I mean I think what I said in my review is totally fair.
― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link
they are definitely in the same ballpark, but wiz's appeal is broader.
― The Reverend, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link
in what ways would curren$y even begin to approach the word "star"
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:31 PM (58 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
he was on young money & tons & tons of rap fans know who he is? lil wayne put him on at the height of his popularity? hes been recording tracks coast to coast w/ artists from virtually every regional scene?
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link
and both are more popular than devin thd dude, not sure why he was even brought into this
― The Reverend, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link
wiz & him have done joint cds together so theres a massive audience overlap
also he had a minor hit of his own with "where the cash at"
― The Reverend, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't think, right now, curren$y could sell out a 600 sro space in nyc with a 25 cover. maybe with wiz? maybe not. and if he could, it would totally be because of black and yellow i mean i know that's nyc but still.
― old LOKO heads (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean, that's kinda the standards i go by.
lol deej you're definition of star is broad as fuck
forks i'm willing to bet that wiz has already done that
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
your*
I don't think it would be JUST because of "Black and Yellow," I know people who know every fucking song Wiz has done.
― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont know the deal w/ venue sizes but im sure curren$y would sell out the metro in chicago just as easily as wiz did
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:36 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
obvi at this point we're slicing up some pretty thin hairs here, but i think curren$y has the exact same success in terms of being seen as an 'album artist'
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link
deej isn't right that he's more popular than wiz, but he is right that curren$y is more popular than you guys are giving him credit for
― The Reverend, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Who's not saying Curren$y is popular tho?
― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link
lol there is no slicing of hairs when talking about "black & yellow" -- shit is a major hit
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think anyone is saying that.
― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:36 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
maybe. i mean, i certainly think national rap fame qualifies as 'star' but its easy to define star in a way that excludes wiz too. i dont feel like there are many fans out there who know/love wiz but dont know curren$y
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:38 PM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
thats not what i was slicing hairs about?
i dont think i said hes more popular than wiz either
i mean look - if these dudes are memorizing wiz lyrics surely they have the countless tracks where wiz & curren$y record together & tag-team verses? do they really think hes 'just some guy'?
i concede that, if you just know black n yellow, you may not know currensy
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
but i think curren$y has the exact same success in terms of being seen as an 'album artist'
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:37 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
this is only mildly true, but wrt this argument, wiz's mixtapes built a fanbase that made it possible to make a hit like "black & yellow" -- curren$y is an actual album artist in that he'll never have a 'hit single'
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont feel like there are many fans out there who know/love wiz but dont know curren$y
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, December 3, 2010 2:39 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah, but his audience is starting to expand beyond just rap fans whereas currensy's is not.
― The Reverend, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
so their success as 'album artists' is not exact
Sometimes I feel like "album artist" is a euphemism for "can't write a hit."
― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:41 PM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
curren$y's mixtapes built that exact same fanbase!! this is what im saying.
xp i agree rev
this argument is what happens when mp3 downloading destroys the billboard chart popularity representations :(
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link
― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:42 PM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
no? its for 'fans memorize more songs than the singles' -- wiz is an 'album artist' too, to his fans
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 2:41 PM Bookmark
There's nothing stopping him from having hit singles other than his lack of ambition to do so. Like I said before, he already had a minor hit anyway.
― The Reverend, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link
like, as minor a hit as you can literally have
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't mean in this instance, deej, just sometimes.
― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 3:43 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark
Still more than Curren$y.
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, December 3, 2010 2:42 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
"black and yellow" has been doing consistently higher on the sales chart than the airplay chart tho.
― The Reverend, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link
southern radio was playing any old shit w/ wayne on it in 06
curren$y's mixtapes built that exact same fanbase!!
i don't see how this is true at all, but okay
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link
anyway i concede that wiz may have finally surpassed currensy but i maintain absolutely that currensy is much more popular than you guys make him out to be & has almost the exact same fanbase, sans the pop fans who jumped on board for black & yellow. i do concede wiz has a higher ceiling of star potential
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link
― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:44 PM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark
no i was talking about curren$y -- wiz's hit is legit -- i think dude is gonna be like the minaj of 2011
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link
― The Reverend, Friday, December 3, 2010 4:44 PM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i was talking about lp sales
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:44 PM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
dude half of wiz's tapes were recorded with currensy
wiz's first appearances were probably on currensy tapes -- wiz's original fanbase migrating from currensy's, not the other way around
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link
When did Curren$y have a sort of hit?
― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link
ren: i was talking about curren$y.
and "where the cash at" wasn't any less of a hit than "say yeah" was for wiz.
― The Reverend, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link
okay i just dropped a line to someone who knows who told me that wiz sold out best buy theater in nyc (about 2100) so yeah, i'm really wrong about that apparently.currensy did a recent ny gig and they managed about 500
― old LOKO heads (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link
first popular appearances i should say -- obvi he was rapping on local tapes before that
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link
btw deej did touch on something that we overlooked but definitely has a ton to do w/ this and that's that wiz has sex appeal -- i think he probably has tons more female fans than curren$y has -- he has that star appeal but also a safeness about him that could appeal to a large audience
curren$y is just a dude that raps -- a dude that raps great of course, but still
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link
forks evidence is what i'm talking about
Nipsey Hussle with Curren$y ... Fri, Dec 3 Roseland Theater, Portland ...Curren$y and Nipsey Hussle ... Wed, Dec 8 El Rey Theatre, Los Angeles ...Curren$y at Rialto Theatre Fri, Dec 10 Rialto Theatre, Tucson, AZ, US
whats the size on these venues
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link
how many seats does the metro in chicago have
yeah, chicks dig wiz for sure
― The Reverend, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link
was that 2100 show after black and yellow hit
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link
chicks dig both ime
i didn't want to bring up my anecdote cuz i don't find anecdotes to be particularly useful in these types of arguments (cuz it brings us into 'my world of young people' stuff) but wiz sold out the biggest venue in my school in like less than a week LAST SEMESTER & when i went to the facebook events page all the comments were "omg!!!" type shit from girls
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link