ILM POLLS THE 20TH CENTURY'S BEST TRACKS ››› YOUR RESULTS THREAD ‹‹‹

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xp - Kind of agree, kind of don't. Anyway, I blame the voters.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

The ways lists like these are great: We find validation in knowing that other people like the things we like.
The ways lists like these aren't great: Things a lot of people like a little aren't as varied as the things people like a whole lot.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Hard to blame the voters, the canon choices are the ones that have to make it in a consensus list like this. Everybody has their own idiosyncratic choices, but what makes them non-canon is that by definition not a lot of people are going to vote for them.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - It's just that this always happens because the intersection between everyone's tastes is similar to the "canon". I wish there was less classic rock too, though.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

oh c'mon y'all. almost nothing on this list so far isn't awesome; and besides there are 86 songs left to go so hold yr butthurtness for a few minutes ok?

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

The individual lists are always more interesting to me than the consensus list for projects like this, IMO.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

85. (TIE) AL GREEN "Let's Stay Together" (1971) [1,299 points, 14 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVzYxqG9N1c

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I need a suit like Mr. Green's!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

For a canon/consensus list, I think this one is way above average.

xp- See!

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I think I voted "Love and Happiness" instead, but it was a tough choice.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted "Belle". This is still great.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

what's interesting to me are the ways a more personal ILX canon peeks out from within the larger list of agreed-upon classics. like "word up", "i'm not in love", "linus & lucy", "outdoor miner" acing "penny line", that kind of thing. even when i'm not crazy about the songs in question.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, should i have avoided voting for certain tracks due to my suspicion that they might appeal to the hated mojo readership?

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

"Penny Lane" was one of the few Beatles songs on my longer shortlist and is one of the few Paul McCartney songs I can stomach. I didn't vote for any Beatles in the end, but "A Day in the Life," "Happiness Is a Warm Gun," "She Said She Said," & "Strawberry Fields Forever" were the others I considered. I probably would have voted for "Nowhere Man" if it had been nominated.

Kent Burt, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for one Beatles track, hopefully it will make it.

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Overdosed on Outdoor Miner a while ago (the extended version btw which I believe was the single). Still a good song

Don't care at all for Abba but dig Dancing Queen

Love The Clash of course, voted Train In Vain.

This is probably the last showing for Reverend Green. Way too low. Voted "Here I Am" so I take some of the blame.

I'm very afraid of the Beatles at this point. We should have made an agreement to all vote only "No Reply"

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

This list is definitely more idiosyncratic than any music magazine's would be, but at the same time there is also only so much it can diverge from one as well, because taken in aggregate people just tend to appreciate the same shit. Blame society!

Ignore Me! (Viceroy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

'Smells Like Teen Spirit' didn't even crack the all-time metal tracks top hundred poll, so I'm pleased to see us doing right by it here.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

85. (TIE) IGGY & THE STOOGES "Search and Destroy" (1973) [1,299 points, 14 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDHdleEX6-s

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost Maybe because it's not metal?

daavid, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

had to happen i guess, even with the ridiculous number of Stooges songs nominated

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

No lie. First time I ever heard this song was in a Nike commercial.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

outdoor miner too low. don't think i'll ever tire of it - certainly not in the way i'm sick to death of smells like teen spirit and penny lane.

yeah, search and destroy is pretty damn cool. i remember it kicked my ass the first time i heard it.

charlie h, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes! Was worried this was going to get vote split out of the top 100.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

we used to play this track over and over again on the free jukebox in the basement of the college Jewish center after smuggling in 40s to pregame and play pool in their game room. Memories!

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

still hoping for either of the funhouse tracks i spent my stooge money on

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Very surprisingly not bad cover of "Search and Destroy"? EMF.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

84. MADONNA "Into the Groove" (1985) [1,300 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRfz5f6HZW0

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess "Penny Lane" in the Top 100 means "Strawberry Fields Forever" will do even better. Which is good.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

killer run!

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I love "Into the Groove" so so so much, but I really wish I could've voted for "Papa Don't Preach" (it wasn't nominated).

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Second song I voted for to make it. THE 80's disco masterpiece? Or is it actually "Holiday" (not nominated!!)?

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, this and Holiday are my favourite Madonnas. Can't remember whether I voted for it though.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Into the Groove, the best Madonna song?

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link

In the case of "Into The Groove", I didn't vote for it, but it's a great song. I would say the only case where Stephen Bray really got his production right.
I guess my main problem about Stephen Bray is that he is not quite pop and not quite dance, instead sitting in-between ending up with a style that is neither fish nor flesh, and also sounding very dated today (although "Into The Groove" is again one obvious exception). I prefer a more one-directional approach, like the dance producers that IMO have done the best work for Madonna have been Reggie Lucas, Jellybean, William Orbit, Mirwais and Stuart Price. Whereas Patrick Leonard is the one that more than anyone else managed to get her pop style right (particularly on the "Like a Prayer" albums). And, also Nile Rodgers (he may be more famous for his dance oriented work, but I would say his work on the "Like a Virgin" is more pop than dance).

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link

(And I may be the only one in the world who thinks this, but I think Madonna peaked with the medley of "Dear Jessie" and "Oh Father" ;) )

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link

This has been an amazing run.

I voted for Outdoor Miner, wonder if that will their only entry?

Can't remember which Madonna was nominated now, Burning Up is my favourite song of hers.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

on Into the Groove, I can never decide between the single and the album version. The edit is obviously tighter once it gets going but the introduction is not very effective IMO.

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh Father still boggles my mind with regard to it being released as a single (was it successful? I don't recall.) It's in a non-standard time signature, not at all a happy song, and a very subdued arrangement, even for a ballad. That was at the point in time when Madonna could do anything she damn well pleased, though.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes, loving this last run, poll is definitely getting better as it goes.

Moka, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link

This next on is the oldest song in the top 125, but could very well be the most beautiful...

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link

83. CLAUDE DEBUSSY "Clair de Lune" (1905) [1,301 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gElTKhbnQxU

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost Oh Father wasn't released as a single here in the UK until 1995 when she put out the Something To Remember compilation, it was a very small hit.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

YES! Should have placed top 10 but YES!

Moka, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh excellent, how can you not like this?

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't get voting for a single movement of a larger work/putting pop songs and classical pieces on the same level.

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Wasn't feeling this section of the list so much but am definitely happy to see something from the early section of the century place.

emil.y, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I do! Clair De Lune was my #1.

mormon's marmots (crüt), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

"Outdoor Miner"--did Robert Pollard listen to that song about 150 million times after teaching his 4th graders and before basketball and beer, or what?

ellaguru, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

This is 3 consecutive songs that I voted for, at #9 (Clair De Lune), #27 (Into the Groove) and #55 (Search and Destroy). Awesome.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link


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