Given that pretty much no one outside Chicago had heard any juke a year ago, does it really matter whether it's run of the mill or not?
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 09:59 (thirteen years ago) link
In some ways, John Roberts’ Glass Eights stands out because of the lack of good contemporary house and techno albums around – yes, it’s one of the genre’s best LPs of the year, but where’s the competition?
This seems like a weird thing to write in a Fact list that's full of house and techno albums.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Vibe
10. Jazmine Sullivan - Love Me Back9. Nicki Minaj - Pink Friday8. Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty7. The Roots - How I Got Over6. T.I. - No Mercy5. Janelle Monáe - The ArchAndroid4. Eminem - Recovery3. Drake - Thank Me Later2. Rick Ross - Teflon Don1. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
― Mitchell Stirling, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:39 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^ Corny indie fucks.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link
lol i actively hate the entire top 6 of the vibe list
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:51 (thirteen years ago) link
in some cases what i hate is the sheer averageness
6. T.I. - No Mercy
lol, gotta love label politics still entering the "criticism" of a magazine that no one cares about & has only been up and running for like 8 months after it went bankrupt
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:54 (thirteen years ago) link
that album is really unbelievably dreadful
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:55 (thirteen years ago) link
I haven't heard the TI, didn't even know it existed. What's the deal with it?
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:55 (thirteen years ago) link
i really liked all the promo singles from the king uncaged campaign - then he got arrested again and it was retitled no mercy, all those singles were scrapped and i assume the entire project was cobbled together from b.o.b leftovers ;_;
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:57 (thirteen years ago) link
it's pretty much all the worst parts of 'paper trail' as a whole album
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:57 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean, i do recommend d/lding "ya hear me", "i'm back", "yeah ya know" and "got your back" though
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link
and "pledge allegiance to the swag", and "dying in your arms" with jazmine sullivan. you could make a decent mini-album out of all the cuts that didn't make the actual album
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:59 (thirteen years ago) link
leaden & unexciting beats that barely sound like rap music, really unappealing attempts at contemporary pop music
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:59 (thirteen years ago) link
"meditative" rapping
Before you come barking at me I mean the albums that few if any other lists have mentioned and which sound awful from what I've heard so far: DYLAN ETTINGER, DJ RASHAD, FRANK (JUST FRANK), DJ ROC, SOLAR BEARS, AUTRE NE VEUT.
The Dylan Ettinger and Autre Ne Veut albums have some excellent tracks, though I'm not sure they hold together as albums that well.
I haven't heard many standout albums this year tbh; I know roughly what my top 5 are, after that it's semi-random picking of albums I've enjoyed listening to a couple of times.
― seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 11:00 (thirteen years ago) link
i never listened to 'fuck a mixtape' but it's almost like that was a pre-release peace offering for this album barely containing rap music
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:01 (thirteen years ago) link
two of like the only three actual rap songs prominently feature pharrell & drake, so they suck by default
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:02 (thirteen years ago) link
What's Solar Bears' vibe? my girlfriend's well into them so i could ask her i guess but i'd rather get the ILM view.
― Darren Huckerby (Dwight Yorke), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Kind of hazy Boards of Canada-ish stuff on Planet Mu, mixed with maybe a little post-rock. I know that sounds like a really boring thing, but I did actually enjoy the EP that preceded the album cos those elements were combined in surprising ways. The album felt a bit too wishy-washy for me, but I did only hear it once.
― Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:39 (thirteen years ago) link
"Amazing" on No Mercy might be as terrible as any given track by Salem.
Is the Ettinger album the one that sounds like Sonic Youth's Made in USA sdtk played through a Ford Pinto stock system?
― Andy K, Friday, 3 December 2010 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link
No, that's Rangers' Space Truckin'.
SUBURBAN TOURS
Must wake up.
― Andy K, Friday, 3 December 2010 11:49 (thirteen years ago) link
― Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:39 (22 minutes ago) Bookmark
Cool, totally feared the worst based on their name.
― Darren Huckerby (Dwight Yorke), Friday, 3 December 2010 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Andy K, is that Rangers album good? Not sure what to infer from your description.
― seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:17 (thirteen years ago) link
otm alas
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 December 2010 12:18 (thirteen years ago) link
The Solar Bears album is excellent, nice variety of sounds on it.
― Number None, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:08 (thirteen years ago) link
The FACT top ten isn't very good though, Drake...really? And that Darkstar album was just a bore.
― Number None, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Crushingly disappointed by the Darkstar album. On the basis of Aidy's Girl I was expecting something great but it's so bland and insipid bar a couple of tracks.
― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link
have to agree - when i first heard it i was massively hungover and it pretty much hit the spot, and i assumed it'd become one of my favourites of the year. when i went back to it, it was just...mimsy, and weak.
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link
the drake album IS even worse than the kanye album, tho, that's right
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Can't argue with the Oneohtrix, Emeralds and Actress albums. Forest Swords hasn't grown on me all that much. Love a few of the tracks on the Darkstar, but yeah, it's a bit *meh* overall.
― Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah the Darkstar album is BORING, a lot of the prose I read about it seemed to centre on them having moved beyond dubstep but I'd never imagined that 'fifth rate Junior Boys' was what lay on the other side. It's like they ran out of ideas after Aidy's Girl.
I've never heard of, let alone heard, that Forest Swords album at #1. Any good?
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Hmm. Forest Swords is definitely the best of the OESB batch that I've heard and I think I pencilled it in as my #5 for the year. It doesn't scream "year-defining album" for me though.
Agree that the Darkstar album is lame, really dislike Salem too. OPN and Emeralds albums are decent but somehow they didn't click for me.
― seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Anyone heard the Altered Natives? Sounds intriguing but heard little discussion about it.
― sam500, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:38 (thirteen years ago) link
the altered natives album is vg. more top 30 of the year than top 10 for me, but it's def strong and worth checking out. love the more acidy moments like "rage of aquarius".
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:50 (thirteen years ago) link
I'll be listening to the 14 or so albums of the FACT top 20 I haven't heard yet, will report back this weekend.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Listening to the Solar Bears album at the mo. Kind of warmed over cosmic/ balearic record, perfectly pleasant, nothing amazing though.
The DJ ROC record, on the other hand, is fantastic. My first thought was DJ Assault, slowed down, which probably shows how little I know about this stuff (disclosure: I am British)
― Neil S, Friday, 3 December 2010 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link
nah that makes total sense tbh. if you like it, i urge you soooo much to check out dj nate's da trak genious.
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:10 (thirteen years ago) link
cheers, will look that one up- and I see it's on Spotify...
― Neil S, Friday, 3 December 2010 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link
my favs on it are "poetry", "call me when you're sober" and "hatas our motivation"...there's a thread on it around here somewhere too
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:20 (thirteen years ago) link
looooool @ Drake at #7 on FACT list, fuck outta here
will rep for oneohtrix, emeralds, darkstar (album's not as bad as yall are making it out to be)
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link
re: altered natives, i also love his last.fm bio: http://www.last.fm/music/Altered+Natives
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link
never heard of forest swords til now, but the song FACT included is waaaaaayy up my alley -- A+
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link
That's probably the best song on the album, but the others are good too.
― seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Really like the first of this year's Altered Natives albums (Tenement Yard Vol 1); haven't heard the second one (Serial Vendetta) yet. There's a marked stylistic between the two, right?
― mike t-diva, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link
"marked stylistic difference", bah...
― mike t-diva, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link
haha i really like the autre ne veut disc.
also: the darkstar was very disappointing. p4k listed it as "grime/dubstep album of the year," which was sort of bewildering.
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 3 December 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link
the absence and/or relative low-placing of vampire weekend on a lot of these lists is making me think they might be better than i think they are.
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Kind of surprised by the almost total absence of Hot Chip as well, even on British lists.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link