curren$y (or currensy i guess) - pilot talk

thanx for the heads up

Love Pilot Talk 2.

got pilot talk 2 today and it is DOING IT for me. man I love this.

im into dis

Pilot Talk 2 >>>>> the first. I can't stop listening. The tracks are so much denser and slower, and Curren$y sounds totally comfortable kicking it.

gotta go out and get this today

yeah this shit is dope

i love "montreaux"

and the guitar on "A Gee."

"montreaux" reminds me of "The Caves of Altamira" kinda

I listened to this album three or four times straight the other night.

The second one is much better and it's it a lot to doneith Michael knight

yeah ive been saying this guys ... on the 1st one he was just a sleepy stoner, i was really confused about why ppl were so into it. this one hes back on the artful rap style that he does best

OG (The Jam) is like someone gave him a big cup of coffee

that's the best song on here, changed my mind

the beat on that flight briefing track is kinda absurd to hear in 2010

it's always so jarring when iTunes hops from Curren$y to Current 93- this has happened many times and it's just . . . whoah

i was really confused about why ppl were so into it.

I'd never heard of him before Pilot Talk, so.

deej when I'm making this active effort to not be on your ass all day "I've been saying this" on the day an album comes out is practically irresistible bait

'i told you so' was that curren$y was much better than pilot talk let on, based on his earlier mixtapes, which i mentioned/discussed upthread. ppl who included the 1st on one best-of lists are chumps imo -- subpar

also 'i told u so' is kind of basic-level deej persona ish

keep it classy

Never heard the mixtape, liked the first album a lot, love this one; the second album illuminates the first, actually.

you should hear the mixtapes, which are more albums than mixtapes anyway

will do

the second album illuminates the first, actually.

― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, November 24, 2010 1:22 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

how do u mean this? curious

I'm still working through PT2, understand, but without it I listened to PT1 for months as a series of discrete moments, rarely getting a sense of who Curren$y was.

i can see how that would happen -- esp if by 'who he is' you mean ... how he is about his art? kind of?

can't wait to hear pilot talk 2 (it's in the mail) -- really dug the first one

i dont think deej is the only one to prefer the mixtapes to pilot talk? seems a pretty common opinion

i like both pilot talks a lot. he def sounds 100x more alert on this one. nice counterweight imo.

also 'i told u so' is kind of basic-level deej persona ish

― challop and a muff (deej), Wednesday, November 24, 2010 1:18 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

because you've constructed a 'persona' for yourself doesn't make it less annoying fwiw

is it really all that 'constructed' -- u just mean 'because im self-aware about it'

either way, *shrugs*

deej what people are trying to tell you is that "I told you so" is a shitty look that you might make an actual effort to outgrow & rise above instead of feeling like getting so say it is life's #1 sweetest reward

sorry to have to be bein' a dick to u again but for real yo, everybody on the fuckin planet hates dudes who come w/"I was here first, I heard it first, how great that you now know what I knew all along"

like EVERYBODY....HATES that

I say that w/love though u won't believe it but just consider me your dashingly attractive grandfather who once saw Duke play or w/e

deej is otm about his mixtapes being way better than pilot talk tho

lol that is what's frustrating about deej, he actually knows his shit & is often right, and then he ruins being the guy who's right by standing on the corner w/a big sign that says DEEJ WAS RIGHT, RECOGNIZE

hahaha

is it really all that 'constructed' -- u just mean 'because im self-aware about it'

everyone enjoys being right & everyone is self-aware about that fact -- you're not the kanye of ilx

and anyway i'm not sure what you're claiming to be right about

anyway anyway i have yet to hear this record -- i dig curren$y in doses & when the production is juuuuuuust right, which i don't think it was that often on pilot talk -- didn't think it was lush enough all the way thru -- either way i like his style tons in theory, usually less in practice over the length of a full album

to my ears this splits the diff between lush & spare -- my expertise in the genre is at best dated but having said that there's a little bit of old west-coast crawl in this as I hear it, something v. understated & groovy. I listened to the whole album twice today with varying levels of attention & much, much pleasure, texting friends "fuckin A go hear the new curen$y" etc -- it just snapped for me, and I'm pretty out-of-touch rap-wise, listen to anything on stones throw & don't really hear much else so take that fwiw

listened to pilot talk 1 while i went to pick up 2--1 still owns imo, smoove beats all over the gd place

i think the real problem w/ the first pilot talk was that his rapping on it felt lazy, which was like, all you got out of it was this stoner-persona, the lilt of his vocals, & some nice if mis-matched production from ski. Also, guest stars with Respected Rap Pedigrees like jay electronica & mos def spitting guest verses. Anyone introduced to him through this record would have to feel underwhelmed

I think a problem that ive dealt with w/ curren$y & gucci & other rappers -- and something i tried to hammer home in the last line of my last gucci review -- is that saying 'the mixtapes were better' is not the kind of strategic 'i was down when he was underground' type positioning that it used to be. that 'the mixtapes' now are the catalog, and anyone engaging with rap seriously should know 'the mixtapes.' no one should be 'waiting around for the album.' it just doesnt make sense. these 'mixtapes' are straight-up full albums.

curren$y's mixtapes -- and pilot talk 2 sounds more like them than it does the first pt -- are great because they focused on a specific laid back vibe (which the first pt only occasionally glanced on, inexplicably) that created a sorta blank, relaxed platform for curren$y to spin some really interestingly-constructed lyrics. Like Gucci, his subject matter is fairly narrow; what's interesting is how deftly he weaves each individual word, sculpting verses that fold in on themselves like some kind of rapping origami crane. Its something that just sluices by you at first, but rewards repeat listens, these little intricacies that aren't used to make a 'point,' that aren't functional, they just exist as pieces of art on their own, each one with its own physical shape or something. The interesting parts are how each verse is constructed, theres a real beauty to the way each rhyme interacts on an individual line. its not 'deep,' its just art

shinobi how i kick it / american ninja major motion picture flippin my remote / same way i do them hoes / but she already know before she touch my chevy door / real n**** let me make it as clear as my windows / no squares shall enter in the circle of winners / no im prepared for whatev if you know what i been through / rear view clear vision memories of paid dues

have rosé, chandon, oj in my glass / mimosa testerossa program cold ??? curriculum / doors open like a pendulum, swingin / rockin my jetset emblems / foolish to serve ilke Wimbledon / interior cinnamon / the car that im sittin in / calm my bad nerves, i call her my ritalin

are ppl really spending the same amount of money on the mixtapes that they are on the albums? that is the key q that tells you whether the artist takes the mixtapes as seriously as he takes the albums. of course that's auteurism -- you can say, how seriously the artist takes it doesn't matter -- but I'm not persuaded that the inverse of auteurism is as triumphant as its proponents tend to think

is that saying 'the mixtapes were better' is not the kind of strategic 'i was down when he was underground' type positioning that it used to be. that 'the mixtapes' now are the catalog, and anyone engaging with rap seriously should know 'the mixtapes.' no one should be 'waiting around for the album.' it just doesnt make sense. these 'mixtapes' are straight-up full albums.

admittedly this is a problem for me and the reason that i can't pay 100% attention to rap--i really don't listen to much music that i can't get a physical release of.

thing is, with the major label system as fucked as it is, barely releasing any major label rap albums at all, the mixtape circuit is often the ONLY outlet a lot of rappers have to release material until they have an established fanbase that the labels can exploit. unless someone has a breakout hit, it usually takes YEARS for this to happen, and often times by the time a major comes calling, they've already released their best work.

^^^ yeah how many major label rap LPs even exist this year? kanye, waka, gucci, drake, cudi, minaj ....?

ross