curren$y (or currensy i guess) - pilot talk

because there were a million better ways to tell spiralli to fuck off than

"we don't want you to listen to rap"

which i just hate hate hate on a really visceral level

i mean it's really, really not a big deal--i know deej's name is permanently surrounded by drudgesirens these days--but we should all just stop talking about this tbh. it's the night before thanksgiving and i'm drinking alone, i just want everyone to love each other.

except ilxor who was the actual dick itt

i 100% sincerely think you are frequently an unbearable asshole when you post about rap and "anyone engaging with rap seriously should know 'the mixtapes'" is just such a beautiful illustration of that it is almost self-parody.

― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, November 24, 2010 7:33 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

these two things are separate -- deej CAN be an unbearable asshole when he posts about rap but he's not always, and after his "i told you so" nonsense itt he posted a long post about why he digs pilot talk 2 -- legit jumping point for discussion & the kinda post that we want/need

i know that not everyone can sit around all day listening to mixtapes like most of the goons, but, like, mixtapes play a much bigger role when it comes to modern rap than albums. it's not even close. there is no gate keeping being done here where you have to show off your currensy or waka mixtapes punch card, but those of us that do listen to those tapes are gonna come in these threads & talk about those tapes, cuz it's always gonna be relevant. this is underground cliquey crap. rap in 2010 = mixtapes, songs only on youtube, songs only on hulkshare etc. it's not an asshole thing.

& deej is right about how he approached dan in the waka thread & john in this thread -- he's more of a dick to goons that aren't paying attention

deej's comment was totally innocuous & just shit being shot back at shit -- deej is rhapsodic about the rap that he loves

lol

this is NOT underground cliquey crap

i still kinda think everyone would be better off w/ the 213 hours of quik's career tbh

wheres rev at to back me up on this

― challop and a muff (deej), Wednesday, November 24, 2010 6:41 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ur basically sating "fuck off newjack" tho, which rev would never say. rev would, and did, say "start with rythym-al-ism".

― zvookster, Wednesday, November 24, 2010 6:45 PM Bookmark

both these posts otm :D

okay yeah sorry aero, my bad, was obv. meant to be a deej zing and not aimed @ u

WHOA that shit was mod edited? fuck me sideways

anyway. back on topic. J0rdan OTM, deej is not rly outta line in this thread at all, i havent heard any of the mixtapes but deej's energy is kinda infectious & makes me want to hear em. love pilot talk 1 & waiting on 2 to arrive.

also: feeling rly left out b/c apparently rap in 2010 = mixtapes, blogs, youtube and here i am just buying CDs as usual ;_;

beat on 'fashionably late' is classic like reasonable doubt ski shit

i personally am kind of an albums guy and am not that big on picking through individual songs on blogs, youtube, etc. but mixtapes really are basically albums now and it's basically as easy to follow which big/good mixtapes are out as w/ official albums now, the whole thing is that it's not this dense inaccessible hardcore fan only scene it used to be.

sorry for overusing "basically"

"The mixtapes were better" is also pretty much a truism now, right?

Like, would it even make sense to consider the careers - even the commercial success - of Lil' Wayne, Gucci Mane, Nikki Minaj (to name three examples that to me seem particularly prominent) based just on their official studio albums?

beat on 'fashionably late' is classic like reasonable doubt ski shit

Okay need to hear this now.

Like, would it even make sense to consider the careers - even the commercial success - of Lil' Wayne, Gucci Mane, Nikki Minaj (to name three examples that to me seem particularly prominent) based just on their official studio albums?

no, of course not -- it would be like judging a piece of art only by the frame

i love tha carter ii & iii and the state vs. radric davis, haven't heard more than a handful of tracks from dedication 2 or da drought 3 or burrprint 3d, which i'll check out on youtube if i am pointed in that direction but otherwise don't really seek out. too much music out there for me to NEED to hear every "good" mixtape track that wayne's ever done; i'm satisfied with a couple statements that he feels justified putting out to the wider public.

sad? maybe, but it works alright for me

this reminds me i need to dl those lil wayne sqad up mixtapes

dling pt2 now

listening to higher than 30k while i wait

i love tha carter ii & iii and the state vs. radric davis, haven't heard more than a handful of tracks from dedication 2 or da drought 3 or burrprint 3d, which i'll check out on youtube if i am pointed in that direction but otherwise don't really seek out. too much music out there for me to NEED to hear every "good" mixtape track that wayne's ever done; i'm satisfied with a couple statements that he feels justified putting out to the wider public.

You don't NEED to hear anything, but given the mixtapes you listed there are all widely considered to be better* than their attendant studio albums, the fact that you'd bother to check the studio albums but not the mixtapes seems pretty arbitrary.

Like, I get not automatically checking every mixtape an artist puts out, but when some of them are in effect studio albums which possibly even the artist would admit are better than the album that just happens to get officially pushed by a major label, then disregarding them seems obstinate, the equivalent of thinking that, say, 3d animation is for kids.

* as always, insert caveat for Lil Wayne w/r/t carter II, shifts in style etc.

the equivalent of thinking that, say, 3d animation is for kids.

wouldn't say it's this kinda thing. more like, i've never bothered with any file-sharing or downloading, i tend to like artifacts, things i can curate and put on a shelf and then pull out at various times to reevaluate and hear again. so i've heard tracks here and there from the mixtapes. but once i leave youtube, i don't make an effort to download the full things and store 'em on my hard drive. not really the sins of the artist, more like i pay more attention to what's on physical format because it's what i've always done. maybe i'm old fashioned.

<3 dude rapping about nice & smooth over the "next movement" beat

well youre missing out then, your bad xp

"michael knight" has the most hilarious hook ever

and yeah, some of the raps on this are like o_O

seriously!

"michael knight" has the most hilarious hook ever

― princess tamtam swag (The Reverend), Thursday, November 25, 2010 2:28 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark

Yes, it's hilarious that Curren$y turns Michael Knight into a catchphrase, but it's really no different than Swizzy yelling "Oh you fancy huh?" a dozen times in a row. And I'm randomly breaking out into MICHAEL KNIGHT! MICHAEL KNIGHT! all the time. And Raekwon kills the remix.

The only bad song is "Silence" wtf is that shit. McKenzie Eddy is the worst. And the beat is jarring too after all that smooth shit.

Interrupts the high.

co-sign, "Silence" is the only dud on an album that jams so hard

I fux with these young roddy and trademark dudes. More of them, less dom Kennedy and mckenzie whatever would have been good. I skip those two tracks

"famous" is extremely dope

If he really listens to Primus he might be the coolest person in the world

Know how it's obvious that PT2 is better than PT1? Better album art.

co-sign, "Silence" is the only dud on an album that jams so hard

― the tune is space, Thursday, November 25, 2010 1:29 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

forget if i said this but yeah 100% this song makes no sense. its tonally like ... "Renegade" or something! such an odd song to put in the middle of breezy stoner jams

Yes, it's hilarious that Curren$y turns Michael Knight into a catchphrase, but it's really no different than Swizzy yelling "Oh you fancy huh?" a dozen times in a row. And I'm randomly breaking out into MICHAEL KNIGHT! MICHAEL KNIGHT! all the time. And Raekwon kills the remix.

― altered boners (rennavate), Thursday, November 25, 2010 11:18 AM Bookmark

*SKEW-dododododododo*

lol i love the SKEW-dododododododo

went crazy and dl'd a bunch of these mixtapes over the holiday (Higher Than 30K, Smokee Robinson, and How Fly). good stuff.

what's the beat with the piano and hard snaps on "Lemon Kush" from Smokee Robinson? (also used for "Orange Juice" on OFWGKTA's Radical)

I should probably know it but can't come up with it

Gucci mane - "lemonade" prob

Pilot talk 2 really is drastically better than the first

yup that's it. damn could swear I've listened to that track before. I don't have that Gucci album tho.

gotta recommend "this aint no mixtape"

& yeah lemon kush is a 'freestyle' over gucci's lemonade

what's some other Wiz Khalifa to check for

could read the thread I guess but this is faster

kush & oj mixtape

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enjambment

^^^relevent read imo

relavent, durr

i was right the first time :(

both wrong actually lol

arrrghgh

holy shit does he call out "garbage bag" rappers?

and yeah, this is great on first blush; certainly as good as pt. 1 if not better