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lol "You don't know me!"

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link

emo episode :/

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 3 December 2010 01:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I liked it.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 01:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I notice they've been underlining Abed's Asperger's more and more over the past few episodes.

R Baez, Friday, 3 December 2010 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link

The Lifetime of episodes.

Kerm, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:02 (thirteen years ago) link

That was really good! Troy realizing adults are not smarter ;_;

Lol @ Abed & the Farscape conversation. That happened to me at bar once with a dude who liked Bruce Springsteen. At the end of the night he asked my friend for my number. I spazzed out when she told me and she was all "Well why did you talk to him all night?"
Me: "(Shrug) I just thought he liked Bruce Springsteen!"

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Friday, 3 December 2010 05:31 (thirteen years ago) link

i dig the characters so much that i'm totally cool with the emo elements.

also Troy's "Abed, nobody likes a tattle tale" was lol.

Gukbe, Friday, 3 December 2010 05:32 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost - that has been most of my experiences with extended chats in bars tbh.

Gukbe, Friday, 3 December 2010 05:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Lol.

And yeah otm, they're at the point where they can do anything and I'll go along.

Seeing Joel McHale next Saturday, pretty excited imo (<3 btw)

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Friday, 3 December 2010 05:38 (thirteen years ago) link

For two milliseconds I was scared Troy and Annie were going to kiss in her hallway, so I'm glad they didn't. (not that kisses on this show have led to anything by the time of the next episode)

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 05:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Chevy messing around in the birthday cake was pretty funny, btw.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 05:40 (thirteen years ago) link

not sure how i feel about this one -- i laughed a lot, funny joeks, etc, but the whole "shirley used to be a drunk" thing felt like too big a revelation to be left hanging like that. i'm sure it'll get addressed again but idk. it's nice that they'd try to humanize her after how self-righteous she's been, but this was a pretty big and sudden drop.

literally the worst thing that ever happened on this planet (reddening), Friday, 3 December 2010 05:54 (thirteen years ago) link

that episode has the on-screen vers of:

in my experience calling a girl annoying is guy for "im gonna try and fuck that chick". its an instant break up in my book.

-- sunny successor, Wednesday, March 5, 2008 1:47 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

JIMMY MOD THE SACK MASTER (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 3 December 2010 06:00 (thirteen years ago) link

"I was raised on a trout farm!"

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Friday, 3 December 2010 07:04 (thirteen years ago) link

The Farscape references were hilarious, and I do agree w/Abed's theories about wormholes.

THX THO... (Nicole), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:24 (thirteen years ago) link

they're really going all out in making pierce as pathetic as possible, to the point where it's almost not funny - no one really likes him or wants him around

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link

emphasis on "almost"

+ lol at imagining Chevy Chase sitting in a wheelchair trying to say lines while Community crew members remote-control spin him around and slam into things

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link

this is pure conjecture but chase is known to be a total dick IRL and I wonder if the writers/show producers are taking revenge on him with what they're doing to pierce

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I remember Joel McHale was on twitter talking about how cool Steve Martin was when he met him, so Joel and Dan Harmon had this joke about how they picked the wrong amigo.

THX THO... (Nicole), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost yeah definitely, it's hilarious to picture — all calling in favors from big-name hollywood types with longstanding grudges against him

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link

"22 minutes? yeah, sure, we can do that for you. but I'm gonna need a lock of Chase's hair, and I plan to keep the clay model of him when we're done shooting..."

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^^ jokes I gave up on and posted as-is because I couldn't quite get them to work

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link

doodely doo.

The pictures of Shirley were priceless.

I've got a bush like a 50 year old Serbian (chrisv2010), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link

i know i am the sucker we all hate for wanting things to go a bit friends but i was so disappointed nothing came of annie and troy at the door. i think that would be a hilarious storyline imo.

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link

supposedly starburns is in charge of the stop motion episode as he used to do moral orel for adult swim..

strongly recommend. unless you're a bitch (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

i wonder what misfit toy he will be

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

The little tease after last night's epiode made me so excited. I briefly felt like a kid again, anticipating the annual showing of Rudolph. I <3 this show so much and am going to be heartbroken when it gets cancelled.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

they already discarded the annie/troy thing nicely i thought

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Saturday, 4 December 2010 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link

they're really going all out in making pierce as pathetic as possible, to the point where it's almost not funny - no one really likes him or wants him around

― congratulations (n/a), Friday, December 3, 2010 8:48 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark

i agree with this, i find i don't really enjoy watching his character very much

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Saturday, 4 December 2010 03:44 (thirteen years ago) link

hard to root for annie/troy when annie/jeff have so much chemistry omg i'm a shipper

Mordy, Saturday, 4 December 2010 04:06 (thirteen years ago) link

re: pierce; was wondering if chevy had injured himself again or something, thus his character being placed in the wheelchair.

Babylon and zing (stevie), Saturday, 4 December 2010 10:45 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah it's not so much that he's been less likable than before, he's just not been in it. no stories, basically no lines. pretty sure they knew he was an ass before they hired him though. i figure he's pretty much like this all the time irl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dKKcJdKorA

anyway, latest episode was great with the guy throwing his drink in abed's face and all.

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 4 December 2010 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link

funny guy

mo loko (cozen), Saturday, 4 December 2010 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link

i was so disappointed nothing came of annie and troy at the door.

I actually thought it was great that they seemed to build up to it and then not go there at all, giving us Jeff's and Britta's sloppy drunken makeout instead.

Btw, Abed was never actually diagnosed with Asperger's, right?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 4 December 2010 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link

neither was Sheldon Cooper

some dude, Saturday, 4 December 2010 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha. I mean, Sheldon's pretty genuinely disconnected and baffled by social interactions whereas Abed is mostly just too rational and self-possessed to care about some things. Sheldon actually had no concept that grad students were throwing themselves at him. Abed realized the guy was hitting on him; He just enjoyed talking about Farscape.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 4 December 2010 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I apologize for that capital "h" btw. The episode from s1 where everyone was trying to 'Can't Buy Me Love' Abed is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. It showed more about the rest of the group's hangups than than it showed that Abed has any disorder. That said, there are episodes (e.g. the 'mean girls' episode) when I start to wonder if the show's writers are all that clear on the distinction themselves.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 5 December 2010 04:10 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i was mostly kidding. i think Abed has a kind of refreshing amount of perspective compared to the average sitcom's one "weirdo" character whose behavior usually hinges on them being too dumb and/or un-self-aware to realize when they're acting strange -- and even when he does go really far out there either Jeff punctures it or Troy goes along with it to hilarious results.

some dude, Sunday, 5 December 2010 04:30 (thirteen years ago) link

he's just a student of human character with a buttload of self-esteem.

j., Sunday, 5 December 2010 04:36 (thirteen years ago) link

with all that self-esteem you mention you would think he would have a girlfriend :/

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Sunday, 5 December 2010 06:40 (thirteen years ago) link

j. OTM.

Abed has had girlfriends, as the s1 episode I mentioned showed. Many women find him attractive. Besides, having high self-esteem can mean that you have less of a need to be in a relationship for the sake of it. He seems pretty content doing his thing.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 5 December 2010 06:47 (thirteen years ago) link

he's had a few, including dennis from it's always sunny in philadelphia's real life ridiculously hot wife. they probably overplay (esp in the first season) the 'this guy is actually amazing at everything' abed as much as they do dorky, slightly aspie abed (though decidedly not aspie right? abed's got way to strong a sense of humor and he's frequently insightful about social mores around him).

balls, Sunday, 5 December 2010 07:12 (thirteen years ago) link

the having of a romantic partner is probably always going to be off the table on this show anyway, since it's organized around plots about the group's stability and cohesiveness, which are threatened by a) outsiders trying to get in, b) insiders becoming attracted to outsiders, and c) complications in internal relationships that lead to imbalances or departures.

(compare to a lot of 'buffy' plots)

a big part of abed's character is related to his attraction to the world of imagination. a big part of the show involves the comedy of people who aren't yet fully formed (educated / grownup) seeking out individual identities within a community of equals (itself always set inside larger and larger groups that bump into each other and cause people to momentarily falter in how well-formed they've managed to become so far)—especially via the medium of assuming roles and performing them, and imagining/investigating roles that they could assume. so abed's character is special because he's most connected to the most general conditions the whole show takes place under and investigates. part of its conceit is that people primarily imagine what kinds of people they could be or how they could live their lives in terms of made-up stories and characters that they take, nowadays, from tv and movies. abed recognizes that and makes it more extreme, partly because he sees those stories as more understandable and attractive than the disappointing world around him, and partly because he sees the stories as a way of relating to others on a more idealized terrain that lets them repair the defects of their ordinary lives.

in certain ways that makes abed very socratic/platonic. he's got one foot outside of reality (i.e. the everyday world out of touch with imagination), which makes him seem stunned and bewildered by it in comparison to other people, even though his immersion in the world of imagination gives him insight into everyday life. he's self-possessed and controlled, apparently without the kind of neediness for social and romantic relationships that other people have, even though he still appreciates them. his primary relationship (with troy, who is the 'learner' in the relationship to abed's 'teacher') is homoerotic but based on a shared love of imagination rather than on any worldly goods (sex, pleasure, wealth, fame, status). and his love of imagination is in the service of improved human community in which people can be their best selves, even though it is occasionally at risk of becoming detached from reality, mainly because its exuberance and intoxication with the imagination (e.g. abed's vampire self, his god-movie).

pretense is closely related to playing a role and to playing make-believe, which is why there are characters that are more pathetically funny because they're based on attempts to make themselves out as something they're not, even though no one else accepts it—like chang or pierce. or, like in the dean's case, their primary social identities are based on their role of constantly trying to coax pretensions about their shared social life into being fully convincing and participated in by everyone involved even though people are generally cynical, apathetic, and uninvolved, which is why the dean is like a) a kindergarden teacher and b) saddled with every administrative-leftist/political-correctness-joke trope there is.

j., Sunday, 5 December 2010 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link

'mainly because of its exuberance', i meant.

the pathetic characters also have ways of forcing / enticing people into putting up with their pretenses anyway, like chang's authority as a teacher, pierce's money, or the dean's administrative power. now that chang doesn't have that authority he's more pathetic but also more hilariously abusive.

j., Sunday, 5 December 2010 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link

holy shit dude

It's Long Like Donkey Dong (some dude), Sunday, 5 December 2010 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't even...

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Sunday, 5 December 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

j. out of curiosity are you writing your thesis on 'Community' by chance? :)

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Sunday, 5 December 2010 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link

ok but troy and annie go against that a bit, no? they are p much willow and oz if you go back to the buffy thing, not a relationship born out of all of that but instead actually liking each other and mutually being able to help each other connect, grow etc. (Willow and Tara being the only other relationship in the show not coming out of dire circumstances?)

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 5 December 2010 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

holy shit dude

― It's Long Like Donkey Dong (some dude), Sunday, December 5, 2010 10:04 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Sunday, 5 December 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

just spillover from the life of the mind yo

j., Sunday, 5 December 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link


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