One of my best friends covered the Florida legislature for a local paper from 2004 to 2007, during Rubio's tenure as speaker. Even then he was telling me the guy is intelligent and shrewd. You must remember this about Cubans: despite their purported right wing tendencies, most of them are (a) old (b) depend on Social Security (c) are fairly moderate on "social" issues (my parents are Hannity-loving righties for whom the right to an abortion is sacrosanct).
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 November 2010 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link
There's lots of inter-Latino racism, in other words (cf. the Chicano vs. Latino debate).
^^^I do get this sense yes, just judging from my neighbors, but I don't have a clear understanding of how things break down, it seems pretty convoluted
― you can sub out "bipartisan solutions" for "some of my dick" (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 19 November 2010 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link
nakhchivan that would have been delightful but I think only you would have gotten it? oblique puns aren't often my stock
― acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Cubans and Argentines hate everyone else, basically.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 November 2010 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link
isn't florida the only swing state where cubans are a significant demographic? and assuming rubio would have that already....
― nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link
I.e. I think the GOP will have a hard time getting Mexican-Americans to vote for Rubio just because he's Cuban. If he's the GOPs guy in 2012, it's for his political skills, not for his ethnicity.
― Euler, Friday, 19 November 2010 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link
isn't florida the only swing state where cubans are a significant demographic?
No idea bout New Jersey politics other than their blueness, right? Bob Menendez is a consistent vote for anti-Castro sanctions.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 November 2010 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah there's no significant cuban population in any other state afaik outside of maybe Jersey and NY...? the equivalent would be the GOP elevating some Filipino-American rep from California to run for President under the assumption that that'll guarantee the "Asian" vote
GOP's always been amazingly tin-eared about race stuff.
― you can sub out "bipartisan solutions" for "some of my dick" (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 19 November 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link
At any rate, Rubio will not be in the Senate very long -- one of the reasons I didn't worry about our Senate race. Bill Nelson, our other senator, is very much in the pre-1964 Dem tradition at which we excel (e.g. Bob Graham, Lawton Chiles).
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 November 2010 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link
rubio's gonna be playing point for the t-wolves next year
― there was usic in the cafes at night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 November 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Florida politics are so weird. I've written before about my congresswoman and regular on Bill Maher's show.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 November 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9e/Census_Bureau_2000,_Cubans_in_the_United_States.png
― Domingo Halliburton (jaymc), Friday, 19 November 2010 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link
can def see the first hispanic president being republican somehow, possibly via a hamfisted attempt at creating a 'postracial' antiobama in 12/16
― nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link
damn...what's not to like about sunny GA/AL?
― nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Look at the tip of North Carolina. Tengo hermanos!
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 November 2010 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link
palin is second favourite for r nom in 2012 according to uk bookies :/
― nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 23:34 (thirteen years ago) link
lol UK
― you can sub out "bipartisan solutions" for "some of my dick" (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 19 November 2010 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link
that says more about her name recognition obv
but i think yr a hostage to fortune if you discount her completely
― nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link
britain is so laughably underinformed abt us politics tbh
― acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link
uk very interested in hearing more about senator ben roethlisberger's latest scandal
― omar little, Friday, 19 November 2010 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link
christ I need to ban myself from visiting the BBC website, it's a poison
― acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link
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lolololol
― there was usic in the cafes at night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 November 2010 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link
isn't he some sort of quartermaster
― acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link
pittsburgh's rvp iirc
― nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link
that's robin van persie, rapiest valuable player in uk soccerball
― nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link
:D
dude btw are there many good alternative brit news sources to the bbc? rly think we shd start one if not?
― acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 23:50 (thirteen years ago) link
guardian?
― nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link
ok no then (guardian admittedly being quite good for football (ROW versh))
― acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link
read yr ilx/nyt
― nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 23:59 (thirteen years ago) link
ILX is and has long been my #1 undisputed news service!!
― acoleuthic, Saturday, 20 November 2010 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link
To me, it'll be enough that Palin runs. I don't think she can win, other people say she can, whatever--the only thing that's guaranteed is that if she runs, it'll be a spectacle-and-a-half. If she were up against Rubio, I assume there would be ample pushback against her from within her own party. She doesn't respond well to that, and that's when the fun would begin.
― clemenza, Saturday, 20 November 2010 00:49 (thirteen years ago) link
every time she says something i hate her a little more for being such a smug creep.
i hate her, too, but -- and i mean this very, very sincerely -- she is still cute, in a naughty-librarian sort-of-way
http://www.coolsprings.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/sarah-palin-america-by-heart-book.jpg
flag pin is a nice touch. shows she's thinkin' next-level.
still . . . me and hon. soto have the same thought for 2012
I'm telling you: it's Rubio. The GOP has such a terrible record with Hispanics that party leaders will forgo their usual habit of anointing an old, tired worthy and go for someone as pretty and eloquent as Obama.― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 20 November 2010 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link
but, unlike alfred, i think rubio (and rick perry) will have major trouble on immigration-issues in the primary.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 20 November 2010 00:56 (thirteen years ago) link
as pretty and eloquent as Obama
C'mon--Sarah's got half that covered.
― clemenza, Saturday, 20 November 2010 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't think rubio is anywhere as eloquent as obama, actually. but he's good enough to compete.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link
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the American/worldwide sports betting sites have her as the second leading candidate as well.
http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/politics-and-election/us-presidential-election/republican-candidate
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link
flag pin
flag bracelet
FLAGS
AMERICA
― literally the worst thing that ever happened on this planet (reddening), Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:14 (thirteen years ago) link
that's based largely on name recognition. hard to know who will emerge, because of all the new faces in the GOP now. but i still stick with what i said.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:16 (thirteen years ago) link
The same friend who covered Tallahassee said Rubio's speech (his equivalent of Reagan's The Speech) about living in a Land of Opportunity as the son of political exiles was moving exactly once. He now says he's heard it 500 times.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, i think you may be overstating rubio's eloquence and smarts. i still think he's largely an empty suit. but he's a handsome empty suit, who looks like the kind of figure the GOP likes. and being hispanic will help him with the GOP (there you're totally right; that's largely why they dream of him as "their obama").
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:19 (thirteen years ago) link
I didn't overstate it at all! I thought Obama was a pretty empty suit in 2007, but one which said a few things I liked.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link
In other words, I'll call anyone who claims to genuinely like Sarah Palin a dumb ass, but Marco Rubio's appeal isn't strange to me at all.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:24 (thirteen years ago) link
My admiration for Barack Obama in 2007 was literary, after reading his first book and noting how crisply and thoughtfully he could discuss his past.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:27 (thirteen years ago) link
depends on what you mean by "empty suit," i suppose. obama was very bright and articulate (to me, much moreso than rubio; but rubio is slick and telegenic enough).
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:28 (thirteen years ago) link
i have relatives who are "fans" of hers on facebook and i don't really feel like debating anyone about it, b/c man do people ever get rabid in their defense of her. maybe because they see themselves in her, or imagine they do? they never really ask themselves if they would also be legitimate candidates for the presidency, though i'm almost afraid to find out how many of them would answer that question with a "yes."
― omar little, Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:32 (thirteen years ago) link
honestly, i hope she and/or tom tancredo run, and force the tea-party wing to turn on rubio and/or rick perry, both of whom are "soft" on immigration.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Her cultural critique is not limited to "Idol." Palin praises the uplifting "It's a Wonderful Life," starring Jimmy Stewart, which teaches, she says, that "working hard and doing the right thing pays off in the end." But look, she writes, at Kevin Spacey's character in "American Beauty," who comes home and tells his wife he quit his job, blackmailed his boss and asks her to please pass the asparagus. "Message: Hard work is for suckers and brainwashed, brain-dead drones," Palin writes.
Palin praises "Juno," the movie where a pregnant teen chooses to carry her baby. "Most Americans, I think, are a lot like Juno," she writes — they may not be actively religious, "but they still want to do the right thing." She also likes "Knocked Up," in which a baby results from a one-night stand, and "The 40-Year-Old Virgin."
would love to read her take on "All About Eve"
― hubertus bigend (m coleman), Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Remind me to tell you about the time I looked into the heart of an artichoke.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Sarah is also a fan of "A Face In The Crowd"
― hubertus bigend (m coleman), Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:44 (thirteen years ago) link
rounding out palin's top five movies: ben hur, yankee doodle dandy, pootie tang.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:57 (thirteen years ago) link