on last fm wiz has 464k listeners, whereas currensy has only 286k
― The Reverend, Friday, December 3, 2010 4:19 PM (5 seconds ago) Bookmark
internet bias + black & yellow distorts things. (if wiz is more popular, its entirely on the basis of that single, which isnt why hes selling out colleges)
also curren$y is way more popular than devin
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link
A Redman who could write pop songs.
― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:20 PM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
wtf
Wiz could be fucking Redmanimages i didn't need
― old LOKO heads (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, did anyone give a fuck about his last three albums? (Devin's.) Not really.
― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link
i did.curren$y is more popular than devin where and under what standards exactly? live shows? record sales? industry respect? among weedsmokers in the all important 19-34 demographic? on your blog?
― old LOKO heads (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean it in the traditional sense, that more people listen to him.
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't really think currensy cares about having a hit, which is what is holding him back from becoming any more popular than he already is
xps a) i don't think internet bias means anything when comparing two artists means anything and b) of course having a hit gives wiz an edge. duh. that's my point.
― The Reverend, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah I honestly don't see Curren$y ever having a hit. He's just not that guy.
― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link
fyi devin the ilx bubble artist in this case. he has some mild critical acclaim and older heads know him. but its a decreasing slice of old head rap fans. curren$y is a contemporary rap star w/ a broad fanbase. he has recorded w/ regional underground artists across the country, from j stalin to french montana
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link
i agree that wiz has a higher ceiling -- dont understate sex appeal also
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link
this popularity question is not even a thing -- deej you're just wrong
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link
i just think curren$y is a lot more popular than yall realize
whether or not curren$y put him on is irrelevant as well
okay give us something quantifiable then since you're saying that wiz's hit single & touring is apparently irrelevant to the question
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link
im not wrong that curren$y could easily sell out colleges, or that the entire crowd at the wiz show i saw knew exactly who curren$y was & whent nuts when the dj dropped his tracks.
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link
yeesh i conceded that wiz may have recently surpassed him, but it would be entirely on the basis of that single alone. as i said tho, curren$y is far more popular than u guys think
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link
and ive given you 'quantifiable' reasons why
i don't agree with "mild critical acclaim" or even that curren$y is a star as of yet and it's not like devin hasn't already and isn't continuing to record with a shitton of regional guys but okay
― old LOKO heads (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link
in what ways would curren$y even begin to approach the word "star"
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Does "Say Yeah" count as a minor hit? Reached 20 on Hot Rap Tracks on Billboard and 96 on Pop 100.
― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean I think what I said in my review is totally fair.
they are definitely in the same ballpark, but wiz's appeal is broader.
― The Reverend, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:31 PM (58 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
he was on young money & tons & tons of rap fans know who he is? lil wayne put him on at the height of his popularity? hes been recording tracks coast to coast w/ artists from virtually every regional scene?
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link
and both are more popular than devin thd dude, not sure why he was even brought into this
― The Reverend, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link
wiz & him have done joint cds together so theres a massive audience overlap
also he had a minor hit of his own with "where the cash at"
― The Reverend, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't think, right now, curren$y could sell out a 600 sro space in nyc with a 25 cover. maybe with wiz? maybe not. and if he could, it would totally be because of black and yellow i mean i know that's nyc but still.
― old LOKO heads (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean, that's kinda the standards i go by.
lol deej you're definition of star is broad as fuck
forks i'm willing to bet that wiz has already done that
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
your*
I don't think it would be JUST because of "Black and Yellow," I know people who know every fucking song Wiz has done.
― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont know the deal w/ venue sizes but im sure curren$y would sell out the metro in chicago just as easily as wiz did
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:36 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
obvi at this point we're slicing up some pretty thin hairs here, but i think curren$y has the exact same success in terms of being seen as an 'album artist'
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link
deej isn't right that he's more popular than wiz, but he is right that curren$y is more popular than you guys are giving him credit for
― The Reverend, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Who's not saying Curren$y is popular tho?
― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link
lol there is no slicing of hairs when talking about "black & yellow" -- shit is a major hit
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think anyone is saying that.
― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:36 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
maybe. i mean, i certainly think national rap fame qualifies as 'star' but its easy to define star in a way that excludes wiz too. i dont feel like there are many fans out there who know/love wiz but dont know curren$y
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:38 PM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
thats not what i was slicing hairs about?
i dont think i said hes more popular than wiz either
i mean look - if these dudes are memorizing wiz lyrics surely they have the countless tracks where wiz & curren$y record together & tag-team verses? do they really think hes 'just some guy'?
i concede that, if you just know black n yellow, you may not know currensy
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
but i think curren$y has the exact same success in terms of being seen as an 'album artist'
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:37 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
this is only mildly true, but wrt this argument, wiz's mixtapes built a fanbase that made it possible to make a hit like "black & yellow" -- curren$y is an actual album artist in that he'll never have a 'hit single'
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont feel like there are many fans out there who know/love wiz but dont know curren$y
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, December 3, 2010 2:39 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah, but his audience is starting to expand beyond just rap fans whereas currensy's is not.
― The Reverend, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
so their success as 'album artists' is not exact
Sometimes I feel like "album artist" is a euphemism for "can't write a hit."
― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:41 PM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
curren$y's mixtapes built that exact same fanbase!! this is what im saying.
xp i agree rev
this argument is what happens when mp3 downloading destroys the billboard chart popularity representations :(
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link
― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:42 PM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
no? its for 'fans memorize more songs than the singles' -- wiz is an 'album artist' too, to his fans
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 2:41 PM Bookmark
There's nothing stopping him from having hit singles other than his lack of ambition to do so. Like I said before, he already had a minor hit anyway.
― The Reverend, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link
like, as minor a hit as you can literally have
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't mean in this instance, deej, just sometimes.
― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link