ILM POLLS THE 20TH CENTURY'S BEST TRACKS ››› YOUR RESULTS THREAD ‹‹‹

Above all else however - thank you thank you thank you for giving me the chance to hear John Coltrane 'My Favorite Things'. Incredible!

Other than Wire, Eno and possibly Autobahn I don't know where this coldness and distance is being manifested. Kate Bush and Queen/Bowie for example are supremely emotionally engaged records.

GIL SCOTT-HERON "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised"

surprised how w/e this was, it's a totally rote litany of 60s/70s black militarism shtick of its time

wouldn't give it props for ~influence~ alone

14. Just like the girl in Cyprus Avenue

123. MOTÖRHEAD "Ace of Spades"
117. BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN "Born to Run"
99. (TIE) THE JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)"
98. THE VELVET UNDERGROUND "Heroin"
96. BOB DYLAN "Tangled Up in Blue"
94. (TIE) NIRVANA "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
93. CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL "Fortunate Son"
92. THE VINCE GUARALDI TRIO "Linus and Lucy"
91. TOOTS & THE MAYTALS "Pressure Drop"
88. WIRE "Outdoor Miner"
81. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Soon"
79. (TIE) LED ZEPPELIN "When the Levee Breaks"
52. CHEAP TRICK "Surrender"
51. DOLLY PARTON "Jolene"

I'm wondering what the poll would look like if we cut out all multiple-entry bands except their top result, and then shifted up the next lot of results into the top 125.

nakhchivan, what about the FLUTE?

Joy Division and New Order are pretty cold, Bowie can be, and Kraftwerk doesn't have a warm cell in their collective bodies. xps

hey kind poll-runners could you send me an ilx mail with my ballot when you get time? I didn't save it first.

Autobahn yes, but Computer Love is heartbreakingly warm, agree Bowie/NO/JD can be but not on the entries here.

xp to sleeve: sent

Why do all you Europeans hate warmth? Is it because you're jealous of America's freedom?

nakhchivan, what about the FLUTE?

― emil.y, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:15 (2 minutes ago)

rite, i listened to a different version

still, not all that but i can see why ppl voted for it

Hey, I'm European! And I Love frredom!

freedom

aren't u a socialist?

Johnny, you're not complaining about coldness here are you?

imo "Folsom Prison Blues" is probz the greatest track to ever come out of the heyday of Sun Studios. A line like "I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die" would get bleeped on radio/Mtv these days.

― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever)

That's a different type of coldness, there's plenty of emotion in Johnny Cash.

hey everyone

we don't need a running tally of what you voted for -- make a separate thread for ballot posting or something

that's ~cold~

I'm looking forward to a warm top ten filled with Orchestral Maneuvers in the Dark, Magazine and the greatest song of the last century, Blue Monday

Wait. So Joy Division/New Order don't do emotion??

Threads for ballot posting are to see the full spectrum of your votes and what you wish had made it. Posting a running count is part of the discussion of the actual poll - what you're repping for the hardest. Otherwise it'd just be full of bitching and nothing else.

xposts to J0rdan

Things what I voted for which have made it:

120. HENRY MANCINI & JOHNNY MERCER "Moon River" (1961) [1,165 points, 9 votes]
118. LINK WRAY & HIS RAY MEN "Rumble" (1958) [1,170 points, 12 votes]
117. BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN "Born to Run" (1975) [1,175 points, 10 votes]
103. THE KINKS "You Really Got Me" (1964) [1,220 points, 12 votes]
102. TALKING HEADS "This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody)" (1983) [1,221 points, 10 votes]
94. (TIE) CAMEO "Word Up" (1986) [1,275 points, 12 votes]
92. THE VINCE GUARALDI TRIO "Linus and Lucy" (1964) [1,280 points, 13 votes]
84. CLAUDE DEBUSSY "Clair de Lune" (1905) [1,301 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
63. M|A|R|R|S "Pump Up the Volume" (1987) [1,402 points, 15 votes]
57. (TIE) NINA SIMONE "Sinnerman" (1965) [1,447 points, 14 votes]
55. QUEEN ft. DAVID BOWIE "Under Pressure" (1981) [1,475 points, 12 votes, 2 first place votes]
54. PET SHOP BOYS "West End Girls" (1985) [1,491 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]
51. DOLLY PARTON "Jolene" (1973) [1,493 points, 17 votes]

Hmm, 13. Coincidentally, I didn't vote for Big Star's "Thirteen" like I thought I had. Oops.

'I will drug you and read you my vote list/on the permafrost'

I'm wondering what the poll would look like if we cut out all multiple-entry bands except their top result, and then shifted up the next lot of results into the top 125.

I'll post this list after we're done...though it won't change the overall flavour of the results, I think it gives a nicer list. I'm going to stick my head out here and say pretty much every second (and third) track by a single band on the list is redundant in a sense. As an absolute rule, this is of course nonsense*, but if you've heard one Wire/Prince/Kraftwerk/late-period-Beach-Boys song you have a pretty good idea of where they fit in 20th-century music and why they're awesome.

* Sticking with the Beach Boys as an example, "Surf's Up" and "California Girls" would complement each other rather than contribute redundancy.

hey everyone

we don't need a running tally of what you voted for -- make a separate thread for ballot posting or something

― jagger reupholstered my pussy (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, December 1, 2010 4:27 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

or maybe wait til the end or near the end? that's what i'm gonna do.

I agree with the tally-posting-is-lame sentiment, even though I just did it.

It's the third day and I hadn't done it yet, so I was genuinely curious.

16 of my picks so far, um did anyone else vote for Magma - De Futura?

Yes, there were other votes for De Futura.

Other than Wire, Eno and possibly Autobahn I don't know where this coldness and distance is being manifested. Kate Bush and Queen/Bowie for example are supremely emotionally engaged records.

― State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Wednesday, December 1, 2010 1:12 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark

my point is being misconstrued. i originally mentioned ILX's predilection for elegant, cerebral art pop that indulges in or feigns histrionic emotionalism, even outright sentimentality (or else is robotically cold, a la kraftwerk). i'm not objecting to the dominance of the ILX house style because it is unemotional, but because the dominance is itself tedious.

2 wtf moments for me from today's results:

'under pressure' and that horrible, cloying cheap trick song.

my point is being misconstrued. i originally mentioned ILX's predilection for elegant, cerebral art pop that indulges in or feigns histrionic emotionalism, even outright sentimentality (or else is robotically cold, a la kraftwerk). i'm not objecting to the dominance of the ILX house style because it is unemotional, but because the dominance is itself tedious.

― phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:47 (4 minutes ago)

that's hardly a 'dominant' tranche of this list however you cut it

ILX's predilection for elegant, cerebral art pop that indulges in or feigns histrionic emotionalism, even outright sentimentality (or else is robotically cold, a la kraftwerk)

I think your point is being misconstrued because why not just say 'elegant, cerebral art pop'? Although I would still take issue about whether all the bands you listed are in fact that, at least it would make sense. Because right now you seem to be saying '...art pop that is either emotional or not'.

Sorry if it annoys you Jordan but I didn't keep a text copy of my ballot and doing my own recap helps me see how many songs on my ballot have appeared so far.

21/100

122. STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO "The Girl From Ipanema" (1964) [1,160 points, 11 votes]
121. PIXIES "Debaser" (1989) [1,161 points, 11 votes]
120. HENRY MANCINI & JOHNNY MERCER "Moon River" (1961) [1,165 points, 9 votes]
113. MILES DAVIS "Shhh/Peaceful" (1969) [1,186 points, 11 votes]
110. STEREOLAB "Jenny Ondioline" (1993) [1,197 points, 11 votes]
106. KRAFTWERK "Computer Love" (1981) [1,209 points, 10 votes]
104. RON GRAINER & DELIA DERBYSHIRE "Theme From 'Dr. Who'" (1963) [1,219 points, 12 votes]
84. CLAUDE DEBUSSY "Clair de Lune" (1905) [1,301 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
83. PRINCE & THE REVOLUTION "Kiss" (1986) [1,308 points, 14 votes]
81. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Soon" (1991) [1,313 points, 11 votes]
79. (TIE) LED ZEPPELIN "When the Levee Breaks" (1971) [1,313 points, 13 votes]
73. IGGY & THE STOOGES "Search and Destroy" (1973) [1,351 points, 15 votes]
72. ELIS REGINA & ANTONIO CARLOS JOBIM "Águas de Março" (1974) [1,352 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]
69. TOM TOM CLUB "Genius of Love" (1981) [1,373 points, 16 votes]
65. BJÖRK "Hyperballad" (1995) [1,397 points, 13 votes]
63. M|A|R|R|S "Pump Up the Volume" (1987) [1,402 points, 15 votes]
61. GIL SCOTT-HERON "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" (1971) [1,412 points, 14 votes]
59. KATE BUSH "Cloudbusting" (1985) [1,427 points, 13 votes]
57. (TIE) NINA SIMONE "Sinnerman" (1965) [1,447 points, 14 votes]
53. NANCY SINATRA & LEE HAZLEWOOD "Some Velvet Morning" (1967) [1,492 points, 17 votes]
51. DOLLY PARTON "Jolene" (1973) [1,493 points, 17 votes]

sad to see what's missing from the countdown. more interested now to see what placed 500-125. the rest of the list will not produce many surprises i wager.

Its like Jordan's plea went completely unviewed. I have to agree that its annoying to see these lists cluttering up an already packed thread.

well, stick an "often" in there if it pleases you.

if you'll forgive the redundancy and for purposes of clarification: i'm talking about the dominance of a cerebral, literary and often somewhat ironically distanced strain of experimental/art pop that equally often tends to emotionalism, the sentiment and intellectualism coexisting happily when they must. this was typically (though not always) guitar driven rock music prior to the late 70s, but becomes increasingly electronic and dance-oriented thereafter. it frequently displays a fascination with repetition, abstraction and the cultivation of atmosphere as an end in itself, though it remains steadfastly pop. it places a premium on aesthetic sophistication and elegance, though it can be quite fierce and even violent within those constraints.

for example: joy division, new order, bowie, eno, roxy music, pet shop boys, kraftwerk, radiohead, bjork, kate bush, wire, the smiths

i make the point about emotionalism and coldness because i'm talking not about the entire universe of art pop, which includes a great many other strains, but about a specific thread, and this thread, for whatever reason, gravitates to the poles of wrenching sentiment and icy intellection. the tension between these poles is what makes a song like "computer world" interesting, and this tension seems like a dominant theme in the music i'm discussing.

basically you're saying that low-grade aspergers informs our musical tastes

lol

Sorry I haven't been able to join in, but I wanted to listen to them all in order without spoilers and I can't do it in real time. This is really, really great though, thanks a bunch again for putting it together.

I'd never heard 'Sinnerman' before, but good lord what a song! Miles beyond anything else in the rundown so far imo, and now that I've heard it the only one there that might genuinely be the best track of the century.

Wow! Can't believe you never heard of Sinnerman before. Heard any other Nina Simone tracks? I honestly thought that one would make it to the top 20.

Anyway if you like that one I'd recommend: Funkier than a mosquito's tweeter, See-line Woman, Love Me or Leave Me, I ain't got no.

She's totally passed me by, but not for much longer I see. I thought 'Sinnerman' was familiar when I heard the tinkly intro (gets used in a car ad here if I'm right) but nothing to prepare me for what was about to drop - you don't get a pleasure like that very often.

fourteen for me

125. JOHNNY CASH "Folsom Prison Blues" (1955) [1,153 points, 13 votes]125. JOHNNY CASH "Folsom Prison Blues" (1955) [1,153 points, 13 votes]
123. MOTÖRHEAD "Ace of Spades" (1980) [1,159 points, 13 votes]
122. STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO "The Girl From Ipanema" (1964) [1,160 points, 11 votes]
112. N.W.A "Straight Outta Compton" (1988) [1,195 points, 11 votes]
110. STEREOLAB "Jenny Ondioline" (1993) [1,197 points, 11 votes]

94. (TIE) CAMEO "Word Up" (1986) [1,275 points, 12 votes]
86. AL GREEN "Let's Stay Together" (1971) [1,299 points, 14 votes]
85. MADONNA "Into the Groove" (1985) [1,300 points, 12 votes]
81. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Soon" (1991) [1,313 points, 11 votes]
77. KRAFTWERK "Autobahn" (1974) [1,331 points, 12 votes]

66. GETO BOYS "Mind Playing Tricks on Me" (1991) [1,395 points, 13 votes]
61. GIL SCOTT-HERON "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" (1971) [1,412 points, 14 votes]
53. NANCY SINATRA & LEE HAZLEWOOD "Some Velvet Morning" (1967) [1,492 points, 17 votes]
51. DOLLY PARTON "Jolene" (1973) [1,493 points, 17 votes]

I've had ten place so far. Will protect delicate souls by not listing 'em, but the highest by a distance was my no.4 'Move On Up' - much as I love that, it seems like kiddies' stuff after Nina.

(7/75)
106. KRAFTWERK "Computer Love" (1981) [1,209 points, 10 votes]
92. THE VINCE GUARALDI TRIO "Linus and Lucy" (1964) [1,280 points, 13 votes]
89. THE BEATLES "Penny Lane" (1967) [1,290 points, 11 votes]
75. BRIAN ENO "St. Elmo's Fire" (1975) [1,339 points, 12 votes]
72. ELIS REGINA & ANTONIO CARLOS JOBIM "Águas de Março" (1974) [1,352 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]
67. YES "Close to the Edge" (1972) [1,386 points, 12 votes]
59. KATE BUSH "Cloudbusting" (1985) [1,427 points, 13 votes]

the happiest thing to show up which I didn't vote for is Bjork

plus will someone turn off the commentary for kornrulez6969?

Loved 'Águas de Março' btw, it was a joy. I knew it from covers but not the original.

the biggest disappointment so far (besides not having better Nirvana, King Crimson, Fleetwood Mac, and Cheap Trick tracks) is Radiohead - Paranoid Android

That song just reminds of the first thing dicks learn how to play after a year of practicing acoustic guitar