new Sarah Palin book to enthuse over

My father is an immigrant from South America, and he used to make terrible racist jokes about Cubans.

Rubio is as much a cipher as Obama was in 2007. He says all the "right" things, but I know his type SO well.

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thought u might be going for some birther lulz [via]

There's lots of inter-Latino racism, in other words (cf. the Chicano vs. Latino debate).

One of my best friends covered the Florida legislature for a local paper from 2004 to 2007, during Rubio's tenure as speaker. Even then he was telling me the guy is intelligent and shrewd. You must remember this about Cubans: despite their purported right wing tendencies, most of them are (a) old (b) depend on Social Security (c) are fairly moderate on "social" issues (my parents are Hannity-loving righties for whom the right to an abortion is sacrosanct).

There's lots of inter-Latino racism, in other words (cf. the Chicano vs. Latino debate).

^^^I do get this sense yes, just judging from my neighbors, but I don't have a clear understanding of how things break down, it seems pretty convoluted

nakhchivan that would have been delightful but I think only you would have gotten it? oblique puns aren't often my stock

Cubans and Argentines hate everyone else, basically.

isn't florida the only swing state where cubans are a significant demographic? and assuming rubio would have that already....

I.e. I think the GOP will have a hard time getting Mexican-Americans to vote for Rubio just because he's Cuban. If he's the GOPs guy in 2012, it's for his political skills, not for his ethnicity.

isn't florida the only swing state where cubans are a significant demographic?

No idea bout New Jersey politics other than their blueness, right? Bob Menendez is a consistent vote for anti-Castro sanctions.

isn't florida the only swing state where cubans are a significant demographic? and assuming rubio would have that already....

yeah there's no significant cuban population in any other state afaik outside of maybe Jersey and NY...? the equivalent would be the GOP elevating some Filipino-American rep from California to run for President under the assumption that that'll guarantee the "Asian" vote

GOP's always been amazingly tin-eared about race stuff.

At any rate, Rubio will not be in the Senate very long -- one of the reasons I didn't worry about our Senate race. Bill Nelson, our other senator, is very much in the pre-1964 Dem tradition at which we excel (e.g. Bob Graham, Lawton Chiles).

rubio's gonna be playing point for the t-wolves next year

Florida politics are so weird. I've written before about my congresswoman and regular on Bill Maher's show.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9e/Census_Bureau_2000,_Cubans_in_the_United_States.png

can def see the first hispanic president being republican somehow, possibly via a hamfisted attempt at creating a 'postracial' antiobama in 12/16

damn...what's not to like about sunny GA/AL?

Look at the tip of North Carolina. Tengo hermanos!

palin is second favourite for r nom in 2012 according to uk bookies :/

lol UK

that says more about her name recognition obv

but i think yr a hostage to fortune if you discount her completely

britain is so laughably underinformed abt us politics tbh

uk very interested in hearing more about senator ben roethlisberger's latest scandal

christ I need to ban myself from visiting the BBC website, it's a poison

uk very interested in hearing more about senator ben roethlisberger's latest scandal

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lolololol

isn't he some sort of quartermaster

pittsburgh's rvp iirc

that's robin van persie, rapiest valuable player in uk soccerball

:D

dude btw are there many good alternative brit news sources to the bbc? rly think we shd start one if not?

guardian?

ok no then (guardian admittedly being quite good for football (ROW versh))

read yr ilx/nyt

ILX is and has long been my #1 undisputed news service!!

To me, it'll be enough that Palin runs. I don't think she can win, other people say she can, whatever--the only thing that's guaranteed is that if she runs, it'll be a spectacle-and-a-half. If she were up against Rubio, I assume there would be ample pushback against her from within her own party. She doesn't respond well to that, and that's when the fun would begin.

every time she says something i hate her a little more for being such a smug creep.

i hate her, too, but -- and i mean this very, very sincerely -- she is still cute, in a naughty-librarian sort-of-way

http://www.coolsprings.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/sarah-palin-america-by-heart-book.jpg

flag pin is a nice touch. shows she's thinkin' next-level.

still . . . me and hon. soto have the same thought for 2012

I'm telling you: it's Rubio. The GOP has such a terrible record with Hispanics that party leaders will forgo their usual habit of anointing an old, tired worthy and go for someone as pretty and eloquent as Obama.

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but, unlike alfred, i think rubio (and rick perry) will have major trouble on immigration-issues in the primary.

as pretty and eloquent as Obama

C'mon--Sarah's got half that covered.

i don't think rubio is anywhere as eloquent as obama, actually. but he's good enough to compete.

palin is second favourite for r nom in 2012 according to uk bookies :/

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lol UK

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the American/worldwide sports betting sites have her as the second leading candidate as well.

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/politics-and-election/us-presidential-election/republican-candidate

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palin is second favourite for r nom in 2012 according to uk bookies :/

that's based largely on name recognition. hard to know who will emerge, because of all the new faces in the GOP now. but i still stick with what i said.

The same friend who covered Tallahassee said Rubio's speech (his equivalent of Reagan's The Speech) about living in a Land of Opportunity as the son of political exiles was moving exactly once. He now says he's heard it 500 times.

yeah, i think you may be overstating rubio's eloquence and smarts. i still think he's largely an empty suit. but he's a handsome empty suit, who looks like the kind of figure the GOP likes. and being hispanic will help him with the GOP (there you're totally right; that's largely why they dream of him as "their obama").

I didn't overstate it at all! I thought Obama was a pretty empty suit in 2007, but one which said a few things I liked.

In other words, I'll call anyone who claims to genuinely like Sarah Palin a dumb ass, but Marco Rubio's appeal isn't strange to me at all.

My admiration for Barack Obama in 2007 was literary, after reading his first book and noting how crisply and thoughtfully he could discuss his past.

depends on what you mean by "empty suit," i suppose. obama was very bright and articulate (to me, much moreso than rubio; but rubio is slick and telegenic enough).

i have relatives who are "fans" of hers on facebook and i don't really feel like debating anyone about it, b/c man do people ever get rabid in their defense of her. maybe because they see themselves in her, or imagine they do? they never really ask themselves if they would also be legitimate candidates for the presidency, though i'm almost afraid to find out how many of them would answer that question with a "yes."

honestly, i hope she and/or tom tancredo run, and force the tea-party wing to turn on rubio and/or rick perry, both of whom are "soft" on immigration.

Stupid-and-proud-of-it white folks may seem like a huge demographic but... large enough to elect a President?
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