The Cars - C or D/S&D

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I know little about The Cars but, FWIT, Air seem to rate them (+ Suicide)

***DJ Set - AIR***
Suicide - 'Ghost Rider' (Blast First)
John Carpenter - 'Assault On Precinct 13' (Record Makers)
Air - 'Another Day' (Virgin)
Missy Elliot - 'She's A Bitch' (East West)
The Cars - 'Heartbreak City' (Elektra)
Pheonix - 'Everything Is Everywhere' (Virgin)
Johnny Cash - 'Desperado' (American)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/dance/breezeblock/tracklistings.shtml

stevo (stevo), Friday, 30 January 2004 11:14 (twenty years ago) link

Classic, for "My Best Friend's Girl" alone.

Ric Ocasek produced Weezer's Blue and Green albums, and maybe Maladroit, I'm not sure. They did Pinkerton themselves (so Rivers then), and you can tell.

Nick H (Nick H), Friday, 30 January 2004 12:43 (twenty years ago) link

Wouldn't call the synthpop, but certainly classic. Their debut and "Heartbeat City" are the natural places to start, but the rest of their output has its moments too.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 30 January 2004 14:04 (twenty years ago) link

On the basis of their first 3 LPs alone, classic. But you can't deny that a lot of their greatness (and success) was due to Roy Thomas Baker's production.

Myonga Von Bontee, Friday, 30 January 2004 22:31 (twenty years ago) link

I was just listening to that Air breezblock mix this morning - I've never like "Heartbeat City" more. It was perfectly eerie and forlorn.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 30 January 2004 22:38 (twenty years ago) link

nine months pass...
there are moments when i think that the cars are one of the more unjustly neglected new wave acts out there. if anything, i think that they're due for a re-evaluation by the corny indie fuXors community any day now.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 15 November 2004 06:23 (nineteen years ago) link

eisbar have you ever heard "stacy's mom"?

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 15 November 2004 06:32 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, i have ... i am outta step w/ things, as usual then!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 15 November 2004 06:42 (nineteen years ago) link

RJD2 just released a sorta-remix of "Through the Walls" where he gets RIC OCASEK~ to sing vocals. It SO FUCKING WORKS X1000

MC Transmaniacon (natepatrin), Monday, 15 November 2004 06:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Synth-pop pioneers or a dollar store Talking Heads? YOU make the call!

-- Nate Patrin (natepatrin550...), May 19th, 2002 9:00 PM. (link)

I clicked on this thread just now because I thought it read "The Czars" because I've been listening to the off and on today. Needless to say, I was quite confused by Nate's synopsis.

D'oh!

C all the way.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 15 November 2004 06:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha, I forgot I started this thread! Over TWO YEARS AGO. So old.

MC Transmaniacon (natepatrin), Monday, 15 November 2004 06:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic! Moving in Stereo! My Best Friend's Girl! That first album is fucking gold, one of the few debut albums where every single song is great.

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 15 November 2004 07:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Something to be said about splitting the difference between AOR and New Wave. Perfect band for non-punkists who like punk!

miccio (miccio), Monday, 15 November 2004 08:21 (nineteen years ago) link

And I prefer the debut to Candy-O but its possible I haven't given it (either!) the time it deserves.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 15 November 2004 08:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic. Later albums originally seemed a disappointment after first one because not new wave enough, but still had plenty of great singles. How many other bands can you still name all five members of after 20 plus years?

I once read an interview where it was revealed that the guitar hook in "My Best Friend's Girl" was borrowed from a Beatles song. Guess which.

Henry A Blacktune, Monday, 15 November 2004 08:28 (nineteen years ago) link

If you are so inclined, google up their bell-bottomed pre-Cars project, called Milkwood, I think.

And here is a stupid bandname I might post on another thread:

The Rick Okaysections

Henry A Blacktune, Monday, 15 November 2004 08:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Great band. And I'd say most of their albums were great too, not only those two that are the most famous ones.

They were kind of powerpop meets Television meets Gary Numan, which was a cool mixture.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 15 November 2004 13:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Sometimes I think I don't like Heartbeat City so much just because it was such a huge radio hit, and it was just driven into the ground through repetition. Then I remember the songs and how catchy they were and I realize I still like it.

I have the sentimental favourite thing going on for Shake It Up. It was the first one I realy listened to. Growing up in a small town, didn't get to hear much of the first three albums at all on the radio, because it was fairly conservative. Anyhow, thay played the title track, and then I got the album and discovered that a lot of the rest of the album was kinda dark. But really, in retrospect, the first two are untouchable.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 15 November 2004 14:09 (nineteen years ago) link

I once read an interview where it was revealed that the guitar hook in "My Best Friend's Girl" was borrowed from a Beatles song. Guess which.

Hmmm...I don't think it's "Drive My Car" :) "Twist & Shout?" (Altho that's more accurately an Isley Brothers song.)

Personally, I like The Cars' first 3 LPs ('specially the overlooked Panorama) and very little after that. And my favourite tracks are the weird ones that rarely get airplay, like "Down Boys" and "I'm In Touch With Your World".

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 15 November 2004 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link

it's kind of like the guitar in "everybody's trying to be my baby" which also isn't really a beatles song, I guess, but I never really heard the original

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 15 November 2004 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Utterly classic. Debut is perfect.

This thread shouldn't even exist.

cdwill, Monday, 15 November 2004 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link

You mean the guitar hook that Easton plays in between verses on "My Best Friend's Girl?" The little rockabilly thing? That's straight out of "I Will," off the White Album.

Anywho, my favorite Cars track has always been "Since You're Gone." All in all, though, classic.

Phil Dennison (Phil D.), Monday, 15 November 2004 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link

You mean the guitar hook that Easton plays in between verses on "My Best Friend's Girl?" The little rockabilly thing? That's straight out of "I Will," off the White Album.

Shit, I never realized that! And you can bet that the "I Will" one was lifted from some Carl Perkins record, too!

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Easton's solo record on Elektra was great, too.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 05:02 (nineteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
Weirdest reunion rumor ever...

Ric Ocasek is managed by Elliot Roberts, but his office would confirm only that Ocasek will release another solo album in September and that he would not be part of any Cars tour if it happened. Further inquiries were referred to Kovac.

Now, this is where the story gets really interesting. Since Ocasek won't do the tour, Easton and Hawkes have apparently recruited an old friend to step into his shoes.

Todd Rundgren is reportedly set to sing most of the lead vocals previously handled by Ocasek and Orr. Anyone familiar with Rundgren's talents as a musical chameleon would easily understand how the Runt could make it work.

Though I'd rather have The Cars be Rundgren's backing band.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 9 September 2005 03:14 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
been on a new CARS kick lately. with ric ocasek's new solo album out, reunion rumours swirling and "just what i needed" doin the peddlin for 'circuit city' it seems to be the perfect time to put on the skinny tie, shades and tap them syndrums.

http://dreamvalley-mlp.com/cars/graphics/davidrum.jpg

http://www.creemmagazine.com/ProfilesImages/Cars_1979_02.jpg


ZionTrain (ZionTrain), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:03 (eighteen years ago) link

1st two albums=TOTAL FUCKIN CLASSIC.
everything else, not so much, if at all...

the cars=the bluieprint for just about any 'retro 80's band' today
see also- the killers, et all.

eedd, Friday, 14 October 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I've been listening to Panorama a lot this week. Such a great great album...

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link

just heard "Drive" on the radio, utter classic. The singles run these guys had from '78 - '87 is probably among the ten greatest chart runs in pop history. Did they falter once?

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I like the first one a lot (one of my all-time best $1 CD bin finds) - need to get the second.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

if anyone has the debut and does not have the follow-up, candy-o..

SHAME SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ZionTrain (ZionTrain), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

[Roy Thomas Baker interview]

Confounded (Confounded), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:50 (eighteen years ago) link

The singles run these guys had from '78 - '87 is probably among the ten greatest chart runs in pop history. Did they falter once?

For the sake of argument:

Gimme Some Slack / Don't Go to Pieces (Elektra 47101; January 5, 1981)

rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link

"You Are The Girl" was their only single that i thought was really bad. To use a way overused idiom, they ran out of gas!

ZionTrain (ZionTrain), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I like "You Are The Girl," actually. Better than "Hello Again."

But Ric Ocasek was releasing better solo singles at the time.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 14 October 2005 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link

"Gimme Some Slack" isn't bad. It strikes me as an attempt by Ocasek and Co. to do "Emotional Rescue" vintage Stones -- something like "She's So Cold." Of course, "Panorama" hit the racks just two months after "Emotional Rescue," so I suspect that the similiarity is more coincidental.

John Fredland (jfredland), Saturday, 15 October 2005 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link

So very classic! "Just What I Needed" = perfect song.

strom (strom), Saturday, 15 October 2005 00:16 (eighteen years ago) link

"Touch and Go" deserved to chart a lot higher than #39...

William Paper Scissors (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 15 October 2005 01:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I am rather surprised by the Panoramalove, as I got it for $3 a few mths ago and was mighty disappointed. It was the sound of an AOR band imitating 154-era Wire.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 15 October 2005 01:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't hear "Panorama" until a couple of years ago, but many of its songs have emerged as my favorites. I remember that one poster (dave q, I think) made some good points on a thread once about the autobiographical aspects of "Misfit Kid" and "Down Boys."

John Fredland (jfredland), Saturday, 15 October 2005 11:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't say I have any real firsthand knowledge with Cars ALBUMS, but I heard the title track of "Candy-O" recently and just loved it. I've always loved the way Benjamin Orr's voice sounds.

Actually though - I did have Heartbeat City a long time ago. I forgot about that.

Bimble The Nimble, Jumped Over A Thimble! (Bimble...), Sunday, 16 October 2005 02:58 (eighteen years ago) link

> I've always loved the way Benjamin Orr's voice sounds.

Me too. And there aren't many vocalists who could have delivered such perfectly-judged performances to a pair of songs as stylistically diverse as Just What I Needed and Drive. Props to Ocasek too, for having humility enough to hand over his two finest compositions to another guy to sing.

Palomino (Palomino), Sunday, 16 October 2005 03:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Whoa, Orr sang "Just What I Needed"? Now how come I never picked up on that before...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 16 October 2005 03:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Orr's solo hit, "Stay The Night" - a "Drive" manque.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 16 October 2005 12:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Didn't Orr also sing "Let's Go"?

Keith C (lync0), Sunday, 16 October 2005 13:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Yup. He sang "Moving in Stereo," "Just What I Needed," "Let's Go," "Candy-O," "You're All I've Got Tonight," "It's All I Can Do," among others.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 16 October 2005 13:45 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

That Milkwood album is so weird. I keep listening to it and wondering how it's possible that you can't hear one single atom of similarity between it and anything the Cars ever did.

dlp9001, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:15 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

DRIVE = fucking amazing. anyone who thinks otherwise is flat out insane.

piscesx, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link

What is that song about, anyway?

Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I think "Drive" is my favorite song of theirs (fwiw I only know the singles).

The Ten Things I Hate About Commandments (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

"Touch and Go" is an interesting one for making a case about the Cars being '50s-oriented. Not sure hear it in them too much overall.

timellison, Thursday, 19 September 2019 01:10 (four years ago) link

have you heard perhaps an obscure little track titled "my best friend's girl"?

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 19 September 2019 01:43 (four years ago) link

man i love efd as a person and dj and baseball fan but less so as a radio voice/interviewer

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 September 2019 01:43 (four years ago) link

Haha, but I'm not sure which '50s artists "My Best Friend's Girl" is supposed to sound like. Kind of hear female singing group style in the background vocals; that's about the best I can come up with (and yeah that's a '50s style lead guitar lick, but that doesn't mean that the song sounds like Carl Perkins).

timellison, Thursday, 19 September 2019 01:51 (four years ago) link

Really cool that Evan and Annie got to talking about the Stratford 4 and how Ric helped them get the rights to the album back -- here's the Bandcamp page for the album:

https://thestratford4.bandcamp.com/album/keep-your-crazy-head-on-straight

And Annie in her piece linked to/quoted from my piece that I did with them back in 2015 where they talk about Ric's help some more:

http://www.sfweekly.com/music/the-stratford-4-reunite-at-rickshaw-stop-tonight/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 September 2019 01:53 (four years ago) link

“My Best Friends Girl” reminds me of “Peggy Sue” played at 0.75 speed.

They generally take those 50s melodies and slow them to a strut- the hiccups and yelps become gulps and coos.

bendy, Thursday, 19 September 2019 02:01 (four years ago) link

Early Cars feels so 50s in the literal words and subjects (CARS, rock and roll, my girl or someone else's girl or some girl who just showed up). Compare them to, say, Devo or Journey on either end of the classic-rock spectrum and they're more retro in the lyrics and chords, but then made new.

... (Eazy), Thursday, 19 September 2019 02:03 (four years ago) link

Haha, but I'm not sure which '50s artists "My Best Friend's Girl" is supposed to sound like. Kind of hear female singing group style in the background vocals; that's about the best I can come up with (and yeah that's a '50s style lead guitar lick, but that doesn't mean that the song sounds like Carl Perkins).

You mean to say you don’t know where he copped that lead guitar lick from?

Our Borad Could Be Your Trife (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 19 September 2019 02:15 (four years ago) link

(Hint: it was played by a well known Carl Perkins disciple)

Our Borad Could Be Your Trife (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 19 September 2019 02:15 (four years ago) link

I mean to say, James Redd, that the song doesn't really sound like a Carl Perkins song. (In fact...that is what I did say!)

timellison, Thursday, 19 September 2019 02:22 (four years ago) link

Was it played by Carl Ramone?

timellison, Thursday, 19 September 2019 02:23 (four years ago) link

name rings a bel... didn’t he play on “let the good times roll” (1956)?

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 19 September 2019 03:36 (four years ago) link

Sorry to doubt you, Tim, you are correct.

Our Borad Could Be Your Trife (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 19 September 2019 09:48 (four years ago) link

They generally take those 50s melodies and slow them to a strut- the hiccups and yelps become gulps and coos.

This is so key to cars magic! That delicious andante tempo with the leathery palm muted rhythm guitars like walking shoes

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 19 September 2019 12:16 (four years ago) link

I did a deep dive into Foghat albums earlier this year, and came away really loving Zig Zag Walk, their "new wave sellout" and final release before breaking up. I hear quite a bit of Cars in this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O38S85pKmtM&list=OLAK5uy_lfXu8zvdq2o8QbdYRcy8mNUw1EOqKwksw&index=2

confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 19 September 2019 14:17 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1o1wgxOKdw

confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 19 September 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link

Reading the Ric Ocasek wiki page today has led me to the point where I'm now streaming the 1973 album by Milkwood.

I'm not quite sure which songs are sung by Ocasek and which are sung by Benjamin Orr, but my brain is completely unable to reconcile that either of these guys were ever in the Cars. It's roughly akin to Spinal Tap having an early single called "Listen to the Flower People".

Here's the first verse from Lincoln Park:

Old men playing cards
Smiling, they speak in foreign words
And every day at three
They sit and play like children after school
Oh ain’t that cool
And they lived here all their lives in Lincoln Park

enochroot, Thursday, 19 September 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link

that's Ben on that tune…

veronica moser, Thursday, 19 September 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link

man it's truly weird to hear Ocasek sing Seals and Croft shit…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr1tiAmOJqo

veronica moser, Thursday, 19 September 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link

Mustache is even weirder.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 September 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Paulina remembers and reflects:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/paulina-porizkova-ric-ocasek-894349/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 October 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link

It's somewhat improbable, but I was aware of the Dead Kennedys before The Cars and when I first saw Ocasek I thought he looked a lot like East Bay Ray.

Ray himself posted a fun note on his Instagram: "RIP Ric Ocasek. Back in the day, I walked into E.U. Wurlitzer Music in Boston and low and behold there he was. We both did a double take, we look like like brothers, and we had a lovely chat"

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 5 October 2019 03:29 (four years ago) link

Thanks, that’s a good story. That Paulina peace is incredible from beginning to end. This part is charming:
Our oldest, Jonathan, was in preschool, and his teacher came up to me after school and said, “We had a meeting in the morning, and we were all talking about what everyone’s parents did. They said, ‘My father’s a doctor’ and things like that.” Jonathan’s answer was, “My dad goes into the basement and my mom sits in the trailer.”

Three Borads and the HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 5 October 2019 10:19 (four years ago) link

Yeah great piece. Would love to hear the recent Ocasek tracks that she was so excited about

Vinnie, Saturday, 5 October 2019 13:24 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Paulina's out.

Bye bye, love.

Late Cars’ singer Ric Ocasek cut his estranged, supermodel wife out of his will, claiming that she “abandoned” him, the now-public document reveals.

“I have made no provision for my wife Paulina Porizkova (“Paulina”) as we are in the process of divorcing,” the new-wave icon wrote in his last wishes.

“Even if I should die before our divorce is final … Paulina is not entitled to any elective share … because she has abandoned me.”

Porizkova was the one who found her estranged rocker husband’s body in September, while bringing him coffee as he recovered from a recent surgery in his Gramercy Park townhouse.

The money, as usual, fascinates me:

A filing listed with Ocasek’s will show that his assets include $5 million in “copyrights” — but just $100,000 in “tangible personal property” and $15,000 in cash.

The document doesn’t break down what constitutes the “copyrights” assets.

While $5.115 million may seem on the low-end for a rock-legend such as Ocasek, a Trusts and Estates lawyer who examined the document told The Post the Cars’ frontman likely had money stashed away in other trusts.

Like many high-profile deceased stars, Ocasek could have stored away “many millions of dollars worth of assets.”

“That’s the reason people use trusts: to protect their privacy,” the lawyer noted.

I've long speculated this guy was worth, like, $20 million on royalties and sales alone. It's not like he blew it on big houses, drugs, or sports cars.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 November 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link

Weren't they selling his Gramercy home for like $13 million?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 November 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link

To echo the guy quoted in the article, the couple probably would have had their jointly owned property in a Trust.

quinn morgendorffer stan account (morrisp), Friday, 8 November 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

Yeah, the probate inventory shows the probate estate. Anything he put in trust during his life would not appear on that inventory.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 13 November 2023 23:06 (five months ago) link

And by the way, stone fuckin' classic, at least through Shake it Up.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 13 November 2023 23:07 (five months ago) link


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