Yelawolf: Trunk Muzik/ TM 0-60 / Radioactive

dude havent i been criticizing big krit for the exact same topical genericism that has been done before cf country shit basically being nappy roots as far as subject matter??

― challop and a muff (deej), Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:32 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

i said i was referring to m@tt's post

well this isn't anything that yelawolf can control

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:36 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it seems like hes trying v hard to control how hes perceived that way imo

Confederate flags, I see u
on the truck with the windows down, why’s he playin Beanie Sigel?
cause his daddy was a dopeman
Lynrd Skynrd didn’t talk about movin’ keys of coke, man

bad example, this is one of the most natural verses on the trunk muzik mixtape. it's a visual observation followed by social one in just the way the mind works.

some of the other things feel a bit too deliberately signifying but are still dope imo -- fallin' off his dirt bike in cargo pants, pbr bottles -- tho i'm left cold by the dylan crossover whiney loves so much.

he lays it on with a trowel in "pop the trunk" -- momma choppin early mornin hog with a hatchet etc.; "this ain't a figment of imagination buddy, this is where i live, 'bama" -- but obv it works really well there with a whole southern gothic thing going on.

it seems like hes trying v hard to control how hes perceived that way imo

― challop and a muff (deej), Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:38 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

how else would he want to be perceived -- i mean he's supposed to, what, say "hey y'all i'm just some dude that raps. check me out!"

i mean if you believe that he's rapping about how he grew up & his life etc then what else do you want?

if that bores you than its just taste etc but otherwise you're arguing that he should distort his image & persona so he's less of who he is

i'm pretty sure dark days and deliverance are still dope btw xpost to rev

i mean he's supposed to, what, say "hey y'all i'm just some dude that raps. check me out!"

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:41 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

i personally would strongly identify with music with that message

well that's nice, i hope you're able to buy 200,000 yelawolf albums

he's def got a super theatrical streak so his played-up persona doesn't really bother me

he's just a good rapper; ep is fun. i am not gonna overthink, need to save that for kanye

dude what were saying is that theres something forced-seeming about his 'just telling it how it is' storyline. i def dont think yelawolf is the only dude guilty of doing this, but sometimes rappers are trying hard to sound authentic & real & it comes across as kind of stagey

& i dont dislike dude or think hes the worst at this by any means! its just what keeps me from loving everything he does. & to be clear, its not about whether or not hes real -- its about whether his persona is performed in a way that suspends that question from my mind

but i think he is stagey and it works!

agreed.

re: bubba, i like but don't love deliverance, it's is pretty much half-great and half-ok, but i like it more for the production than for bubba. my problem with him is i find him kind of plainspoken to the point of boringness. like, it's good that dude is hella earnest when he's in that mode, but he seems to take little joy in words or in entertainment. and when he does do something more lighthearted, he seems kinda uninvested.

glad this thread is around cause i gave up on reading the kanye thread

but i think he is stagey and it works!

^^^^

Obv there will be critics who salivate over authenticity and the like but these critics are always wrong about everything and should not be allowed to ruin good music with their bs.

re: bubba, i like but don't love deliverance, it's is pretty much half-great and half-ok, but i like it more for the production than for bubba. my problem with him is i find him kind of plainspoken to the point of boringness. like, it's good that dude is hella earnest when he's in that mode, but he seems to take little joy in words or in entertainment. and when he does do something more lighthearted, he seems kinda uninvested.

― based lord sotosyn (The Reverend), Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:14 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

oh man ... i think i look at this exactly oppositely of u!!

except for "wanna party" i don't like any of the new songs nearly as much as i like the old songs

the classic rock shit that pops up on like half the new tracks is not what makes him enjoyable imo

This thread is pretty odd considering I thought Yela was pretty good on the first tape and few verses at playing down the 'lol whitey' thing. Hell, wasn't the Dylan thing originally done by Santana? Anyway I think this guy has potential and that we are doing that inane thing again of overanalysing a rapper before they even put out their first proper record.

But as gangsta rap struggles to find fresh angles, maybe Jesse Pinkman isn't a bad place to go if done properly. It is certainly more interesting to me to hear about those stuck in the trenches than the big man Scarface thing these days.

Also Bubba sucks.

the whole "let's not think tooo much about a new artist until they've been around a while and aren't new anymore" thing has always seemed odd to me, weird reasoning for wanting to discourage discussion.

me 2

also bubba does not suck

yela did the hook on the og santana joint, he just didn't take a verse. remix is the worst song on the og trunk muzik tho. usually turn it off after "love is not enough"

some dude otm

imagine if we never talked about nicki minaj and then all gathered around the judges table as 'pink friday' drops

imagine a world without leaks and youtubes

no thanks

trying to figure out j0rdan's point and ??????

not that post, the one before it

i think the idea is to breathe for a moment and appreciate an interesting new artist before deciding if he has a valid persona or not.

obv this doesn't work here, in particular

naw, pretty much everyond itt heard the og trunk muzik, right?

eh unless it's oddfuture i don't give dl'ed shit more than a cursory listen to see if it seems cool

trying to figure out j0rdan's point and ??????

― princess tamtam swag (The Reverend), Tuesday, November 23, 2010 9:46 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

my post about minaj?

yeah that one

i'm kinda tipsy so maybe it does make sense but not me right now

i was referring to this part of a hoy hoy's post

Anyway I think this guy has potential and that we are doing that inane thing again of overanalysing a rapper before they even put out their first proper record.

ah ok

imagine alll the people

didn't like the new songs at first but they're growing on me

really like how he rides "that's what we on now" with a slight swing thats not present in the beat

The Minaj point is an odd one because she is the only new rapper where she is involved in trying to do something different and people are actively wanting to do so. Yela has an interesting take that hasn't really been done often before and people are calling him out on it before he's really been given a chance to show how he can use it. Seems like part of that sped up blog cycle of hype-then-hate.

nah i think now's exactly the right time to start analysing yelawolf - i'm far from convinced by deej's argument but it's always good to see an artist move out of the "rolling [x] thread" pack where everyone just nods along to the mixtape or random track. yelawolf def has something TO analyse now.

bubba does not suck - i love this yelawolf album but it's nowhere near as great as deliverance imo - but i don't hear them as particularly comparable; if we're gonna pull out the white rapper comparisons, eminem springs to mind far more, it's that sharp-elbowed and slightly scrawny me-against-the-world tone to yela's flow. though where eminem was sociopathic, i'm getting a hint of southern gentleman beneath yela's rowdiness (that i've just realised can't totally be backed up, it's just a slight vibe i get).

This guy doesn't make me think of Em or Bubba tbh

or the beasties, 3rd bass or anyone on def jux

dude is more 'calm busta with song ideas instead of crazy shit'

The rock aspects are being way overemphasised here, there are like what two tracks with guitar samples here?

yeah this is pretty amazing. boy's skilled.

http://yourstru.ly/2010/11/29/yelawolf-the-boy-who-cried-wolf/

good shit -- would like to hear a better recording of the version he did w/ the roots a few weeks back

second verse of "pop the trunk" is the fucking shit