hey Stephen. thanks for posting.
original track order and everything! can hardly wait for volumes 2-3-5. especially 3.
― Milton Parker, Monday, 29 November 2010 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link
awesome, had no idea these were in the works
― (ㅅ) (am0n), Monday, 29 November 2010 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link
I am told by the record label Bureau Buskies that they will definitely do all the Selbstportrait volumes up to vol. 6.
4 and 6 are already with 1 and 2 just coming out now, and 3 and 5 to follow in 2011.
― Stephen Iliffe, Monday, 29 November 2010 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link
looks like they're redoing cluster II as well? guess the water label has gone under [ba-dum-tsssshhhh]
― (ㅅ) (am0n), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm all confused now. i have Selbstportraits I, II, III, and VI. what is IV? and V?
― nerve_pylon, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 00:53 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.discogs.com/Roedelius-Wenn-Der-S%C3%BCdwind-Weht/master/28323http://www.discogs.com/Roedelius-Flieg-Vogel-Fliege/release/1426718
mentioned nowhere on the packaging -- no one realized these albums were IV & V until he put out another one in 1990 and called it VI.
I, II, III & VI are all archival 70's recordings from Forst, some of the themes ended up reworked on the studio albums. I suspect IV & V were new recordings, but that he later decided were in the older style and so retroactively annointed them. they definitely sound different than the other new solo recordings on Sky from 78-84.
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link
oh! thanks! i do have those two too. anyhoo, kudos to Bureau for reissuing all of these.
― nerve_pylon, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 02:06 (thirteen years ago) link
And not forgetting the wonderful Selfportrait volumes 7 to 8 (7 = Ahead of the Wind, 8 = Introspection) these were recorded much later on after year 2000 and are digital rather than analogue but they have the same small scale intimacy and warmth, plus added colours and textures.
― Stephen Iliffe, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link
I really like this one a lot. I caught their performance in NYC last year and it was pretty magical.
― A happenstance discovery of asynchronous lesbians (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link
For those who might be interested, here is a haiku-style poem about Cluster's Grosses Wasser that was reproduced on the sleeve of the Water label's CD-rerelease of the album: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stepheniliffe/5208523107/in/set-72157624709969408/
― Stephen Iliffe, Thursday, 9 December 2010 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Discovered the Moebius/Plank/Neumaier record Zero Set today.Enjoying the tracks that are up on youtube.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 10 December 2010 00:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Here's a new and lengthy review of the classic Moebius/Plank Rastakraut Pasta:http://www.flickr.com/photos/stepheniliffe/5051492108/in/set-72157624709969408/
― Stephen Iliffe, Sunday, 16 January 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link
“In Conny’s hands, his mixing desk becamea sophisticated instrument,” says Petrus Wippel.
“He customised it with a quad stick so he could pan any instrument left and right, as well as dry and wet, with one fingertip, and make it fly through time and space.”
should come standard
― Milton Parker, Sunday, 16 January 2011 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Ah. I was listening to Jardin Au Fou just this evening. Such a lovely record. It is nice to see some appreciation for it earlier in this thread.
― MEG_tron (kraudive), Sunday, 16 January 2011 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Here's a lengthy text about the Harmonia Eno 76 album Tracks and Traces: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stepheniliffe/5377752168/
― Stephen Iliffe, Monday, 24 January 2011 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link
i want to start a Zuckerzeit vs. Sowiesoso poll but i don't know if enough people here have heard those albumsbesides, Sowiesoso should win in a landslide!
― frogbs, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
you are underestimating ILM.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
for real
― Art Arfons (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
Curiosum vs. Metz 23-9-77 poll
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not sure how many of the above posters post anymore? I know Cluster is spoken very highly of but they're nowhere as well known as Neu! or Can
ok, ok, the real reason is that i have made too many polls lately
― frogbs, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
but seriously, Sowiesoso is amazing, did these guys do anything else like it?
There are moments that echo Sowiesoso spread throughout Moebius' and Rodelius' respective discographies. Like this tune has that vibe imohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKr2rfheAAM
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
Roedelius is playing at a small club here in town next month, very curious to see what that'll be like.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
thats a sweet tune Trip
― frogbs, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 00:28 (twelve years ago) link
go Geeta
http://blog.frieze.com/interview-dieter-moebius/
― Milton Parker, Friday, 20 January 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
i want to start a Zuckerzeit vs. Sowiesoso poll but i don't know if enough people here have heard those albums
lol @ this
― 51 fewer calories (Lamp), Friday, 20 January 2012 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
tbf I think a lot of those posters left but yeah lets do it
― frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Friday, 20 January 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
36 votes: CLUSTER / Moebius & Roedelius solo & group recordings 1970-1986 poll
almost started Moebius solo poll. there is no Moebius solo thread.
― Milton Parker, Friday, 20 January 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
Cluster II, the one with the stars on the cover, we made with Conny Plank. It was all very big improvisations, and we recorded it in Hamburg. We didn’t have a lot of time, because it was not our studio. I think we made it in one night, or something like that.
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Friday, 20 January 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
good interview
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 20 January 2012 21:10 (twelve years ago) link
there is that 15 minute track 'Live In Der Fabrik' on Cluster II, so probably not quite all in one night. but yeah these guys had this music on tap, those early records are incredible
― Milton Parker, Friday, 20 January 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
yes, sweet interview! I would love to participate in a Moebius solo thread or poll, I think I have almost all the albums. The other poll had way too many great albums so it was impossible to really get any worthwhile results IMO.
― liam fennell, Friday, 20 January 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
thanks for reading, guys! glad this is finally up, so i can focus on the next Big Frieze Piece, which also involves germany & the 1970s & electronic music
― geeta, Friday, 20 January 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
germany & the 1970s & electronic music
<3
(plz to link on ILX when up, thank you)
saw Moebius live a year ago and he seemed genuinely touched that people (and a pretty young crowd) came out and were into it - seemed like a super nice guy
― Schleimpilz im Labyrinth (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 20 January 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link
i will! if you liked the moebius piece you will love the next one - it incorporates some quotes from moebius & also new insights from eno & many other people i'm talking to for it - it's a real labor of love along the lines of the conrad schnitzler piece i did a few months back
― geeta, Friday, 20 January 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
geeta, are these pieces heading in the direction of a book? b/c that would be nice
― rob, Friday, 20 January 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link
ha!
from what i've heard, a book on krautrock is already in the works with a major publisher & it's not by me
but i wouldn't want to write a 'krautrock' book per se but something more specific
― geeta, Friday, 20 January 2012 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
For those of you who might be interested, I have posted the entire Kluster / Cluster / Harmonia / Roedelius discography here - along with the album reviews here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stepheniliffe/sets/72157624709969408/
Best wishes, Stephen Iliffe (author of Painting with Sound - the life and music of Roedelius)
― Stephen Iliffe, Thursday, 24 January 2013 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
Qluster?
new lp sounds great on first listen
― koogs, Friday, 1 February 2013 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
a fourth one already? yikes
being a return to analog synth sound design, these are some of the most casually listenable Roedelius CDs in a long time; they're pretty and floaty, like new age versions of the first three Kluster records. but as unedited improvs, with no tunes, there's not much to hang on to once they're over. I'd probably love this live.
― Milton Parker, Friday, 1 February 2013 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
wait, who is Qluster
― frogbs, Friday, 1 February 2013 19:25 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Qluster
Lauschen very synthy, yes. i had a quick listen to one of the others (Antworten) online and it was more acoustic piano.
― koogs, Friday, 1 February 2013 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
The updated complete album reviews of Cluster/Harmonia/Roedelius albums is now available here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stepheniliffe/sets/72157624709969408/with/5209118924/
― Stephen Iliffe, Friday, 17 May 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link
are you any relation to April Iliffe, formerly of the Legendary Pink Dots?
― Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Friday, 17 May 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link
wow, can't wait to read these
― frogbs, Saturday, 18 May 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link
I have to rep for the first two Selbsportrait volumes, extremely pretty pastoral stuff. Roedelius is a true genius.
― brimstead, Sunday, 19 May 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link
Digging around spotify tonight thinking about Moebius led me to check in with Roedelius - did not realize Qluster just put out a new album a couple of weeks ago, Taten: http://open.spotify.com/album/3aJzfWhyzzkk8ixFTF6xlg
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 23 July 2015 04:34 (eight years ago) link
er, Tasten
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 23 July 2015 04:35 (eight years ago) link
What is this "Cluster" tour notice for an April show in MA I just got in my Songkick? Qluster?
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 04:56 (eight years ago) link
He says on Facebook he will tour "all around the world!" in 2016, but the only April listing now is in Belgrade.https://de-de.facebook.com/Roedelius/
― mutually aquatinted (doo dah), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 12:15 (eight years ago) link