i wanted to nom some hugh mundell, who is my favourite reggae artist along with the congos, but i feared no one would vote for it. wouldn't have mattered anyway - it's not like dudes were all like "i gotta vote me some minor threat and big black".
― charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm kind of in the same boat as peter up there. By and large, reggae doesn't do much for me outside of a few select tracks. Dub can be interesting in most cases, and old ska has a little more going for it to my ear, but standard reggae just lays flat. I hear "Uptown Top Ranking" and all I can do is shrug.
― Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link
I didn't know 'Don't Fear The Reaper' at all. It's really good. I'd maybe heard 'September Gurls' only a couple of times before too - hadn't really expected to be still learning new stuff at this stage. Off to check me out some 'More Cowbell' now.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Never going to begrudge Big Star, but 'Holocaust' is the most perfectly formed thing they ever did. So so good.
Didn't vote for it, but 'Uptown Top Ranking' is such a joyously fun song - it's a couple of teenagers messing about in their rooms braggin' and bigging each other up.
― emil.y, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link
I didn't know 'Don't Fear The Reaper' at all.
Amazing.
― _Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link
It's just hard for me to imagine this, but that's clearly a generational thing.
― _Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't feel that old (27) and assume everyone I know knows Don't Fear the Reaper.
― skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link
I usually feel like I know everything, but clearly I have some curious blindspots
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link
i like "Don't Fear The Reaper" and all, but it seems like a really unlikely top 25 song, had no idea it would even place
― My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro) (some dude), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't feel that old either and assume everyone who'd post on ilm would know every song in this countdowb tbh
― Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Big Star, but 'Holocaust' is the most perfectly formed thing they ever did. So so good.
At the risk of sounding rude, gag me with a spoon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link
22. PRINCE & THE REVOLUTION "When Doves Cry" (1984) [2,152 points, 23 votes]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt-gcp-ERM0
― Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link
About a fifth of them are new or mostly new to me xp, which is a bit more than I'd thought. I wouldn't've thought very many people would know all 125 though tbh.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i am pleased that i have found some new tunes thru this, was expecting to know them all going in. the bobby womack song is my favorite discovery so far
― ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link
this is my clear favorite of the big classic Prince tracks. best groove, most memorable chorus.
― skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xk5s3_when-doves-cry_music
I know probably 2/3rds or a bit more of the songs on this countdown.
― the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link
This is the first time in my life I've knowingly listened to "Don't Fear the Reaper" too, and I'm 31. I've actually seen the "more cowbell" skit, but I didn't remember this song was in it. Somehow, in my head, I've always thought Blue Öyster Cult is the band that did "El Bimbo", but now I realize that's because "El Bimbo" plays in the Blue Oyster gay bar scenes in the Police Academy movies.
As for "Don't Fear the Reaper", it was pretty good, at least up until the guitar solo. With a title like that I expected heavy metal, but this is closer to Simon & Garfunkel.
― Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Prince is too low
― Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link
"Reaper" is a surprise outlier.
Where did "Uptown Top Ranking" come from? I've never even heard of the song or Althea & Donna. I honestly didn't expect I'd have something sprung on me like that in the top 25.
"When Doves Cry" is the only Prince song I voted for. It's just sui generis, and all these years later it still sounds so 'outside'. What a jam.
― a confident, off-duty spy (staggerlee), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link
So that's it for Prince then? I assume Purple Rain wasn't nominated?
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link
I have not been familiar with every track on this list.
― _Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Oftentimes I think Prince's best single was "If I Was Your Girlfriend", "Mountains" or "Alphabet St"
― Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Purple Rain was nominated.
― seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Was nominated Matt I think
― babel on (pandemic), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link
it's probably #1
― the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't see how that would do better than "When Doves Cry," but what do I know, I'm already surprised by three of the tracks that have placed in the top 25.
― _Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link
"When Doves Cry", it's a really good tune, but IMO it should've switched places with "Kiss". Both as a composition and as a peace of genius pop minimalism "Kiss" is simply better. (And the album version of "Doves" actually sacrifices that minimalism to include a gratuitous keyboard and a gratuitous guitar solo.)
― Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link
agreeing with Tuomas here...
― the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Wow at that Prince clip. When Doves Cry has never been one of my favourite Prince songs but after watching that it should have been in my top ten, incredible performance and those moves are pretty awesome too.
― Kitchen Person, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link
'When Doves Cry' is probably the only Prince song I'd rep for - I often like the idea of Prince more than the reality, but WDC always works for me.
(In reference to kornrulez upthread, what does 'gag me with a spoon' actually mean?)
― emil.y, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link
itt Tuomas shows that he doesn't understand Prince
― Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Cockahoop to see Uptown Top Ranking feature - was really not sure how the present ILX gestalt viewed it.
― calumerio, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Kiss>>>When Doves Cry for me.
― A brownish area with points (chap), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
like, the entire POINT of "When Doves Cry" is the expansion into the instrumental coda; this is why the single version always feels neutered/interrupted
(no comment re: comparing it to "Kiss", which is a badass song that I like better, but by a fraction of a degree, and as I said before there are a bunch of other Prince singles I'd rate higher than both)
― Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
not to begrudge althea and donna or ? and the mysterians - great songs from each no doubt - but i wonder if their high, somewhat surprise placements have anything to do with their placement on the master list, alphabetically.
― Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link
was not familiar with shh/peaceful, dr. who, 21st century schizoid man, aguas de março, israelites, genius of love, good times, uptown top ranking
i'd at least heard of all the artists except for althea & donna
― mookieproof, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Trying to think what else pre-Beatles might make the list... Strange Fruit, Georgia On My Mind, Summertime maybe?
Also my guess is that there'll only be one solitary Beatles track left to place, and that'll be She Love You.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link
I just liked the idea they should have switched places on the poll.
― the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link
21. MICHAEL JACKSON "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough" (1979) [2,181 points, 21 votes]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yURRmWtbTbo
― Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link
But "Kiss" has a (sort of a) guitar solo too, and it feels much more integrated to the song than the over-the-top solos on "Doves", a song that's (deservedly) praised for it's icy synth minimalism. I dunno, maybe Prince intended the solos to disrupt the song, but for me it doesn't work.
― Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link
(x-post)
Whoa, that should've been in the top 10. "Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough" is flawless no matter how you look at it.
― Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link
I didn't vote for that MJ song, but am happy to see it.
― _Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link
the top 20 is entirely MJ fyi
― ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
That was the only MJ song I voted for. Would've voted for "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" too (another flawless song IMO) if it had been nommed.
― Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Hah I wonder what the percentage of tracks on this countdown have been produced by either Quincey Jones or Trevor Horn.
This song is so great... I had it on my shortlist but eventually cut my MJ tracks... rightfully predicting others would make up for my lack of votes to the King of Pop.
― the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link
OTM. It's one of the last times in Jacko's career that you hear sheer unbridled joy in his vocals.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link
the whole first half of Off The Wall is still jawdropping.
― prolego, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link
number of michael jackson songs i voted for: 0
number of michael jackson songs i considered voting for: 0
i know it's futile, but please no more michael jackson.
― charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link
you are a soulless husk of a human being and I have nothing but pity in my heart for you
― Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link