paste magazine meeting room:
"man fuck this year end list shit, i dont wanna put more than like 20 minutes into this"
"hmmmm okay. how about we just write down lots of mid-tier indie bands and stuff that indie ppl like?"
"gotcha. how will we decide what gets on the list?"
"how about, anything that got over 7.0 on pfork and was written about on lots of indie blogs?"
"okay! what's #1 gonna be, that is an important choice"
"lcd soundsystem duh. he pleases the indie kids and the dance/electronic kids at the same time"
"sounds good. how do we order the other stuff?"
"are you fuckin kidding me, no one cares about the order after #1"
"k. lets draw straws or something"
(.......15 minutes pass.......)
IN TODAY'S ISSUE: PASTE MAGAZINE 2010 YEAR END BEST ALBUMS LIST
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 3 December 2010 03:47 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't see what's so mindblowing about Fact's list. Sure it's got some records you wont see in other lists but have you guys listened to the records theyre pimping? Bunch of boring, run-of-the-mill albums with terrible production.
Different =/= interesting.
― Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 08:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Before you come barking at me I mean the albums that few if any other lists have mentioned and which sound awful from what I've heard so far: DYLAN ETTINGER, DJ RASHAD, FRANK (JUST FRANK), DJ ROC, SOLAR BEARS, AUTRE NE VEUT.
― Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 08:54 (thirteen years ago) link
the rashad and roc records are great though when it comes to juke, dj nate >>>> all
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 08:55 (thirteen years ago) link
The Dylan Ettinger sounded fine to me when I was fooling around in the snow yesterday. Wasn't into the Solar Bears full-length so much though.
― Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 08:59 (thirteen years ago) link
the dj roc record seemed interesting but annoyed me intensely with the vocal rap loops. The Rashad song they've got as a sample in there is awful, can't say I've heard the rest of the record but the amateurish keyboard drums on that song drove me insane, is the guy from Salem guesting on that one?
― Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 09:04 (thirteen years ago) link
ppl are perfectly entitled to hate Rashad (and juke in general) but keen to hear what you've been listening to that makes it "run of the mill"
― smoking on his cigarette / listening to a Carcass set (DJ Mencap), Friday, 3 December 2010 09:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Wasn't specifically pointing at Rashad but anyway; I'm not familiar with the 'juke/footwork' scene so I don't really know how 'unique' this sort of music might really be but I feel like I've been listening to the same overused bass and drums patches for too long in the same unimaginative styles that it starts to feel old to me.
― Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 09:46 (thirteen years ago) link
ppl are keen to hear what you've been listening to that doesn't make it 'run of the mill'
― Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 09:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Given that pretty much no one outside Chicago had heard any juke a year ago, does it really matter whether it's run of the mill or not?
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 09:59 (thirteen years ago) link
In some ways, John Roberts’ Glass Eights stands out because of the lack of good contemporary house and techno albums around – yes, it’s one of the genre’s best LPs of the year, but where’s the competition?
This seems like a weird thing to write in a Fact list that's full of house and techno albums.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Vibe
10. Jazmine Sullivan - Love Me Back9. Nicki Minaj - Pink Friday8. Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty7. The Roots - How I Got Over6. T.I. - No Mercy5. Janelle Monáe - The ArchAndroid4. Eminem - Recovery3. Drake - Thank Me Later2. Rick Ross - Teflon Don1. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
― Mitchell Stirling, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:39 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^ Corny indie fucks.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link
lol i actively hate the entire top 6 of the vibe list
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:51 (thirteen years ago) link
in some cases what i hate is the sheer averageness
6. T.I. - No Mercy
lol, gotta love label politics still entering the "criticism" of a magazine that no one cares about & has only been up and running for like 8 months after it went bankrupt
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:54 (thirteen years ago) link
that album is really unbelievably dreadful
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:55 (thirteen years ago) link
I haven't heard the TI, didn't even know it existed. What's the deal with it?
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:55 (thirteen years ago) link
i really liked all the promo singles from the king uncaged campaign - then he got arrested again and it was retitled no mercy, all those singles were scrapped and i assume the entire project was cobbled together from b.o.b leftovers ;_;
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:57 (thirteen years ago) link
it's pretty much all the worst parts of 'paper trail' as a whole album
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:57 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean, i do recommend d/lding "ya hear me", "i'm back", "yeah ya know" and "got your back" though
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link
and "pledge allegiance to the swag", and "dying in your arms" with jazmine sullivan. you could make a decent mini-album out of all the cuts that didn't make the actual album
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:59 (thirteen years ago) link
leaden & unexciting beats that barely sound like rap music, really unappealing attempts at contemporary pop music
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:59 (thirteen years ago) link
"meditative" rapping
The Dylan Ettinger and Autre Ne Veut albums have some excellent tracks, though I'm not sure they hold together as albums that well.
I haven't heard many standout albums this year tbh; I know roughly what my top 5 are, after that it's semi-random picking of albums I've enjoyed listening to a couple of times.
― seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 11:00 (thirteen years ago) link
i never listened to 'fuck a mixtape' but it's almost like that was a pre-release peace offering for this album barely containing rap music
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:01 (thirteen years ago) link
two of like the only three actual rap songs prominently feature pharrell & drake, so they suck by default
― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:02 (thirteen years ago) link
What's Solar Bears' vibe? my girlfriend's well into them so i could ask her i guess but i'd rather get the ILM view.
― Darren Huckerby (Dwight Yorke), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Kind of hazy Boards of Canada-ish stuff on Planet Mu, mixed with maybe a little post-rock. I know that sounds like a really boring thing, but I did actually enjoy the EP that preceded the album cos those elements were combined in surprising ways. The album felt a bit too wishy-washy for me, but I did only hear it once.
― Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:39 (thirteen years ago) link
"Amazing" on No Mercy might be as terrible as any given track by Salem.
Is the Ettinger album the one that sounds like Sonic Youth's Made in USA sdtk played through a Ford Pinto stock system?
― Andy K, Friday, 3 December 2010 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link
No, that's Rangers' Space Truckin'.
SUBURBAN TOURS
Must wake up.
― Andy K, Friday, 3 December 2010 11:49 (thirteen years ago) link
― Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:39 (22 minutes ago) Bookmark
Cool, totally feared the worst based on their name.
― Darren Huckerby (Dwight Yorke), Friday, 3 December 2010 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Andy K, is that Rangers album good? Not sure what to infer from your description.
― seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:17 (thirteen years ago) link
otm alas
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 December 2010 12:18 (thirteen years ago) link
The Solar Bears album is excellent, nice variety of sounds on it.
― Number None, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:08 (thirteen years ago) link
The FACT top ten isn't very good though, Drake...really? And that Darkstar album was just a bore.
― Number None, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Crushingly disappointed by the Darkstar album. On the basis of Aidy's Girl I was expecting something great but it's so bland and insipid bar a couple of tracks.
― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link
have to agree - when i first heard it i was massively hungover and it pretty much hit the spot, and i assumed it'd become one of my favourites of the year. when i went back to it, it was just...mimsy, and weak.
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link
the drake album IS even worse than the kanye album, tho, that's right
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Can't argue with the Oneohtrix, Emeralds and Actress albums. Forest Swords hasn't grown on me all that much. Love a few of the tracks on the Darkstar, but yeah, it's a bit *meh* overall.
― Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah the Darkstar album is BORING, a lot of the prose I read about it seemed to centre on them having moved beyond dubstep but I'd never imagined that 'fifth rate Junior Boys' was what lay on the other side. It's like they ran out of ideas after Aidy's Girl.
I've never heard of, let alone heard, that Forest Swords album at #1. Any good?
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Hmm. Forest Swords is definitely the best of the OESB batch that I've heard and I think I pencilled it in as my #5 for the year. It doesn't scream "year-defining album" for me though.
Agree that the Darkstar album is lame, really dislike Salem too. OPN and Emeralds albums are decent but somehow they didn't click for me.
― seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Anyone heard the Altered Natives? Sounds intriguing but heard little discussion about it.
― sam500, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:38 (thirteen years ago) link
the altered natives album is vg. more top 30 of the year than top 10 for me, but it's def strong and worth checking out. love the more acidy moments like "rage of aquarius".
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:50 (thirteen years ago) link
I'll be listening to the 14 or so albums of the FACT top 20 I haven't heard yet, will report back this weekend.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Listening to the Solar Bears album at the mo. Kind of warmed over cosmic/ balearic record, perfectly pleasant, nothing amazing though.
The DJ ROC record, on the other hand, is fantastic. My first thought was DJ Assault, slowed down, which probably shows how little I know about this stuff (disclosure: I am British)
― Neil S, Friday, 3 December 2010 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link
nah that makes total sense tbh. if you like it, i urge you soooo much to check out dj nate's da trak genious.
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:10 (thirteen years ago) link
cheers, will look that one up- and I see it's on Spotify...
― Neil S, Friday, 3 December 2010 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link
my favs on it are "poetry", "call me when you're sober" and "hatas our motivation"...there's a thread on it around here somewhere too
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:20 (thirteen years ago) link