It is known from the smaller polls here (using the poll feature) that the lurkers often have a more "canonical" taste than the posters. So it would be interesting to hear how many lurkers voted here.
― You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link
xpSORRY but you don't belong in the galleria of sadness
― ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link
all the songs on this are better than every john coltrane, neil young, charles mingus, led zeppelin, pj harvey, jethro tull, guided by voices, wu tang clan, king crimson, and joni mitchell song
― kamerad, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link
there's lots of australian stuff in there (ac/dc, the saints, the church, nick cave, the go-betweens etc.) and i'm surprised some of it placed as well as it did.
― charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link
xp KameradYou didn't vote either so you aren't allowed in the Galleria of Sadness as well
― ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link
reposted from ballots thread: JF and seandalai, thanks for compiling (even though I still think polling an entire century was crazy/folly). I'm very interested in the proposed 1950s tracks poll.
― pixel farmer, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Actually I, too, an surprised (surprised, not disappointed ;) ) that there is no James Brown. But I guess he fell in the split vote trap.
― You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Guys are you ready for my list of 9848 songs that I'm SHOCKED no one voted for?
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), 4. joulukuuta 2010 0:06 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
stone cold classics, each one
You seriously don't think "Sway" and "Milord" are classic tunes?
― Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link
there are more than 125 classic tunes, is the problem
― peter in montreal, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean, it's not like I'm saying "OMG no one voted for this underground techno tune I nommed!", I'm wondering why no one voted for two songs that rank among the best-known songs of the 20th century, both of which have been covered hundreds of times.
― Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link
tuomas didn't know you liked the stones! "sway" is classic all the way
― EIEIoOoOO (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Never heard them, so obv not. Heard some Edith and blech. But it's more that I seriously do think there's 9848 songs that I'd put on this list instead of ones that are, just am not suprised no one else here thinks so.
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link
btw the creator has a masterplan still rules peeps should listen to it now
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59c9h_pharoah-sanders-the-creator-has-a-m_music
― EIEIoOoOO (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6B4v1BqMhU
Granny, surely you have heard at least this one?
― Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link
it absolutely rules but come on, it's not like more than 5 of the ppl who vote in these polls would even remember its existence, let alone put it on a ballot
― Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link
i just flicked madly through the 25-1 cos i'm all stressed on the home front etc. very surprised by the top 2, would have liked to see donna pip them both.
my gripe is that, from what i remember screaming jay hawkins aside, where the fuck was the old time rock n roll? or robert johnson?
i've come to think that the vote splitting noms stuff is a red herring. and i go back to post of viceroy's way back when, that people will put stuff on a long list that they think should be in there, but when it comes down to the final pruning they will stick with the stuff they have the most attachment to.
which is all a.ok with me, otherwise this would be a poll of ilx posturing as rock critics which is not what ilx is about, whatever it might try to prove otherwise.
i guess i'm just sad that, having started with rock n roll as a kid in the late 70s, there ain't a single elvis/little richard/jerry lee/chuck etcetc track in the top 125. wtf people :(
and the vote splitting (sorry i'll shut up now) - didn't seem to harm new order, prince, beach boys etc etc.
the canon has moved on down the road, and the 50s are just an oil stain on the tarmac.
― xavi hoarder type (whatever), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link
at work now, Tuomas, so YouTube is blocked for me. What is it?
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link
the 50s weren't really in the canon 20 years ago either
― iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link
tuomas what's your second fav stones song?? you seem like a moonlight mile guy to me
― EIEIoOoOO (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link
"Sway": I just can't imagine anyone living in the Western world for more than 20 years would have managed to miss it hearing it.
― Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link
That was to Granny.
― Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Lots of people might have voted for those. But they are not on ILM.
irl lol @ this geir-to-tuomas zing
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link
I'll try to make a playlist for Galleria of Sadness songs later todayEnglishers can help me and make a Spotify playlist
― ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link
tuomas, that song isn't even particularly omnipresent in its home country, let alone THE ENTIRE WESTERN WORLD
― iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link
and the youtube doesn't even work!
― ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't really know much about the Stones, I just have a emotional attachment to "Sympathy for the Devil", because in the pub where we always hung out when we were younger (which sadly doesn't exist anymore), me and my friend Martta used to always put it on the jukebox, and then proceed to sing the "whoo-ooh!" backing vocals throughout the whole song, to everyone else's irritation.
― Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link
The only Dean I can be certain I've heard is "That's amore" or whatever it's called. I must've missed hearing it on the radio amongst all the Frank Sinatra and Louis Armstrong.
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link
pretty sure I hadn't heard 'sway' my entire life before it was in some car commercial recently
― iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Will check it out when I get home, though. Dad is a huge Dean fan, should prob borrow his cds.
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link
(x-post)
Eh? It the Youtube for me.
Maybe people don't the exact version of "Sway" as sung by Dean Martin, but "Sway" as a composition is very well known. Even Björk has covered it.
― Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Think there was some wtf reaction from re: a song or 2 here you hadn't heard, Tuomas. Can't remember which song(s).
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Okay, so we began some chatter about a 50s tracks/singles poll yesterday and carried it a little bit over into today, and I was thinking...I don't really want to run another one of these until next year (like, May at the earliest). But what about opening a rolling nominations thread now? Just let it roll through the end of May, giving us approximately six months to consume and evaluate as much 50s music as possible, time permitting. Then we end up with a well-rounded list and an informed electorate, and the voting can then begin.
In short, long window for nominations, brief window for voting. No pressure...you've got six months. Sound appealing?
― Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link
I feel like there's a magical version of america in your head where dean martin and bjork music is played everywhere
― iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Selective list of recorded versions
Originals
* 1953 - Pablo Beltrán Y Su Orchestra (in Spanish) * 1954 - Dean Martin, on Capitol Records, catalog number 2818, US 15, UK 6
English versions
"¿Quién será?" and "Sway" have been recorded dozens of times by many artists over the decades. This is merely a select list of popular recordings, not a comprehensive listing.
* 1954 - Eileen Barton, on Coral Records, catalog number 61185, backed with "When Mama Calls" * 1959 - Rosemary Clooney and Perez Prado, from A Touch of Tabasco * 1960 - Bobby Rydell, Capitol Recording Studios, NYC * 1961 - Ben E. King, from Spanish Harlem * 1963 - Cliff Richard, from When In Spain * 1963 - Julie London, from Latin in a Satin Mood * 1998 - Anita Kelsey, from the movie Dark City * 1999 - Shaft, titled "(Mucho Mambo) Sway" * 2003 - Michael Bublé, from his self-titled album Michael Bublé * 2003 - Peter Cincotti, from his self-titled album Peter Cincotti * 2004 - Pussycat Dolls, from the film Shall We Dance? * 2007 - Puppini Sisters,Betcha Bottom Dollar * 2008 - Fady Maalouf, Lebanese-German singer in his album Blessed * 2009 - Haifa Wehbe, a Lebanese pop star * 2010 - Paul Byrom of Celtic Thunder, Irish folk gan roup
Live renditions during song competitions
* 2007 - Melinda Doolittle on American Idol * 2009 - Joe McElderry in UK The X Factor
Language versions
The song has been translated and covered in several languages. Here is a selective listing of language versions
* 1954 - Olavi Virta, titled "Keinu kanssani" (in Finnish) * 1959 - The Peanuts, titled Quién Será (キエンセラ?) (in Japanese) * 1968 - Teresa Teng, titled "盼望" (in Mandarin) * 1973 - Sten & Stanley, titled "Äntligen" (in Swedish) * 1976 - Ajda Pekkan, from "Kim Ne Derse Desin" (in Turkish) * 1990 - Bjork in album Gling-Gló, as "Í dansi með þér" (in Icelandic) * 1999 - Götz Alsmann, titled "Zuckersüß" (in German) * 1999 - Komár László in album Mambó Lackó, as "Mexikói Karnevál" (in Hungarian) * 2000 - Athena - Macera, from "Tam Zamanı Şimdi" (in Turkish) * 2002 - Pedro Fernandez, ¿Quien será? (in Spanish) * 2004 - Arielle Dombasle, titled "Quién Será (Sway)" (in Spanish) * 2005 - Aaron Kwok, titled "飛" ("Sway") (in Cantonese) * 2005 - Nguyễn Hưng in album Dạ Vũ, as "Ai Sẽ Là Em" (in Vietnamese) * 2005 - Walid Soroor, titled "Yar Nazanin" (in Persian) * 2006 - Anjelika Varum, titled "Румба" ("Rumba") (in Russian) * 2007 - Rula Zaki (an Egyptian singer), titled "قلبي دق" ("Albi Dak") (in Arabic) * 2010 - Rula Zaki, in the album "Rula" (in Arabic) * 2010 - Mohsen Namjoo, in the song (دور ایرانو خط بکش) ("Dowr-e Iran-o Khat Bekesh") in Persian).
This should tell you how popular it is.
― Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link
there are 3000 cover versions of 'yesterday' and imagine there are still plenty of people who live in the western world and have never heard it, though we'd need a scientific test or something to find out
― iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link
BRING ON THE FIFTIES ILM
I am ready. Just say no to poll burnout.
― Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link
*and I imagine there xp
231 The Associates - Party Fears Two 899257 The Magnetic Fields - 100,000 Fireflies 844
Nice to see these getting 7 votes each, including a 1st place for the former. I nommed them knowing they weren't Top 100 contenders but felt sure of at least a little beneath-the-radar support.
FWIW, I had "Moon In June" on my ballot until the very last cut. It very nearly had 2 votes!
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Which songs in the list where you unfamiliar with, Tuomas? Find that sort of thing fascinating.
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Thanks Johnny Fever and seandalai! Great poll!
― daavid, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm wondering why no one voted for two songs that rank among the best-known songs of the 20th century, both of which have been covered hundreds of times.
You mean, "Yesterday" and "Tom Dooley"?
― You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
01. 14 ICED BEARS "Come Get Me" (1990) [3,301 points, 30 votes][2 first place votes]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zs8pHG9qFM
― Ian Riese-Moran (rip van wanko), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link
can't wait for the 2001 - 2010 decade poll
I have an early frontrunner for you all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzsFJolrYuI
― Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link
We've already kind of done that, in two pieces...five years apart.
― Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
well we have to do another poll so I can nominate Tea Bag Boyz
― Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Ha! On a slightly different sort of poll I would have definitely given points to that 14 Iced Bears. Along with, say, the Primitives' "Really Stupid".
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes please do DJP just so I can go TOO HIGH, NO TOO LOW AH OK RIGHT THERE THAT'S PERFECT
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link
perfect
― Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Amazing, amazing work Johnny & Sean, thank you so much. Best fun I could possibly've had this week. Thanks a million. Sorry I wasn't able to keep up and pitch in, but I wanted to make sure I heard it all in order. Was worth it.
Fabulous to see a poll that genuinely got better as it got lower too, it was condensed solid gold by the end. No arguments from me whatsoever.
You didn't use my clip for 'Gimme Shelter' though :(
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link
I didn't forget about that, but in the end I thought I should put up the full recognizable track.
― Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link