movie so who cares what it's based on or remaking or adapted from.
― Gukbe, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.ba-services.co.uk/Push%20Button%20Link.gif
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Big cartoon hand as metaphor for "Sorry for saying something so silly" noted.
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah thats how i always note that
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Anyway, take a step back, Yojimbo. I began by expressing skepticism that this project was a good idea, always making my assumptions clear along the way; conceded what I thought was a very good point by Number None; then tried to honestly explain why I've never seen the original. At what magical point did I begin "over-thinking"? That seems to be a very fluid line around here.
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link
thats just cr?my bein cr?my bro, dont take it personal
― Princess TamTam, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link
its a v fuiud line
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link
lol i read it that way too, at first
― Princess TamTam, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Ah, acronyms...could it be at all possible that you might under-thinking a little?
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link
unpossible
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Okay--we make the peace over a well-placed Ralph Wiggum quote. Touche.
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link
There's some precedent I'm trying to remember, where somebody got it right the second time, but I can't come up with the title.
Huston-Bogart was the THIRD version of The Maltese Falcon.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 4 December 2010 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link
That fits for sure, but it wasn't the one I was thinking of...I don't know. I love Michael Radford's 1984, but I haven't seen the '50s version and can't compare them. I know that Radford stayed fairly true to the novel, and I'm assuming (more assumptions) that he stayed truer than the earlier film.
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 December 2010 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link
kind of amazed that anyone is anticipating this when the trailer strongly indicates that jeff bridges' character may be grumpy in some scenes
― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Saturday, 4 December 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link
You're coming perilously close to over-thinking there--be careful.
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 December 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Reviews are coming in.
Also, NYT talking about Wayne vs. Bridges and points this out:
But other film devotees were less charmed, particularly when they viewed “True Grit” through the filter of Vietnam-era politics and Wayne’s conservative principles — which he had said were illustrated by a scene in which Cogburn shoots a rat after demonstrating the futility of trying to treat it under due process of law. (The new film has no such moment.)
The rat scene was in the book, so who knows yet which one is more faithful.
― Pleasant Plains, Sunday, 5 December 2010 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Wau, first ed of book had aws cover:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2b/True_Grit.jpg/418px-True_Grit.jpg
― ball (Hurting 2), Sunday, 5 December 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Thats the edition i have! Bought it at a library sale <3
― Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Sunday, 5 December 2010 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
This is perfectly fine. Bridges is a hoot whenever he's yakking, and ultimately touching (but then i gasp "I've grown old" about 5 times a week).
An attendee who watched the 1969 version yesterday reports it's 90% like the Wayne film. I'm glad they filmed the book's epilogue, though, as not liking Mattie much pays off.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 04:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Borderline spoiler --- there's a character that lives in the book, but dies in the 1969 movie. What happens to that character in the 2010 version?
― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 04:56 (thirteen years ago) link
zombie
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 05:00 (thirteen years ago) link
you'll hafta see, wontcha
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 05:11 (thirteen years ago) link
kinda skimmed the thread but key takeaways i took from a joel (?) coen interview was that the original lacked the humor and darkness of the book, as well as the narrative POV was not very faithful to the source.
that said, i saw the trailer and am very stoked. i'm planning on taking my mom to see it around xmas.
― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 05:34 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm honestly shocked the book is so popular. Is it that good?
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 12:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Are you shocked because the characters wear chaps instead of the petticoats required by fine literature?
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Ok so admittedly I am probably not going to love this in the first place, but I gave it a chance. Pretty good performances all round, particularly surprised by Matt Damon. Shot beautifully. Nice score. Just really...kinda boring?
Keep in mind I do like SOME westerns, but not many, and I mostly like the Coen brothers.
― Tilda Swinton Wreck Up A Dread Dub (admrl), Sunday, 12 December 2010 07:37 (thirteen years ago) link
it's a really beautifully photographed Disney western w/ nastier violence, that reveals in the epilogue that yes, that annoying girl grew up to be a c**t.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 12 December 2010 08:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh can we not say cunt on ilx now?
Haha iPhone tried to change "cunt" to "cynthia"
― Tilda Swinton Wreck Up A Dread Dub (admrl), Sunday, 12 December 2010 08:10 (thirteen years ago) link
i feel sorry ms plaster caster
― Ward Fowler, Sunday, 12 December 2010 08:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Girl was ok I guess. I mean she had to be fairly competent for movie to work, and it did. It was just unremarkable
― Tilda Swinton Wreck Up A Dread Dub (admrl), Sunday, 12 December 2010 08:12 (thirteen years ago) link
hey, I quite liked the performance. I also liked the drops of racism, as opposed to 'let's all pretend our 19th-century western characters are enlightened.'
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 12 December 2010 08:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Aside from some of the dialogue, this has to be the must un-coen bros coen bros movie I have thus far seen.
― Tilda Swinton Wreck Up A Dread Dub (admrl), Sunday, 12 December 2010 08:22 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't know how much of the dialogue is NOT from the book, but the Old West and its literature was absurdist long before they got to it.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 12 December 2010 08:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Although it’s hard not to notice Mr. Bridges’s turn as the Dude playing the Duke with a dash of Bad Blake, much of the film rests on the diminutive shoulders of Ms. Steinfeld, a 13-year-old who was plucked from 15,000 girls who turned up at casting calls or sent taped auditions.
“It was, as you can probably imagine, the source of a lot of anxiety,” Ethan said. “We were aware if the kid doesn’t work, there’s no movie.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/12/movies/12grit.html?_r=1&hpw=&pagewanted=all
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 12 December 2010 08:47 (thirteen years ago) link
“We all enjoyed ourselves. Except Joel. I don’t think that’s his specialty."
― Princess TamTam, Sunday, 12 December 2010 09:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Hey, Ethan stole my quote! Hi if you're reading, Coen Bros
― Tilda Swinton Wreck Up A Dread Dub (admrl), Sunday, 12 December 2010 13:01 (thirteen years ago) link
no country for old men was pretty un-coens
― akm, Sunday, 12 December 2010 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm only marginally interested in seeing this film
this really kind of feels like a wonderful world of disney special
― the chronicles of nornius (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link
oh, looks like morbs beat me to it.
^^^ I haven't seen it yet, but apparently "Coen Bros" and "Jeff Bridges" are enough for some of my friends to forget how redundant it all looks.
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 02:58 (thirteen years ago) link
it's not a BAD wonderful world of disney special! it actually plays like a pretty good, unflinchy family movie. which i think is kinda cool!
― the chronicles of nornius (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link
if i had a kid i would totally show that kid this and "me and orson welles"
Although it's an Old Movie, the original still gets shown often on cable. I prefer Bridges in grizzled mode to John Wayne but c'mon.
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm with you on Me and Orson Welles.
oh, you mean redundant cuz of the earlier one. gotcha.
― the chronicles of nornius (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 03:07 (thirteen years ago) link