Grant McLennan - RIP

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Shit!
Now that's a shock.
Aaron, I was at that accostic show (Pontiac?) as well, and my wife and I saw Grant a couple of years earlier in a cafe in Hamtramck. He was driving around the states in a station wagon, playing these tiny tiny venues. We ate dinner there, then he came in, pulled up a stool right next to us, and began playing. My wife was there just as my date, saying that she didn't know who the Go-Betweens were. But it seemed during the start of every second song or so, she tugged my shirt and whispered, "I know this one!"

Seemed to be a very genuine, sincere man.
....who happened to write some great songs.

RIP.

peepee (peepee), Saturday, 6 May 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesus fucking christ. Completely unexepected, and devastating news.

I just saw the Go-B's last summer and got to meet Grant a bit backstage. He looked to be in incredible shape and in good spirits.

R.I.P. Grant.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Saturday, 6 May 2006 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

truly awful shocking news. great songwriter, great band. rip.

j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 6 May 2006 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesus H. Christ, you're not kidding! :-(

Man. You know, I never saw them live or him solo, and I regret it terribly now. Had many chances too. You just think you'll eventually get the time.

The one story I have -- I interviewed him around the time Horsebreaker Star came out. Funny as hell, great times had. Towards the end I asked him about the song "Simone and Perry" and he mentioned it was about two friends of his. I offered that I had read the title thinking about Nina Simone and Lee Perry -- not being serious, just the first thing that leapt to mind. He laughed heartily and said, "That's a good idea, I might say that in the future!"

RIP. This is seriously sad.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 May 2006 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Christ, it just hit me, the writer of "Cattle and Cane" is dead.

Arrrgh.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 May 2006 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

And "Streets of Your Town."

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Saturday, 6 May 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I almost don't want to run the full list over in my mind.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 May 2006 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

So far the only info I can find is from the above mentioned Go-Betweens website. Could this be a hoax?

Wishful thinking, I know.

Jeff K (jeff k), Saturday, 6 May 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I was just relistening to 1991's Watershed, his first solo album, and the songs shine through the horrible programmed drums. He was a poetic lyricist without any of the opprobium summoned whenever the adjective is used: he weighed every line, wasn't afraid of courting absurdity or foolishness ("Just Get That Straight" has that line about running over the beloved boyfriend's with a big ol' tractor), and understood that narrative creates its own suspense and thus its own poignancy.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 6 May 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

i remember getting a copy of the friends of rachel worth in the mail and not listening to it for the looooooongest time, thinking - eh, there is no way it's gonna be as good as prime go-betweens - and i didn't want my good memories to be sullied. wrong much!! what an idiot i was. i wasted all that time not listening when i should have been celebrating. sorry, grant. never should have doubted you. it's a cliche, but you will not be forgotten. all those great songs will be spinning somewhere forever.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 6 May 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

For some reason, this is hitting me harder than losing John Lennon or Joe Strummer. Perhaps because The Beatles and to some small degree, The Clash, belonged to everyone. I know the Go-Betweens are pretty big on these boards, but in my own, tiny universe, they were MY band.
What sucks is that 99.99 percent of the music-listening world has never even heard of him. I once found myself in an e-mail correspondence with a woman from Australia, and she had never heard of the GBs.

Jim M (jmcgaw), Saturday, 6 May 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

This reminds me of the day D. Boon died. No one who listens to radio will even notice.

Jim M (jmcgaw), Saturday, 6 May 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Jim M OTFM.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Saturday, 6 May 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Scrounging turns up this Christgau piece on Horsebreaker and McLennan in general from 1995, and this bit reminded me again of that essential humor he had:

Yet in the end, as cultists know and too few others will find out, the lyrics are worth digesting. If my favorite line involves, of all things, songs--"Really loved the one about those L.A. freaks/Did it take a day to write or was it weeks?"--that's only to say he knows more about them than the competition.

So true. Like I just muttered elsewhere, it's those people who actually break through my own 'the lyrics don't matter' stance that I end up cherishing all the more because they're actually good.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 May 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

It's funny, I recently went on the GB's official message board, asking about the T-shirt Grant was wearing for the cover of "Friends of Rachel Worth." I want it sooooo bad. The response was:

"Jim, with all due respect, are you joking? Grant's a serial sartorial shocker, and there he is, alas, caught once again on 'The Friends...' Why not hunt down a Forsterish canary-yellow suit instead? I'm not sure where you'd get that shirt, sorry."

I still want that shirt.

Jim M (jmcgaw), Saturday, 6 May 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Like I just muttered elsewhere, it's those people who actually break through my own 'the lyrics don't matter' stance that I end up cherishing all the more because they're actually good

Yup. *sigh*

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 6 May 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Very sad news. I love the first Jack Frost album he made with Steve Kilbey as well. What a loss.

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Even if we ignore the lyrics, McLennan's melodic prowess was unequalled. A large part of what made his solo career a bit wearying despite considerable highpoints was that all those great hooks (over the most rudimentary of chords at times) lined up one after the other -- without Forsterian dourness -- made me yell, "Dude, stop! One at a time!" quite often.

This guy should be remembered as one of the greats, and only about 5% of music lovers recognize his achievements.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I've had my differences with Ned (I love you NED!!!!!), but I very rarely ever listen to lyrics. This guy wrote some great hooks, which I appreciate more than artichoke hearts with garlic and pasta.

4th martini coming up.

Jim M (jmcgaw), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I keep googling his name in "news" and nothing comes up. But my newspaper didn't print any news of Mile Davis' s passing either.

5th martini coming up.

Jim M (jmcgaw), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

The comments here are pretty impressive. I've never really paid much attention to the Go-Betweens, who I moments ago realized I have always conflated with Prefab Sprout for some reason. (Sorry!) I guess I should seek something out...

pleased to mitya (mitya), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Again, pleased to mitya, email me and I'll burn you some stuff. Take advantage while I'm still terribly drunk.

What a horrible fuckin' day.

Jim M (jmcgaw), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Just got a horrible text informing me of this. Brings back memories of talking to Robert Forster at a London after show party, last year or the year before, who informed us that Grant could not attend because he was 'upstairs smoking a spliff'.

An actual genius. Not many that can be said about. RIP.

Ally C (Ally C), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Did that screenplay he and Robert were working on ever get finished or produced?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think Grant was a genius, but he could write a tune that stayed in my head for days. I'll take that over a genius any day.

6th martini coming up.....

Jim M (jmcgaw), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Aaron, I was at that accostic show (Pontiac?) as well, and my wife

Yeah, Pontiac, MI at the 7th House. I remember it really vividly.

This completely sucks. Grant was what, only 48? Awful.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

No one's mentioned Robert Forster. I was always touched that when the Go-Be's broke up in '88 there was little rancor b/w the two men. When I spoke to him in February he said enough about what Grant meant to him without getting drippy:

Our relationship’s changing all the time. We’re still discovering its magnitude. Any successful relationship requires a lot of give and take. If the spotlight’s on your partner instead of you, you learn to accept it. We’ve seen famous bands where they’re all friends break up, and it’s sad. We’re passed that point, though. We’re concerned with the greater good. Certainly in the ‘80s, when we faced a lot of commercial pressure—to write hit singles and so forth—it’s a bad situation for two songwriters, and was not good for our friendship. But the peak is still there, and we’re looking for new ones.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I was just reading the interview you did for Stylus. I'll save you the embarrassment and include the link.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks, Jim. There's always P2P out there. Perhaps some of the mp3 blogs will post things on Monday.

Just out of curiosity, how big were they in Australia?

pleased to mitya (mitya), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Devastated. Now doubly glad I paid for both nights when they were in NY. 16 Lovers Lane is my favorite album of all time.

PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I've finally put my finger on what this reminds me of -- it's a bit like Octavia Butler's death, though she had a more overt history of health problems. But it was a passing too soon and when you just knew there was more to come. When Lem died, I was saddened but again, he had had a marvellously full life. With Butler and now with McLennan, I feel like I've been kicked in the gut.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 May 2006 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

geeez....just clicked on ilx to catch up after work and this smacked me like a ton of bricks.....what a terrible fucking loss.

drone/a/sore (drone/a/sore), Saturday, 6 May 2006 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

steve kilbey writes about grant mclennan in his blog.

drone/a/sore (drone/a/sore), Saturday, 6 May 2006 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

This is where Kilbey is most OTM:

grant seemed to have a way of opening up his mouth
and singing instant choruses
hed plucked outta the ether
words flew to him
he walk with melodies at his beck n call

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 6 May 2006 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Very sad. This should be big news, but alas, the Go Betweens were always that underrated gem band that no one other than critics and music freaks ever talked about.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Saturday, 6 May 2006 23:31 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,19054648-2,00.html

polyphonic (polyphonic), Saturday, 6 May 2006 23:42 (seventeen years ago) link

wow. sigh...

i somehow fanangled my way into seeing him at urbis orbis in chicago about 12 years ago now, opening for...are you ready for this?... Jewel. there was a line through the coffee shop to the door before the door opened. he played solo accoustic and put on an incredible show -- the song i most remember is "haven't i been a fool", which remains my favorite from him probably because of the performance. the crowd (geez, maybe 75?) was so respectful, hardly a whisper uttered during any of the songs. it was gorgeous.

after a standing ovation, 90% of the crowd got up to leave. i remember Jewel, who took the floor very quickly, was reduced literally begging "please don't go!"

my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Saturday, 6 May 2006 23:55 (seventeen years ago) link

This is really heartbreaking...

The Velvet Overlord (The Velvet Overlord), Sunday, 7 May 2006 00:03 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't know what to say about this at all. RIP grant, you will never be forgotten.

electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Sunday, 7 May 2006 00:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Amazing what you can find on Google -- Grant interviews Nick Cave, as it were.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 May 2006 00:25 (seventeen years ago) link

N.C : I'm like you in that I'm very interested in classic songwriting, creating songs that have a classic feel to them. I mean, I don't think either of us are really concerned about doing anything that's new, or breaking new areas of music. We're far more interested in writing purposeful and soulful and well-constructed songs, and, as you go, you get more tools to be able to do that.

G.W : Where I grew up there is an annual picnic race meeting where the people from the surrounding cattle stations come and race their horses and relax. Whenever I'm there I get asked to play some songs but I find it really difficult because I don't know any of the songs they like. If I play my own, especially the early ones, they say "do you know any with a tune?" (much laughter)

N.C : I'd love to be able to play guitar and be able to sing, to stand on the back of a truck or around the campfire and entertain people in that way. I can't do that, unfortunately.

G.W : You could if you wanted to. You used to have an old guitar in London which I wrote "Cattle and Cane" on.

N.C : So that's why I could never write anything on it.

G.W : I ruined it for you. Did I steal its only tune? I'll give you a credit next time I see my publisher.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 May 2006 00:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Radio interview with the band last year.

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 7 May 2006 00:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Agreed with everyone above. It's like hearing D. Boon died - totally unexpected, shocking in ways you wouldn't have realized, and at the expense of so many other great songs that would've come. I'm so glad I got to see Grant solo a bunch of times in NYC (once in a midtown Irish bar during happy hour!) and Grant and Robert at Maxwell's circa 1999. It seems like we're unexpectedly losing a lot of our greats lately, doesn't it?

mike a, Sunday, 7 May 2006 01:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned I have the real magazine that Cave/McLennan article is from, I'm suprised it's been transcribed there wholesale without credit! Its from GQ magazine from about 1993 or thereabouts, by my recall.

Very sad news, this.

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 7 May 2006 01:27 (seventeen years ago) link

This is so wrenching. Oceans Apart was the 2005 record I've listened to the most in 2006; it helped me a lot during some fairly dark times, pretty recently. It's the album I was hoping I'd hear from them--the one that fully convinced me of their greatness, and the one that's making me work backwards. I have to do that now, obviously.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 7 May 2006 01:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know what to say. This is impossibly sad news.

I'm so glad that I saw the G-Bs play live last year.

Bring Me The Head of ESTEBAN BUTTEZ (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Sunday, 7 May 2006 01:35 (seventeen years ago) link

This is so very sad I barely know what to say. Except that had I not read it here, tonight, I wonder how long I would have gone without ever finding out.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Sunday, 7 May 2006 01:43 (seventeen years ago) link

For what was up until I found out a lovely day, this has really all knocked me for a loop. I can't stop thinking about it, or at least, as I concentrate on other things it still comes back to me. I went for a small wander just now in my area, and I looked up into the sky without a god that's a clear blue sky. It seems just that much more empty now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 May 2006 02:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Like a ghost
A ghost of something old
It's cold and dusty in here.
It's in your hand
It sits just like a glove
The finger traces the lines of love.
It's cold and dusty in here.

-- "Dusty in Here"

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 7 May 2006 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Hard to believe it's almost been a year.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...

And now, four years.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 May 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Damn. I've currently no Go-Between or McLennan songs on my iPod.

One of my favorite ILM threads, this. Lots of good writing, fond memories.

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 May 2010 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I've currently no Go-Between or McLennan songs on my iPod.
Wha???

Jazzbo, Thursday, 6 May 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Peter Milton Walsh (he of The Apartments) posted a rather stirring tribute to Grant today:
http://rileyrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/may-6th-grant-mclennan.html

His observations on The Go-Betweens are equally fascinating:
What I liked most about them and the world of their songs, was its immaculate innocence. A childlike world, radiant with hope. Huge, huge hope. Daydream believers. In the howling chaos that seemed to be my life at the time, there was nobody like that. I’m not sure there ever had been.

doug watson, Thursday, 6 May 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

That's crazy, I broke out Before Hollywood on Thursday, and then the rest of the catalogue, first time I'd listened to them in ages. Was thinking about how sad it was to lose that talent, and I didn't even notice the significance of the date. His River of Money gets me more and more every time.

verhexen, Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:29 (thirteen years ago) link

My first thought when I saw this thread revived was that he wasn't dead anymore. :(

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Eternally missed.

Mule, Monday, 6 May 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link

will play "Dusty in Here."

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 May 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link

Aw man, that'd bring real tears. It's a strange feeling having real emotions for someone you've never met.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 6 May 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

I write these words to his tune
that he wrote on a full moon
And a river ran, and a train ran, and a dream ran
through everything that he did

Mule, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 14:42 (eight years ago) link

oh dear

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 14:44 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

10 years. Sigh.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wB0sgi5uL2w

Mule, Friday, 6 May 2016 10:49 (seven years ago) link

Memory wastes.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 May 2016 10:52 (seven years ago) link

Bigger-than-usual one of these tonight: http://www.bushhallmusic.co.uk/whats-on/events/6-may-16-this-nights-for-you-a-grant-mclennan-tribute-show-bush-hall/

(The one where Robert turned up and played some songs a couple of years ago was all-time for me.)

Tim, Friday, 6 May 2016 10:55 (seven years ago) link

I miss him, I miss this band. Going to be playing their stuff today.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 6 May 2016 14:04 (seven years ago) link

from Forster's Facebook page:

May 6, 2016. Ten years ago today Grant McLennan of The Go-Betweens passed away. A sad anniversary to mark, but necessary in so many ways, not the least because he was a great singer-songwriter and a wonderful friend. I think of him often; he is not someone who has faded - remaining close to me as he always will be, in memory and music. We knew each other for just over thirty years - for seventeen of them we were in a band, for the remainder of the time the friendship was just as important and central to us. Grant and I did a lot of talking together. Pitching ideas, making plans, swapping enthusiasms we had, and laughing. We were a force together. The sting to this day shall be strong as he died in Brisbane, The Go-Betweens were a Brisbane band, and today I shall be out in the city and tonight will sleep in it. Thinking of Grant. Warm greetings to all who read this, and have Grant firmly in their lives too. Hold on. Fond Regards. Robert.

tylerw, Friday, 6 May 2016 14:06 (seven years ago) link

Beautiful tribute

Kitchen Person, Friday, 6 May 2016 14:12 (seven years ago) link

That tribute gig looks great. Can't believe it's been 10 years.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 6 May 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link

I'm afraid to wear my Grant McLennan t-shirt anymore because I don't want it to fade.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 May 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link

Lovely piece here

https://medium.com/@RyanMaffei/gentlemanly-melancholy-7ff32d02763f#.8ssrq56xz

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 May 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Is the book ever coming out in the US?

Barkis Garvey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 03:12 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Steve Kilbey's compiled and selling 3 hours of Jack Frost performance and interview footage as a download via his Facebook. $20 bucks. Grabbing it in the morning as I imagine it'll be perfect accompaniment to early Xmas Day wine drinking and vegetating.

So, This Leaked (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 25 December 2018 06:02 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

I love this strummy alubm.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 April 2020 00:24 (three years ago) link

*album even

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 April 2020 00:24 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Fifteen years.

Robert Forster remembers:

https://www.facebook.com/robertforsterofficial/posts/202652301677146

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 May 2021 03:39 (two years ago) link

Fifteen years since I wept at the passing of someone whom I didn't know personally. I now understand that I was grieving the end of the source of so much of the music that both defined and enhanced my youth. RIP Grant. Your songs were good company.

doug watson, Thursday, 6 May 2021 10:28 (two years ago) link

Coincidentally, I just bought his double album Horsebreaker Star after looking for it for a very long time. (It's not hard to find outside of the U.S., but I wanted a reasonable price for it since the U.S.-only single-disc version goes for peanuts, and I've been told that all but one of the excised cuts aren't really missed. I still wanted the original version though.)

I didn't listen to the Go-Betweens until well after Grant passed. Love them, wish I saw Grant and Robert on-stage when I had the chance.

birdistheword, Thursday, 6 May 2021 18:12 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Happy birthday.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 12 February 2023 23:10 (one year ago) link


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