Um, I Think It's Time for a Thread on WikiLeaks

why are these bros ddosing wikileaks

what's not to like ;_;

i have no idea what that means?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack

wikileaks said some evil bastard hacker types tried to DOS them

caek's graph refute or possibly confirms that *shrug emoticon*

On November 28, 2010, whistle blower site wikileaks.org experienced a ~minor~ DDoS attack. This was presumably related to the pending release of many thousands of secret diplomatic cables.[32]

aint no thang yall

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tbf, histrionics like http://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/8920530488926208 could have been fog of war and not, you know, histrionics

it was probably histrionics though

everyone otm that they seem to need the advice of people who understand the context of the documents, because they are not very good at this media stuff.

they've got that from their "media partners" now, but their interest is obviously in disclosure, even if it's just gossip. not sure that an organization processing massive amounts of confidential government data and deciding, without any real accountability, what to release and what to withhold is all that great an idea either - i mean, i can see why they thought releasing it all makes more sense even if that brings its own problems.

most whistleblowers usually do the selection and editing themselves though. question for me is still, what is it within this material and all the other leaks that bradley manning thought was so important? haven't seen anything worth going to jail for yet. and if there is something of significance, hasn't he undermined it by burying it in a flood of crap?

Well, spying on the UN is a pretty big deal, and basically illegal. Everyone knows the US does it, but nice to have the evidence (kind of like when you manage to pin something on Al Capone). Likewise, bullying Germany into not prosecuting US kidnappers is surely a somewhat big deal. And getting US diplomats to gather intelligence on Palestinian politicians to facilitate their extermination by Israel.

not just kill, exterminate

sright.

shakey otm lately.

i'm all for transparency but if anyone in politics cannot say *anything* without the risk of it being leaked then wtf is the point? its just going to make government officials even less likely to attempt to do things or think of new ideas in case they make a cock out of themselves on an international scale as opposed to the 1 intern they sent a memo to and losing their job. whereas iran will still be mental.

i guess if this stops a few conspiracy nuts then fine but i suspect their find a detail here or there to send them even more batshit.

as long as you're ok with saying hamas is out to 'exterminate' israelis then ok...

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http://i56.tinypic.com/a9vchy.gif

has 'trap going hamas' been used yet?

frankly the bank stuff is more compelling to me than a bunch of half-secret gossipy emails about the government. but I also think wikileaks hyping it's importance is getting a little old, because they aren' really leaking anything that explosive. the bank thing had better be. but at this point, what would really shock anyone?

yeah going 180, im a lot more pumped for the banking one

what would really shock anyone?

Thousands of emails saying "sorry"?

totally, seems like something we can all get behind. hope they make some effort to digest rather than merely infodump. xp

Once again the Taiwanese save you the bother of wading through pages of news...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhXid6PmkO4

The Economist's excellent editorial.

well, i'll be interested to see the economist's reaction to the bank leaks

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/11/29-9

^^Wikileaks Honduras: State Dept. Busted on Support of Coup

given the quality of other stuff Wikileaks has released so far my guess is this bank "megaleak" (lol) is just gonna be more bullshit we already know (ie "bankers are rich smug assholes robbing the rest of us blind!" shocker)

yeah well some of these wikileaks bros like to have an empirical basis for their morbsian assertions i guess

if the threshold of interestingness is 'huge conspiracy unpredicted even by most cynical leftist' then i don't know if any concievable leak will really raise more than a shrug (since 70s at least)

I don't think it's even really conspiracy theory about how the banks made out like bandits before/during/and after the "crisis" - there's plenty of damning stuff in the public record, it's just a lot of it is fairly incomprehensible to the average citizen (including me!)

yeah, but i'd guess there is more candour in internal documents

like that french dude who was up before congress w/ his damning emails

whatever happened there btw

shakey mo, esq: "but judge everyone KNOWS this guy did it"

as long as you don't say it explicitly, useful prosecutorial strategy right there

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/activate-reston5

ha

shakey mo, esq: "but judge everyone KNOWS this guy did it"

will seriously lol if one of Wikileaks illegally leaked documents is successfully used in court to prosecute a bank for a crime keep me posted on that

Wikileaks isn't interested in the law, everything they do is about (clumsily attempting to frame) media narratives and self-aggrandizement

will seriously lol if one of Wikileaks illegally leaked documents is successfully used in court to prosecute a bank for a crime keep me posted on that

doesn't quite work but you get what im saying

they're all in on it man

haha yeah that too

i'm hyped for some bank disclosures. would it be too donald sutherlandy to say that i expect that's more likely to get assange killed?

the crash and bailouts need a pentagon papers imo. there's a thousand books out describing how fucked we are but there needs to be a personal touch, "yeah, we're fuckin you" kind of thing

The Economist's excellent editorial.

― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:11 AM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark

"W.W." in Iowa City? that's will wilkinson innit. didn't know he wrote for DiA

xxxp - yes the literal meaning is exactly what i was going for there, thanks for clearing that up. now let's get organized and go speak hunches to power

Like, why is Prince Andrew even invited anywhere? I thought he was the ultimate no1curr royal.

yes wikileaks is all about providing evidence for court trials!! thats how all important changes happen rite, in a courtroom!! with a gavel!!!

shakey mo/palin 2012

shakey mo gives wikileaks' latest album a 4.8

shakey mo/palin 2012

if you people have a point you aren't expressing it very well

i believe i have some insight into their point

http://www.t-shirt-mania.com/bad-attitude-t-shirts/Fuck-the-Police.jpg

Leave Shakey alone: he's my transportation secretary.

Oh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfJJbrFvF7A&feature=player_embedded

Did this get posted?

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/11/30/10_conversations_that_just_got_a_little_more_awkward

lol @ "Julian Ahsaaaaahnge" in that clip