Bill Hicks C or D

Dud:
1) Goatboy
2) Marblehead Johnson
3) Tool fans claiming him for their own.
4) Dennis Leary gaining a shitload of fame and money for doing a diluted version of the exact same schtick.

CBS is advertising that Friday night's Letterman show will have the never-seen Hicks footage that was cut. Dunno if it's all of it or what.

Apparently it's the whole routine.

there wasn't really that much to it- just the pro-lifers routine?

i always thought his routines were better written than delivered- his habit of talking down to an audience didn't appeal to me at all in the DVD i managed to catch.

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i always thought his routines were better written than delivered-

Yes. He was clearly a smart guy, but I have a problem with any comedian who thinks they're enlightening us with the truth. That whole "I'm going to wake you sheep up to the way things really are" attitude is not my cup of tea. I'd prefer a good fart joke any day.

i miss fritz

I wonder if mark s would like Rescue Me

I've always been fascinated by the whole "Denis Leary stole Bill Hicks' act" meme. I personally think that for someone as legendary as Hicks, he hasn't dated well at all.

Yeah, I'm not sure who stole from who. But I never had any use for what Hicks I've heard/seen; just seemed like dumb stoner humor to me. And Rescue Me is one of my favorite TV shows of the decade. (Liked Leary's Lock N Load album from 1997 okay, too.)

i really wish The Job had stuck around for a few seasons, tho i hear Rescue Me is pretty similar

I like Bill Hicks well enough tho I wish he didn't blow into the microphone. His fawningest fans seem to be very hateful and misanthropic people. I do quote him, tho: "Whatchoo READIN for?" Which I say to my dog a lot.

I wish I had not known so many hateful and misanthropic stoners in my life.

Classic bits:

1. "Mummy, I woke up today and there was a lincoln log in me sock drawer." "That's the story of Jesus."
2. his mom finds his porno collection after he dies
3. "Whatchoo readin' for?" "I've never been asked that. God dangit you stumped me."
4. "What's G-12 do, Tommy?"
5. His mom on a car trip, talking incessantly about people's swelling tumors, then offering him a plum.

There's more. I can see him getting a little dated (but jeez, have you tried listening to Lenny Bruce lately?), and a lot of his stuff is based on loving/hating the south, and maybe you had to be there for a lot of that. But he's very funny.

xpost HA! Abbot beat me to the waffle waitress joke.

We spelled it the same, too.

We're through the scary door here.

I wish I had not known so many hateful and misanthropic stoners in my life.

Yeah, I don't get off on the hate, and I have a hard time imagining anyone hearing some of his bits and being all like "Right on!" One of my favorite quotes about Rant in E Minor is from AMG, who calls it "the comedy equivalent of a Bergman film." Shit is a long dark night of the soul. The first time I listened to that record, some friends and I decided to have a little listening party and dropped a half hit of acid. This was not a fun time. I swear about 2/3 through it, I could *see* the hate. Bill on a bad day can flat rattle ya.

Oh dear that sounds like a mistake.

Almost as bad as seeing "Your Friends and Neighbors" on a first date.

regrets, I've had a few

But then again, too few that involved acid.

But the routine began with a segment about a new TV show he was going to do called "Let's Hunt and Kill Billy Ray Cyrus."

Coincidentally, the segment came after a promo for that night's Craig Ferguson show, in which he was discussing Miley Cyrus.

http://blogs.courant.com/roger_catlin_tv_eye/2009/01/bill-hicks-on-letterman-finall.html

Observations:
1) Hicks's mom wipes off her hand after Letterman shakes it.
2) Bill Hicks/ Mark Wahlberg fite!

What was the name of the special he did that kept superimposing burning flags over him every time he'd talk about the New World Order and shit? That's the first one I saw (in a big theater full of misanthropic libertarian atheists who thought he was the motherfucking TRUTH) and it killed me. Interestingly, they all started to jeer and snicker at the end when he started talking honestly about the way to world peace. He had a lot of anger in him, but he seemed like he really loved at heart. God that sounds cheesy, but all his shit about life being a momentary illusion seemed like a big key to getting past the bile.

"Pick up the gun"
"I don't want no trouble mister I'm just here to pick up some gingham for my wife. I don't even know what gingham is."

once while i was really high i tried to pass off the whole mini-golf bit as something that had actually happened to me but all my friends were too stoned to follow the bit

"What's that tiny policeman doing in our mirror?"

But I never had any use for what Hicks I've heard/seen; just seemed like dumb stoner humor to me.

Who is this and wat did you do with xhuxk exxy's body?

THE ESSENTIAL COLLECTION TRACKLISTING

CD (DISC 1)

1. Fevered Egos

2. I’m Talking To The Women Here

3. My Favorite New Kid

4. Marketing & Advertising

5. Artistic Roll Call

6. Orange Drink

7. Save Willie

8. Menu?

9. A Killer Idea

10. Goodbye You Lizard Scum

11. Summertime

12. Elvis*

13. The News

14. Confession Time (Cops)

15. Please Do Not Disturb*

16. Spectravision & Housekeeping

17. Girl Of Your Dreams

18. Clam Lappers & Sonic The Hedgehog TM

19. What Is Pornography?

20. Renting Pornos & Girlfriends*

21. Name & Address Not Withheld*

22. Beelzebozo*

23. Pussywhipped Satan

24. I Love My Job

25. Audience Member / Old Folks Home Manager*

26. Worst Audience Ever

27. The F Word

28. My Parents

CD (DISC 2)

1. Drugs Have Done Good Things

2. Rockers Against Drugs Suck

3. We Live In A World

4. Drugs Have Done Good Things Part 2*

5. Ding Dong

6. Gays In The Military

7. Speaking Of Homosexuality

8. Children On Airplanes

9. Your Children Aren’t Special

10. Pro Life

11. Non-Smokers

12. Audience Member / Dental Assistant*

13. Smoking

14. Smoking Tastes Great*

15. Yul Brynner

16. Smoking In Heaven

17. Flying Saucer Tour

18. Burning Issues

19. Odd Beliefs

20. Kennedy & The Warren Commission

21. Handguns – UK vs. USA*

22. The Vision

DVD (DISC 3)

The Early Years – Stand Up

Houston, TX – 1981*

Houston, TX – 1984*

Indianapolis, IN – 1985*

Houston, TX (Part 1) – 1986*

Houston, TX (Part 2) – 1986*

The Early Years – TV Interview

The Outlaw Comics

Outlaw Comics Performance

Origins Of The Outlaw Comics*

Extras – Photo Gallery

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Ninja Bachelor Party

About Ninja Bachelor Party

Austin Bootleg Series

November, 1991*

December, 1992*

June, 1993*

October, 1993*

About The Austin Bootleg Series

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Lo-Fi Troubadour

Original Songs* - Written & Performed by Bill Hicks

1. Introduction

2. She’s A Woman

3. Hey Mama

4. The Road Can Be Hard

5. Jazz Instrumental

6. The Moon Is Smiling

7. Turn Your Mind Over To Your Heart

8. No Music In My Soul

9. Waiting To Meet You

10. I Never Really Cried For You

11. Outro Instrumental

* PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED

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oh new box set. if you like that guy.

liked his stuff more when i was nineteen

aren't you, like, 20 now?

Tbf nobody gives a shit about Eminem in 2019

Tbf nobody gives a shit about Eminem in 2019

There are certain ILXors who care very, very deeply about Eminem and have in fact gone so far as to write up detailed rankings of his entire catalog in the past week.

Whiney cares about Eminem in 2019 iirc

Chart stats for Eminem's last album from 2018 FYI:

Australian Albums 1
Austrian Albums 1
Belgian Albums 1
Canadian Albums 1
Czech Albums 1
Danish Albums 1
Dutch Albums 1
Finnish Albums 1
French Albums 3
German Albums 2
Greek Albums 3
Irish Albums 1
Italian Albums 1
New Zealand Albums 1
Norwegian Albums 1
Scottish Albums 1
Swedish Albums 1
Swiss Albums 1
UK Albums 1
US Billboard 200 1
US Top R&B/Hip-Hop 1

May god go with him and his loyal fans

99% of occasions where "dated" is used require the hard application of a sock o' manure to the offender

I recall that Lenny Bruce's stuff when i was a kid was considered dated as all hell and in the UK at least he was rarely if ever referenced by the new comedians, you really could not get hold of his stuff anywhere either, it just seemed to have vanished. This is just 'a thing' that happens to comedy? It's interesting how Louie is being called out for his 'jokes' about school shootings which were obviously not funny at all but old fans have said it's no different to his early stuff, yet there's a million things in say Eminem lyrics that could be similarly criticised which.. aren't being. Yet. Or not in Guardian articles or whatever.

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louis' material is attracting greater scrutiny because he's now an outed sex criminal. he used to be able to get away with edge-lord comedy because people's idea of him was that he was a nice, liberal (plenty of material paying lip-service to the existence of misogyny, inequality in his oeuvre) guy, most no longer think that, so the, very similar, material he now comes out with is demonized.

when eminem did that terrible trump rap there were articles online about how problematic eminem is and how that doesn't sit well with a makeover as a "resistance" guy

been thinking a lot about this guy lately. what was his fucking problem

pancreas problems iirc

dry squeegeed his third eye too hard

This is completely a recycled Bill Hicks bit.

World is 4000 years old. Dinosaurs were planted by god to confuse us

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Except for Carlin, of course, but that's not really fair because he was the best stand-up ever and could do about 10 other things (other than the truth-teller guise) better than anyone else.

Hicks >>> Carlin

Hicks never made “jokes” justifying wiping out endangered species.

I will poll my list of 50 worst Bill Hicks bits one day, don't think he made a joke about wiping out an endangered species but pretty sure most of them are worse than that.

Yeah but he was brave enough to speak up about how contemptible a woman is for working in a restaurant

Hicks never made “jokes” justifying wiping out endangered species. dude just whined a lot

Carlin asked where the blue food was while coked up and it's on tape

?

Admittedly Hicks deliver was usually strident but what I’ve seen of Carlin is even more overbearing.

I don’t remember the “reader” bit being misogynist, it was mostly just pointing out the anti-intellectual strain of the American heartland, especially the South, and the butt of the joke happened to be female.

I’m sure he did have some truly awful bits but again nothing I recall equivalent to “extinction lol”. Carlin is also the leading proponent of “rape is funny” iirc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l04dn8Msm-Y

His funniest bits are trying to channel Richard Pryor. I know I know, Kinnison > Hicks too, given.

Kinnison is the least funny human to ever live

he’s definitely funnier than me

ymmv wrt misogyny (helps if you ignore a shitload of evidence from his other routines) but the classism of “lol imagine working as a waitress what scum” is I think p indisputable

I was just parroting the lore on that one tbh. I usually get Kinnison and the Screaming Bob guy mixed up.

(Xpost sorry)

also I cannot forgive the kind of prick who would describe Thatcher's Britain or even post-Thatcher Britain as a "socialist nightmare".

ILX folks really take incidental asides from an extended riff personally. That was somewhere near this rant wasn’t it?

I was in Australia, and the Australians had a big contingency at the Branch Davidian compound, and I’m from Texas so they were very curious. They were asking me all about it, you know. ‘Oh, this guy’s so weird, in’t he? This guy Koresh is so weird.’ And I was thinking, well, wait a minute. Frustrated rock musician with a messianic complex, armed to the teeth, and trying to fuck everything that moves. I don’t know how to tell you this: sounds like every one of my friends in Austin. I don’t know if this is gonna be an isolated incident.

(I just read the script, didn’t listen, but I’m guessing his take on an Aussie accent is atrocious. Y’all can go ahead and chalk another demerit on the list for that one too.)

Ok I guess “demerit” is specifically American lingo too. Fuck me.

been thinking a lot about this guy lately. what was his fucking problem

― frogbs

i don't know but whatever it is a lot of cis white dudes seem to have similar problems

carlin holds up surprisingly well imo, one of these days i might do a proper rewatch of "you are all diseased". he's doing a bit... this is something released in 2000 where he's complaining about airport security. and i'm thinking, "oh no...", but he turns it into, hey, you know what the real shitty thing about airport security is? it's systemically racist. (except he's funny when he says it because he's a comedian.) he starts out saying some kind of cringey white guy edgelord shit but he keeps twisting it _against_ white guy edgelords.

even when he says stupid shit, like complaining about vaccines (which is also something he does in that special), you're never quite _sure_ if he means it because it's like... wait, he's not _actually_ suggesting that kids should swim in raw sewage because it will "toughen them up", is he? if hicks did that routine i wouldn't question for a second that he genuinely meant it.