curren$y (or currensy i guess) - pilot talk

and both are more popular than devin thd dude, not sure why he was even brought into this

wiz & him have done joint cds together so theres a massive audience overlap

also he had a minor hit of his own with "where the cash at"

i don't think, right now, curren$y could sell out a 600 sro space in nyc with a 25 cover. maybe with wiz? maybe not. and if he could, it would totally be because of black and yellow
i mean i know that's nyc but still.

i mean, that's kinda the standards i go by.

lol deej you're definition of star is broad as fuck

forks i'm willing to bet that wiz has already done that

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I don't think it would be JUST because of "Black and Yellow," I know people who know every fucking song Wiz has done.

i dont know the deal w/ venue sizes but im sure curren$y would sell out the metro in chicago just as easily as wiz did

I don't think it would be JUST because of "Black and Yellow," I know people who know every fucking song Wiz has done.

― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:36 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

obvi at this point we're slicing up some pretty thin hairs here, but i think curren$y has the exact same success in terms of being seen as an 'album artist'

deej isn't right that he's more popular than wiz, but he is right that curren$y is more popular than you guys are giving him credit for

Who's not saying Curren$y is popular tho?

lol there is no slicing of hairs when talking about "black & yellow" -- shit is a major hit

I don't think anyone is saying that.

lol deej you're definition of star is broad as fuck

― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:36 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

maybe. i mean, i certainly think national rap fame qualifies as 'star' but its easy to define star in a way that excludes wiz too. i dont feel like there are many fans out there who know/love wiz but dont know curren$y

lol there is no slicing of hairs when talking about "black & yellow" -- shit is a major hit

― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:38 PM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

thats not what i was slicing hairs about?

i dont think i said hes more popular than wiz either

i mean look - if these dudes are memorizing wiz lyrics surely they have the countless tracks where wiz & curren$y record together & tag-team verses? do they really think hes 'just some guy'?

i concede that, if you just know black n yellow, you may not know currensy

but i think curren$y has the exact same success in terms of being seen as an 'album artist'

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:37 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

this is only mildly true, but wrt this argument, wiz's mixtapes built a fanbase that made it possible to make a hit like "black & yellow" -- curren$y is an actual album artist in that he'll never have a 'hit single'

i dont feel like there are many fans out there who know/love wiz but dont know curren$y

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, December 3, 2010 2:39 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah, but his audience is starting to expand beyond just rap fans whereas currensy's is not.

so their success as 'album artists' is not exact

Sometimes I feel like "album artist" is a euphemism for "can't write a hit."

this is only mildly true, but wrt this argument, wiz's mixtapes built a fanbase that made it possible to make a hit like "black & yellow" -- curren$y is an actual album artist in that he'll never have a 'hit single'

― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:41 PM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

curren$y's mixtapes built that exact same fanbase!! this is what im saying.

xp i agree rev

this argument is what happens when mp3 downloading destroys the billboard chart popularity representations :(

Sometimes I feel like "album artist" is a euphemism for "can't write a hit."

― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:42 PM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no? its for 'fans memorize more songs than the singles' -- wiz is an 'album artist' too, to his fans

this is only mildly true, but wrt this argument, wiz's mixtapes built a fanbase that made it possible to make a hit like "black & yellow" -- curren$y is an actual album artist in that he'll never have a 'hit single'

― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 2:41 PM Bookmark

There's nothing stopping him from having hit singles other than his lack of ambition to do so. Like I said before, he already had a minor hit anyway.

like, as minor a hit as you can literally have

I don't mean in this instance, deej, just sometimes.

like, as minor a hit as you can literally have

― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 3:43 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark

Still more than Curren$y.

this argument is what happens when mp3 downloading destroys the billboard chart popularity representations :(

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, December 3, 2010 2:42 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

"black and yellow" has been doing consistently higher on the sales chart than the airplay chart tho.

southern radio was playing any old shit w/ wayne on it in 06

curren$y's mixtapes built that exact same fanbase!!

i don't see how this is true at all, but okay

anyway i concede that wiz may have finally surpassed currensy but i maintain absolutely that currensy is much more popular than you guys make him out to be & has almost the exact same fanbase, sans the pop fans who jumped on board for black & yellow. i do concede wiz has a higher ceiling of star potential

Still more than Curren$y.

― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:44 PM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark

no i was talking about curren$y -- wiz's hit is legit -- i think dude is gonna be like the minaj of 2011

"black and yellow" has been doing consistently higher on the sales chart than the airplay chart tho.

― The Reverend, Friday, December 3, 2010 4:44 PM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i was talking about lp sales

i don't see how this is true at all, but okay

― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:44 PM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dude half of wiz's tapes were recorded with currensy

wiz's first appearances were probably on currensy tapes -- wiz's original fanbase migrating from currensy's, not the other way around

When did Curren$y have a sort of hit?

ren: i was talking about curren$y.

and "where the cash at" wasn't any less of a hit than "say yeah" was for wiz.

okay i just dropped a line to someone who knows who told me that wiz sold out best buy theater in nyc (about 2100)
so yeah, i'm really wrong about that apparently.
currensy did a recent ny gig and they managed about 500

first popular appearances i should say -- obvi he was rapping on local tapes before that

btw deej did touch on something that we overlooked but definitely has a ton to do w/ this and that's that wiz has sex appeal -- i think he probably has tons more female fans than curren$y has -- he has that star appeal but also a safeness about him that could appeal to a large audience

curren$y is just a dude that raps -- a dude that raps great of course, but still

forks evidence is what i'm talking about

Nipsey Hussle with Curren$y ... Fri, Dec 3 Roseland Theater, Portland ...
Curren$y and Nipsey Hussle ... Wed, Dec 8 El Rey Theatre, Los Angeles ...
Curren$y at Rialto Theatre Fri, Dec 10 Rialto Theatre, Tucson, AZ, US

whats the size on these venues

how many seats does the metro in chicago have

yeah, chicks dig wiz for sure

was that 2100 show after black and yellow hit

chicks dig both ime

i didn't want to bring up my anecdote cuz i don't find anecdotes to be particularly useful in these types of arguments (cuz it brings us into 'my world of young people' stuff) but wiz sold out the biggest venue in my school in like less than a week LAST SEMESTER & when i went to the facebook events page all the comments were "omg!!!" type shit from girls

ill give a pass on the LA show for including nipsey

wiz did a fairly good size sold out show in portland at the beginning of september (before black and yellow took off).

el rey has a capacity of 700